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RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why?
(06-03-2014 02:11 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  
(06-02-2014 03:41 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2014 03:25 AM)USAFMEDIC Wrote:  In the end, Texas will decide what happens with realignment, especially in regards to the Big XII, which seems to be the wildcard conference . No other Big XII school will ever depart unless the Longhorns blow up the conference in the future. OU and the rest will stay if UT stays, and Kansas probably will stay as well, as the B1G won't take Kansas State. I also believe the ACC is much more viable as a conference than other folks tend to believe. They are a network away from being really solid. Great TV markets exist on the Atlantic Coast. The potential is there and the commish seems to have his head in the game. Texas, as usual, will have their way, and the final say in this all... JMHO of course.

01-ncaabbs

OU has the same power to kill the conference, just less options on their own (due to lacking AAU and being in a state with only 4M people), and they are the least pleased school with the current B12. OU would have left for the SEC or PAC if they had taken on the OSU anchor in 2011. OU would leave for another conference in the right circumstances. They get great money for their T3 network, but not the insane numbers Texas gets. The B1G, SEC, and maybe the PAC will make similar amounts to OU, eventually, through their networks, so OU (or KU too) would not take a pay cut (or only a small one) if they left. They would love to stick with Texas, but they will do what is best for their university in the end and that might not be the same as what is best for Texas (see A&M leaving).

OU and UT can both kill the conference. KU can wound it, but not kill it outright because FB >> BB. I think OU is more likely than UT to have blood on it's hands if the B12 dies.

I think that both the ACC and B12 are solid conferences, but have flaws. The ACC has great markets, but not great penetration and Swafford really screwed them on their contract so they are stuck being underpaid for quite awhile. It is also hard for them to get a network up since they required Raycom be involved so ESPN sold a bunch of T3 stuff to them, FOX regional, and others. Raycom needs the ACC T3 stuff to survive. It has been dwindling for awhile and the ACC T3 keeps it alive. It has no incentive to sell it back. The ACC network is going nowhere until they can buy that T3 back from sellers who have no motivation to do so (Raycom would die and FOX is not helping create a network for a rival conference). The ACC needs expansion to get that network (extra content) or a change of heart by the holders of its T3 that ESPN sold. However, the ACC has a core of schools who love their conference and want it too survive and are rich enough that they might be able to wait for a decade to get paid fairly.

The B12 is has a small footprint, but great penetration of it's markets. It's FB is consistently #2 to the SEC and basketball is competitive; however, it is right in the middle of 3 stronger competitors (PAC is arguable, but safe due to geography) which makes it vulnerable. It has schools coveted by all four major conferences. It's schools are not strongly held together through mutual like as much as a money band-aid. Texas is the glue that holds it together with it's immense value. If Texas bails, or OU does which would cause UT to as well, the B12 is dead.

Since 2 or 4 conferences make the most sense (and money for schools) at least one, if not both, of these conferences is likely to come to a premature end. Probably the B12 will die, if it is only one, since money, not respect or love for the conference, holds it together, unfortunately.

jhawkmvp,
As a Kansas fan, where would you like to end up assuming that the Big 12 does die?
I don't think that Texas, Oklahoma or Kansas will have trouble finding a soft spot to land if it becomes necessary.
06-04-2014 04:04 PM
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SEC Expansion - vandiver49 - 10-11-2013, 08:43 AM
RE: If the SEC did expand - 10thMountain - 05-02-2014, 02:49 PM
RE: B12 - jhawkmvp - 05-02-2014, 11:00 PM
RE: If the SEC did expand again and did so from the Big 12 who should we take and why? - XLance - 06-04-2014 04:04 PM
RE: - Transic_nyc - 11-04-2014, 02:34 AM
schools making profits - jhawkmvp - 11-12-2014, 12:32 AM
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