(09-17-2020 11:09 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 10:18 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 09:55 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 07:53 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-17-2020 07:38 AM)orangefan Wrote:  The P12 has no more external excuses not to play.

I don't think the PAC is looking for excuses not to play. Now that the the B1G has abandoned them they are rushing around looking for ways to play as soon as possible while trying to save face about the reasoning.

The only issue is "can they find a way to start by the last week of October" as that is basically the drop-dead time for being able to considered for the CFP.

https://pac-12.com/article/2020/09/03/pa...ive-quidel

The Pac-12 announced a testing agreement two weeks ago that would allow for daily testing at all campuses. The Big Ten, in their announcement, indicated that daily testing was the key to starting up football. The NFL is playing because of daily testing and strict protocols, at a cost of $75 million.

You can play football if you can test daily and you have the resources to pay for the testing. This was never about "external issues." This was always about decreasing the risk of catching and spreading the infection. The Big Ten and the Pac-12 have been communicating, so the Pac-12 was not abandoned. It was just about timing and getting through the air quality issues caused by the fires. Once the medical protocols are in place, they just need to come up with a revised schedule and they should be good to go in late October.

The B1G and PAC were communicating, but obviously not coordinating, or else they would have made a joint announcement. So i think my "abandonment" term is accurate. The B1G is going ahead regardless of what the PAC decides.

And of course it's about external issues, because the PAC doesn't participate in football in a vacuum. What the other P conferences do surely matters.

LOL! I think your definition of abandonment is different than mine. Obviously, the two conferences are in different states with different requirements. The west coast has the worst air quality in the world at the moment due to the fires, so that has not helped. Larry Scott did indicate months ago that he did not want the Pac-12 sitting out while everyone else was playing. That makes sense, especially for recruiting in all sports. The Pac-12 was always coming back, it was just a question of when. The testing agreement reached two weeks ago with Quidel Corporation just made it possible for that to happen in October.

I will give the PAC and Larry Scott credit for one thing - they were at least unified in the decision to cancel, thus avoided the epic shite-show that enveloped the B1G. Maybe the one good thing Scott has managed to pull off.

But the B1G has been the PAC's daddy in all of this. In July, the PAC announced *after the B1G* that it would begin football on September 26. Then on August 11 the PAC announced *after the B1G* that it was canceling fall football. And now, after the B1G says it is coming back in late October, suddenly we get a flurry of messages from the PAC indicating they are doing their darndest to do the same or something similar.

So the IMO the PAC has been a follower of the B1G here, never has been acting strictly its own time-line, doing only what it wants to do based on its own medical advice, etc., to the contrary it has been following the B1G leader.