(04-25-2021 09:52 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(04-24-2021 09:29 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  Was his life not worth another 10 minutes?

False choice. I am sure that if the officers involved including Chauvin had been told that it was either a or b, they would have chosen the option that did not result in death.

It is a false narrative that police officers kill black people because they are racist, yet we hear it every time a black person is killed by a white officer. We are hearing it now about the case of the 16 year old black girl trying to stab a black woman.

It's not a false choice, though I realize I could have worded it better.

My point is that lacking an immediate threat of life to anyone, the officers had the benefit of 'time'. We've seen 'stand-offs' with armed persons last hours, even days or weeks... so why did we use 'force', when we had 'time'? Those WERE choices that the cops had, and in this case the choice cost not only floyd, but chauvin... quite dearly.

I agree 100% that the cop didn't intend to kill him... but he treated him like a threat... and I just don't see it.

I'm betting that if you asked Chauvin if he wishes he had simply waited for more (or different) assistance or taken a much more passive position, he would say 'yes'. The only reason he wouldn't now is because saying so would hamper his defense. I don't mean that ugly... its just the reality. If he says he wishes he had done something else, he is admitting he screwed up and there goes his defense... but I guarantee that he wishes he hadn't done something that could even be ACCUSED of contributing to this man's death.

I think everyone involved looking back on it would rather have invested the time than the millions in damage, pain, anguish, settlements, lawsuits, etc etc etc... and that WAS an option.

One important point...
Chauvin's boss is a minority who 10 years ago was a beat cop who sued the force for discrimination iirc, and he was subsequently moved to head up the IA on the force when it comes to equality, and he rose to be chief like 4 years ago... ALL under a heavily democratic administration. If EVER there was a time and place for 'internal bias' to be vetted out of the force by the left, this was it.