(07-02-2020 05:54 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  Definition of "dregs":

1 : sediment contained in a liquid or precipitated (see precipitate entry 1 sense 3a) from it : lees —usually used in pluralcoffee dregs at the bottom of the cup
2 : the most undesirable part —usually used in pluralthe dregs of society
3 : the last remaining part : vestige —usually used in pluralthe last dregs of fuel

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dreg


By "dregs," I'm not referring to sediments, but to definitions #2 and #3 above - - just the lowest ranked teams.

But then the bottom third still doesn't work, because "the MOST" would not mix together WVU, Massey 70 and Kansas, Massey 106 ... for two reasons:

First, even in that single season, there is a clear difference in quality between 70 and 106. If you are looking at "the most undesireable", and you have Kansas sitting in there as one of the examples of "the most undesirable", then WVU does not fit.

Second, if you averaged over four or five years, Kansas and Rutgers would still be down there, but the make up of the top half of the "bottom third" would see a lot of turnover.

The definition of "the MOST undesirable part" or "the LAST remaining part" is based on the meaning of the term in use, and as we normally use it, the bottom third is not "the dregs".

Quote: You're in a tenable position to complain about listing the "dregs" of the P5 in 2019 and noting that they were ranked below a good many G5 teams.

I'm complaining about the difference between what the post title advertises it is about, and what the post itself claims it is about.

It is clearly true -- not as shown by your numbers, since who knows where THAT ranking comes from, but as shown by a comment going to a reasonably credible ranking and specifying which ranking they used -- that the "dregs" of the P5 are worse than the middle of the Go5.

It is clearly untrue, as shown by the Massey rankings, that the entire bottom third of the P5 is worse than the middle of the Go5.

And when pressed on that, you shift the goalposts to the bottom third of the P5 (in a given year) being worse then the top third of the Go5 (in a given year).