(06-04-2020 12:56 AM)herdfan129 Wrote:  You guys don't know how to research facts for yourself? Of course not, just listen to the liberal media.

COVID death rate is roughly .26% according to the CDC. The seasonal flu has a death rate of around 1%. That would make the seasonal flu around 4 times more deadly than COVID.

Quote:The agency offered a "current best estimate" of 0.4 percent. The agency also gave a best estimate that 35 percent of people infected never develop symptoms. Those numbers when put together would produce an infection fatality rate of 0.26, which is lower than many of the estimates produced by scientists and modelers to date."

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The seasonal flu mortality rate is about 0.1% not 1% genius. Good grief. So, who decided it was ok to merge two pieces of data that CDC itself didn't state. I swear people will come up with whatever they want to justify a point even if it is misleading at best but in reality is just blatantly false. Having worked there, I can assure you with 99.9% surety that the 0.4 percent already takes into account the 35% of those (mostly younger, healthier) who do not get sick enough to be seen. Not only that, but I bet the one thing the study didn't take into account are those that died in the first three months that were attributed to something else because no one knew it was here yet back in Dec/Jan.

So, the most likely fact here is that COVID is four times more deadly than seasonal flu not the other way around and wouldn't surprise me if it's slightly higher than that.

That said, this "fact" doesn't really matter. Bottom line is both kill. People should get their damn flu shots, wash hands, etc., and do those things whether we're talking about COVID or influenza. The biggest difference here is no one has immunity to COVID so it makes transmission easier.

Everyone likes to make these statements that are utter BS because - and I'm just guessing here - they haven't had anyone close to them die from it yet. My wife had a good friend who was just 50 years old (not 65 or 70). She was beautiful. Absolutely stunning. She looked like she was 40. She was healthy and fit with no pre-existing conditions and it killed her a couple of weeks ago. It blows my mind how cavalier some people are about other people's lives. I've lost a lot of faith in humanity over these past couple of months.

Anyway, the one thing I see a lot of folks overlooking is that it doesn't matter if 99% of college kids aren't going to be impacted much as soon as it gets into a locker room it's going to infect an entire team. Regardless of the reality of how that can impact the rest of the university population (which all may not be young healthy stud athletes) much less the rest of the community, the point is the optics of that are going to be really, really bad. And university's are going to face both a moral and a legal dilemma. This is the main point I feel like everyone is missing and why I believe that happens before soccer or football camps break and shuts it all down. Won't have to wait much longer to find out, but given places that have started reopening (mainly in the south) are already starting to see a surge in new cases again even though it 80+ outside, I fear it is unavoidable that we may not make it to the first game. Will be interesting to watch what happens with MLB given those guys spend a lot of time in a clubhouse together. Might give us a good test case of what to expect.