(03-11-2020 01:50 PM)TribeGoldenAgeofBasketball Wrote:  

(03-10-2020 02:16 PM)Paulbintheburg Wrote:  I have been lurking around for a while and wanted to point a few things out.

-If not making the NCAA tourney is the goal, then why have a Basketball program? I think NJguy (or whatever) said the program shouldn't be judged by that, Really? So if your an account manager and garner a bunch of small accounts but miss the big one that could define you and could make you and your company tons of $$, it's ok, you shouldn't be defined by that? It is all about winning the conference and making the tournament, that is it, end of the book put it down.

-If I'm playing poker, and someone has to leave and hands me a hand that is a straight, I should by logic, come very close if not win the hand.

-There are two hoops programs at WM, one is guided by an experienced, well-respected coach, who has NCAA tourney bids on his resume, the other is not. Guess which one has a sky-high trajectory and which one doesn't?

You're missing the point here. A program is supposed to win the tournament, yes but the best way to do that is by maximizing the number of chances you have at winning the tourney. And that is through consistent excellence which this program had become accustomed to under Shaver. Basically your argument means if we beat Delaware in the championship, Shaver would stay. That's why it's a flawed argument.

Also Nate didnt have any other options here. He wouldnt have been drafted and he didnt graduate so unlike pierce and milon, he would have had to sit out a year and for someone with pro aspirations an extra year only hurts. So Samantha is just trying to join herself to a fan favorite.

This is also named perspective. And let's just look at what would have been from Samantha's eyes. If as you say all that matters is a championship...

Assume pierce and matt leave even with the staff getting fired and assume Owens still leaves because of personal problems(all tough assumptions), we still would have audige and cam brown and likely an unnamed transfer/other recruit. At a minimum, Luke audige brown vsn vliet knight. That alone likely wins the caa and gives us the perimeter threats we need. So that was worst case with Shaver staying which is still better than what we ended up with. So if championships are all that matter then why limit our chance at 1? Bc if we had won this year, it wouldnt have been Samantha's win and she couldn't have taken credit for it.