(01-11-2019 11:30 PM)ICThawk Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 02:55 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-31-2018 02:37 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  A few things about Kansas. We are a good buy currently. Our FB is at it's worst point in our history, by a long shot, and it is really hurting our revenue. KU FB has been mostly mediocre historically, beaten by the conference leaders pretty easily, but usually competitive with the middle and bottom. Basically Oklahoma State and KU were similar programs historically until the last decade or so (they got Boone/Gundy and we got a bunch of circus clowns). When we were last competitive under Mangino we sold out. No school has fans that will show up when you do as badly has we have the last 8 years. Our AD revenue last year was $95M, a few years earlier it was around $110M. If our football was competitive we would be making $125-130M currently. Get competitive and throw in a new stadium, if it gets done (and if it does we were assured of a landing spot somewhere), and our WSJ valuation will jump probably a $100M or more (which is into KSU/OSU territory).

Our last AD, Sheahon Zenger, was an imbecile and our previous chancellor did not care for sports. Our new Chancellor, Douglas Girod, is a sports fan who has been attending KU FB games for years, and he helped turn a struggling KU Med around. The new AD Long will get FB competitive again. We are paying him among the highest salaries for an AD in the country and I am pretty confident KU will pay pretty well ($4M+) to our next football coach, which along with Long's connections should allow us to land a solid coach. When KU has a solid coach we are competitive (Gottfried, Mason, Mangino).

As far as the SEC goes, I think KU and the SEC are about a perfect fit athletically. SEC FB already has more than enough good to great teams. The SEC would gain by having more easy wins on the schedule of their top schools. KU would almost certainly remain mediocre, but would get more talent on the roster, win more out of conference, and play competitively with the middle and bottom schools each year, but be an easy win for the top of the conference. In basketball, no conference would gain more by adding Kansas than the SEC. It would give you one of the top BB brands to help drive ratings/ticket sales for all your BB programs when they play Kansas, while also giving both Kansas and Kentucky a foil of the same stature. The Kentucky/KU games have been ratings gold the last few years and would give the SEC it's Duke/UNC type BB rivalry. The KU and MU rivalry would be restored.

I have said on here before my hope is KU ends up in the SEC or B1G, if the B12 dies, because those conferences have passionate fans like the B12 has and are closer geographically. The ACC is too far away and I have lived in 2 PAC states and all sports talk/attention there is mostly centered on the pros.

I noticed you reading the who should we take from the Big 12 thread the other night.

I think the perfect additions for the SEC to 16 are Texas and Kansas. I also figure this might be the best thing that could happen to Iowa State. Should the Big 10 take Oklahoma then Iowa State may make the most appealing partner if Texas and Kansas are off the board.

Iowa State / Iowa (Cyhawk) becomes an annual Big 10 rivalry. Oklahoma / Nebraska are reunited. Texas / A&M and MU / KU are reunited and both conferences move to 16 in acceptable and profitable ways.

I would be very good with that ending. I just don't know how likely it is that Kansas would want to come to the SEC. Or how likely it would be that Texas would not care to bring along another Texas school.

I also figured if Texas and Kansas came to the SEC that it might well help Oklahoma politically to separate from OSU since the SEC was the only conference likely to take both.

Thoughts?

Wonder if KU is already becoming a SEC football school with all of Les' hirings (understandably he hires those he knows and of course that is heavily SEC people)

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2019/jan/1...-senior-s/

I have to admit the thought had crossed my mind.

Maybe it won't work that way, but with Amazon making a bid on the RSN's both ESPN and FOX have incentives to make moves happen before the FAANG's can get involved and before contracts expire. That way they can lock up product, renegotiate existing contract values and sign extensions that avoid the possible intervention of the FAANGS in a few years.

There are other options out there too. Some we've not talked about, or at least not in a long long time.

Let's say hypothetically that the PAC was willing to sell a % of the PACN to ESPN or FOX or Both. And let's say they desperately needed a boost in markets.

What if Texas, Texas Tech, Kansas State, and Oklahoma State (all of which are now R1 with Texas being AAU) open up those markets. And let's say the bone to the Big 10 is Oklahoma where FOX has more of a vested interest via T3 rights is their prize. The SEC which is plenty football strong lands Kansas for hoops strength. But the price of Oklahoma for the Big 10 is Iowa State. The price of Kansas for the SEC is a presence in DFW with T.C.U. (currently R2 but getting a medical school). And lets say that West Virginia and Notre Dame go all in.

Baylor collects 9 sets of exit fees for their trouble and joins the AAC.

Now we have a P4 where everyone got something. Baylor is the odd man out (or I have another theory) and The SEC gets the presence in DFW it wanted via Oklahoma, only through an actual presence via T.C.U.. We pick up an AAU school which is worth more to us than it would be to the Big 10 (Kansas). The PAC gets the Texas market with a presence in Oklahoma and Kansas and the Big 10 gets its annual contender in the Big10 West giving and a good midtier program in Iowa State.

That's one way that we could move to a 4 x 16 a champs only playoff format, and essentially boost the ACC and PAC will giving the Big 10 and SEC a modest to decent punch.

Now as to Baylor. It's not out of the realm of possibility that Wake might choose to affiliate with the ACC for everything but football (where they would still have 5 games like N.D. does now, and Baylor a better market and sports product slips into the ACC as #16. Then everyone is accommodated.

It's not ideal, but it could work out nicely for everyone. But then that's why I doubt it happens. And if that brokering could occur prior to the expiration of contracts and GOR's it would benefit FOX and ESPN and all four conferences.

SEC:

Kansas, Missouri, T.C.U., Texas A&M

Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State

Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina


B1G:

Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers

Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue

Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin

Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Oklahoma


PAC:

Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

California, Cal Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Stanford

Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech


ACC:

Boston College, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse

Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech

Clemson, Louisville, N.C. State, West Virginia

Baylor, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami

* Wake Forest as a partial for football (5 ACC games to be played) Full member in all other sports.