(12-30-2016 02:43 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 02:17 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 12:11 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 11:06 AM)AppManDG Wrote:  

(12-30-2016 09:59 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  People have been excluded from things by elitists for a very long time. The worst strategy is to just accept the discrimination as your due.

My personal dream is that Alabama beats Ohio State to win the CFP every...single...year. I would love to see a decade of Alabama beating Ohio State to win the CFP. They system is so out of kilter, it theoretically could happen. I hope so.

You are right, no G5 team is getting in. Because it is an unfair system. It is not sports. But we need to keep putting ourselves in position to have the doors slammed in our faces.....perhaps for decades. A few decades of getting doors slammed might change things.....giving up won't.

Is it really an unfair system? Please make the case for any G5 school to be included in a 4 team playoff. Mainly taking into consideration SOS. I'm as big of an App fan as you'll find, but even if we had gone undefeated with W's over Tenn and Miami, our conf schedule still derails the case for us over the others.

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Yes, it is unfair. Here is how.

By having no chance at playoff access or National Championship.....it is better in the minds of some 4-star and 5-star athletes to go sit on a bench at Alabama and pray for playing time than it is for them to stay close to home at App State and play every down.

IF every player knew that he could get to the playoffs at FAU....or Georgia State....or Alabama....by what he and his teammates did on the field no matter what school he chose....then he might choose playing time.

Just that....all by itself.....would create more parity in college football than it has had in decades.

Would the "P5" still have advantages? Of course they would. College football is never, ever, going to be "fair". But just that....would make it POSSIBLE for the status quo to change and for ANY of our programs to be relevant through our own actions.

10 FBS conference champions and 2 or 4 wildcards....seeded by conference power rating or committee....would make this sport a real sport and give every single FBS football player a path to a National Championship. No matter how difficult....the path to the top would be clearly laid out....do this....win a title.

I think college football would grow. I think attendance would grow. I think interest would grow. I think revenue would grow. I think every game would be more meaningful. I think most of the time Alabama and Ohio State would still be King. But it would be great. Every single fan base would still have that defined path to win it all.

Personally, I hope Alabama and Ohio State play every year for the title until it gets so boring that they are forced to change the status quo and become a REAL sport.

Your argument is that we don't DESERVE a spot because we aren't as good. But we aren't as good because we don't have a spot!!!!

You are unemployable because you don't have a job. You can't go to law school because your type have never become lawyers before. You can't use the exercise room because you are fat. You can't have a playoff spot because players who want to go to the playoffs choose other schools. These are rationalizations....not valid reasons.

Except you're forgetting one thing. The P5 is generating probably 90% of the revenue for college sports. They are ALWAYS going to have the main say so. They get the big ratings, the big crowds... they are the ones that draw the eyes to the tv. They are the reason the G5 is even able to get a payout from bowl season. They're never going to look at the G5 in the same light and from that standpoint, it's kinda hard to argue with them.

Now, should everyone have a fair shot? Sure... but, until you can present the argument that you can bring as much to the table as they do for networks, stadiums, bowl committees, etc... you're not going to have much of an argument. And it's not a knock, but imagine that somehow this year the Peach Bowl ended up being Ark State and WMU. Attendance wise and viewership wise, how would that turn out vs Alabama & Washington? They hold the cards because they have the clout.. it's just the way it is. There will likely never be an FBS scenario where every conference champ is included. Why? Because there's really no way on earth that you could justify Ark State getting in over USC, Penn State, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Michigan, Oklahoma State, West Virginia or Louisville. That's how they're going to look at it. And, if anyone ever attempted to make that change, that's when the break away would happen.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There can't be any parity because there is no parity. You can't have a job because you are unemployed. Heard it a thousand times.

Oh I'm sorry....your program can't be allowed to work yourself into a position to earn as much money as Louisville because you don't earn as much money as Louisville. Tough luck...that's just how it is.

How can you justify it....SPORTS. That is how SPORTS works. People play by rules and if they accomplish what the rules say then they earn a championship. No polls....no beauty contests....no comparing of bank accounts.....no who has the highest tv ratings.....no its always been that way....just WHAT DID YOU DO ON THE FIELD.

That....is how you justify all members of a freaking sports league being treated equally in terms of opportunity for the championship of that sport.

So freaking weird that people can rationalize this ridiculous system.

Then put your school in a position to have a valid argument. Just the fact that you're FBS isn't gonna do it. Because realistically, in no way, shape or form can you really say you should be given equal ground in the playoffs as the SEC just because you're FBS. I mean realistically, teams outside of the P5 know this when they choose to be a part of FBS. You try to force your way in and they leave, then what? G5 football becomes irrelevant anyways. And you also lose your payouts.