(01-25-2022 07:08 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Why is the Big Sky on the Clock?

(01-25-2022 07:09 PM)shizzle787 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:08 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Why is the Big Sky on the Clock?

They lost Southern Utah and are now down to 10. They may not do anything but they are still on the clock as a result of the departure.

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

(01-25-2022 07:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

With BYU gone they're down to 9. Don't know that they want to return to a double round robin at only 9 or move down to 14 conference games. They'll probably add a team some time here in the next year.

(01-25-2022 07:48 PM)Midwestan Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

With BYU gone they're down to 9. Don't know that they want to return to a double round robin at only 9 or move down to 14 conference games. They'll probably add a team some time here in the next year.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Gonzaga. The WCC accommodated the Bulldogs by cutting its conference schedule from 18 to 16 games so the Zags could schedule a couple of tougher non-conference opponents to replace 2 of the weakest WCC schools. Would they be willing to join the Mountain West Conference for basketball only (similar to Hawaii being in the MWC for football)? Would the West Coast Conference be OK with them leaving for just one men's and women's sport, but staying for the rest? Gonzaga and Brigham Young were said to be in talks to join the MWC a few years ago, but the deal fell apart because many MWC schools thought BYU burned too many bridges by leaving several years earlier.

Then again, Gonzaga could stay pat. The conference could stay with 9 members, or it could expand. Seattle University would seem to be a no-brainer here, although their campus facility for hoops only holds about a thousand fans. If the WCC wanted to go to 12, it could court religious-affiliated schools like Cal Baptist and Denver too, but I don't know how much interest there is from CBU and DU to leave their respective leagues.

(01-25-2022 07:48 PM)Midwestan Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

With BYU gone they're down to 9. Don't know that they want to return to a double round robin at only 9 or move down to 14 conference games. They'll probably add a team some time here in the next year.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Gonzaga. The WCC accommodated the Bulldogs by cutting its conference schedule from 18 to 16 games so the Zags could schedule a couple of tougher non-conference opponents to replace 2 of the weakest WCC schools. Would they be willing to join the Mountain West Conference for basketball only (similar to Hawaii being in the MWC for football)? Would the West Coast Conference be OK with them leaving for just one men's and women's sport, but staying for the rest? Gonzaga and Brigham Young were said to be in talks to join the MWC a few years ago, but the deal fell apart because many MWC schools thought BYU burned too many bridges by leaving several years earlier.

Then again, Gonzaga could stay pat. The conference could stay with 9 members, or it could expand. Seattle University would seem to be a no-brainer here, although their campus facility for hoops only holds about a thousand fans. If the WCC wanted to go to 12, it could court religious-affiliated schools like Cal Baptist and Denver too, but I don't know how much interest there is from CBU and DU to leave their respective leagues.

(01-25-2022 07:25 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  The Big Sky is fine 10 schools for all sports and what, 14 for football?

Don't forget the MEAC - the MEAC is probably in the top spot or two from a priority standpoint due to their membership numbers.

(01-25-2022 07:55 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:48 PM)Midwestan Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

With BYU gone they're down to 9. Don't know that they want to return to a double round robin at only 9 or move down to 14 conference games. They'll probably add a team some time here in the next year.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Gonzaga. The WCC accommodated the Bulldogs by cutting its conference schedule from 18 to 16 games so the Zags could schedule a couple of tougher non-conference opponents to replace 2 of the weakest WCC schools. Would they be willing to join the Mountain West Conference for basketball only (similar to Hawaii being in the MWC for football)? Would the West Coast Conference be OK with them leaving for just one men's and women's sport, but staying for the rest? Gonzaga and Brigham Young were said to be in talks to join the MWC a few years ago, but the deal fell apart because many MWC schools thought BYU burned too many bridges by leaving several years earlier.

Then again, Gonzaga could stay pat. The conference could stay with 9 members, or it could expand. Seattle University would seem to be a no-brainer here, although their campus facility for hoops only holds about a thousand fans. If the WCC wanted to go to 12, it could court religious-affiliated schools like Cal Baptist and Denver too, but I don't know how much interest there is from CBU and DU to leave their respective leagues.

Have Seattle, Cal Baptist, or Denver ever made the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Tournament before? They're just an extra mouth to feed. The only benefit Seattle or Denver get is a market grab and Gonzaga probably has more fans in Seattle than the University of Seattle.

The WCC is better standing pat than adding an extra mouth to feed that doesn't add to the conference. Still think Gonzaga is better off leaving for the MWC.

(01-25-2022 07:55 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:48 PM)Midwestan Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

With BYU gone they're down to 9. Don't know that they want to return to a double round robin at only 9 or move down to 14 conference games. They'll probably add a team some time here in the next year.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Gonzaga. The WCC accommodated the Bulldogs by cutting its conference schedule from 18 to 16 games so the Zags could schedule a couple of tougher non-conference opponents to replace 2 of the weakest WCC schools. Would they be willing to join the Mountain West Conference for basketball only (similar to Hawaii being in the MWC for football)? Would the West Coast Conference be OK with them leaving for just one men's and women's sport, but staying for the rest? Gonzaga and Brigham Young were said to be in talks to join the MWC a few years ago, but the deal fell apart because many MWC schools thought BYU burned too many bridges by leaving several years earlier.

Then again, Gonzaga could stay pat. The conference could stay with 9 members, or it could expand. Seattle University would seem to be a no-brainer here, although their campus facility for hoops only holds about a thousand fans. If the WCC wanted to go to 12, it could court religious-affiliated schools like Cal Baptist and Denver too, but I don't know how much interest there is from CBU and DU to leave their respective leagues.

Have Seattle, Cal Baptist, or Denver ever made the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Tournament before? They're just an extra mouth to feed. The only benefit Seattle or Denver get is a market grab and Gonzaga probably has more fans in Seattle than the University of Seattle.

The WCC is better standing pat than adding an extra mouth to feed that doesn't add to the conference. Still think Gonzaga is better off leaving for the MWC.

(01-25-2022 07:55 PM)schmolik Wrote:  Have Seattle, Cal Baptist, or Denver ever made the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Tournament before? They're just an extra mouth to feed. The only benefit Seattle or Denver get is a market grab and Gonzaga probably has more fans in Seattle than the University of Seattle.

(01-25-2022 08:31 PM)inutech Wrote:  Why is CUSA on the clock?

We have the perfect number of schools for a football conference.

(01-25-2022 08:33 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  My thoughts on those 10 conferences:

1. WCC: no need to expand now. If Gonzaga ever leaves, then they’ll look to replace, with Seattle at the top of the list.

2. C-USA: they are good where they are right now.

3. MAAC: they are at 10 so there’s no imminent need to grow but if the right school or 2 was interested we might see some movement.

4.Big Sky: these guys are just fine. 10/12 is a nice place to be.

5. Horizon: this conference really is on the clock. Bellarmine is there’s if they want them or they can have their pick of the OVC.

6. ASUN: not sure what they are waiting on. They are short a football school and the OVC is ripe for the taking.

7. OVC: these guys need to do something soon or risk getting ripped apart.

8. Big South: time to court NC Central. If they are successful, the MEAC dies.

9. America East: this league is accustomed to operating small but 8 is a really tough place to be. I think they need to recruit a team or 2.

10. Southland: these guys are stable in that no one wants their teams. They are safe for a while but they do need to start grooming call ups to help fill their ranks.

(01-25-2022 07:58 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:55 PM)schmolik Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:48 PM)Midwestan Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:30 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(01-25-2022 07:21 PM)AuzGrams Wrote:  Why is the WCC on the clock? Is Gonzaga leaving?

With BYU gone they're down to 9. Don't know that they want to return to a double round robin at only 9 or move down to 14 conference games. They'll probably add a team some time here in the next year.

It will be interesting to see what happens to Gonzaga. The WCC accommodated the Bulldogs by cutting its conference schedule from 18 to 16 games so the Zags could schedule a couple of tougher non-conference opponents to replace 2 of the weakest WCC schools. Would they be willing to join the Mountain West Conference for basketball only (similar to Hawaii being in the MWC for football)? Would the West Coast Conference be OK with them leaving for just one men's and women's sport, but staying for the rest? Gonzaga and Brigham Young were said to be in talks to join the MWC a few years ago, but the deal fell apart because many MWC schools thought BYU burned too many bridges by leaving several years earlier.

Then again, Gonzaga could stay pat. The conference could stay with 9 members, or it could expand. Seattle University would seem to be a no-brainer here, although their campus facility for hoops only holds about a thousand fans. If the WCC wanted to go to 12, it could court religious-affiliated schools like Cal Baptist and Denver too, but I don't know how much interest there is from CBU and DU to leave their respective leagues.

Have Seattle, Cal Baptist, or Denver ever made the NCAA Division 1 Men's Basketball Tournament before? They're just an extra mouth to feed. The only benefit Seattle or Denver get is a market grab and Gonzaga probably has more fans in Seattle than the University of Seattle.

The WCC is better standing pat than adding an extra mouth to feed that doesn't add to the conference. Still think Gonzaga is better off leaving for the MWC.

Seattle went to a Final 4. Granted it was when Elgin Baylor was playing there but still...