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[split] NEW CUSA MAP - JCMiner - 12-10-2021 03:01 PM
Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - MinerInWisconsin - 12-10-2021 03:10 PM
(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Yes but not one in a big market cause you know what that would mean.
Tarleton St in Stephenville or ACU.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - Volkmar - 12-10-2021 03:17 PM
(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
At least you guys and NMSU have each other nearby. FIU is basically on an island.
If you haven't yet, look at BYU and UCF in the Big 12 map. lol
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - MinerInWisconsin - 12-10-2021 03:34 PM
(12-10-2021 03:17 PM)Volkmar Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
At least you guys and NMSU have each other nearby. FIU is basically on an island.
If you haven't yet, look at BYU and UCF in the Big 12 map. lol
That MAC map is special. It's a bus league poster child.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - Volkmar - 12-10-2021 04:25 PM
(12-10-2021 03:34 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:17 PM)Volkmar Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
At least you guys and NMSU have each other nearby. FIU is basically on an island.
If you haven't yet, look at BYU and UCF in the Big 12 map. lol
That MAC map is special. It's a bus league poster child.
Yeah, the SEC seems to have the best setup. And in the SEC, Mississippi State and Ole Miss are right in the center with pretty decent access to any of their opponents. If those two fan bases don't travel really well to other SEC venues, they have no excuse.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - GE and MTS - 12-10-2021 06:02 PM
(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - MUHERD76 - 12-10-2021 10:46 PM
(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - All4One - 12-10-2021 11:22 PM
(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
I think Tarleton would actually be a better and more competitive addition than Southwest Texas State if another Texas addition is a must. Tarleton's basketball team has looked pretty competitive even in defeat to nationally-ranked teams. I think if they moved to FBS, that they could grow what they already have now.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - Monarch Pride - 12-11-2021 12:10 AM
(12-10-2021 11:02 AM)Ewglenn Wrote: Can someone make a logo map of the new CUSA members? I would like to see a visual and cannot find one anywhere.
Texas centric - and horrible leadership. That is the map.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - Curtzilla - 12-11-2021 01:40 AM
(12-10-2021 03:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:Or Stephen F Austin(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Yes but not one in a big market cause you know what that would mean.
Tarleton St in Stephenville or ACU.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - GE and MTS - 12-11-2021 07:00 AM
(12-10-2021 10:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
It's like you stopped reading at what you bolded. Texas State is seeing their only other Texas conference member being forced out, along with another relatively nearby school while adding a bunch of east coast schools. Joining C-USA would put them in the center of the footprint with a strong southwest presence.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - MeanGreenStebo - 12-11-2021 07:04 AM
(12-10-2021 10:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
The Sun Belt is still the trailer park of conferences. If you look at each school’s acceptance rate/SAT scores/athletic budgets, the standards are generally lower than the new CUSA and significantly lower than the AAC (there are exceptions like UTEP). Nobody from the Belt was ever looked at for the AAC openings, why? Status and perception. If you think UNT got into the AAC because of a market, you have not looked at the full picture. It’s the athletic budget, the infrastructure investment, the coaches’ salary pool, all the things that show we are committed to building a real program. The Belt does way more with way less, but notice that no big schools will touch them in bowls. Back to back great seasons and the Belt can’t even get an AAC team in a bowl game this year, just MAC and CUSA. So would Texas State look at CUSA? We will have to see if the remaining/new schools decide to double down or if they keep it status quo.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - Eagle in the gym - 12-11-2021 09:08 AM
(12-11-2021 07:04 AM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:(12-10-2021 10:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
The Sun Belt is still the trailer park of conferences. If you look at each school’s acceptance rate/SAT scores/athletic budgets, the standards are generally lower than the new CUSA and significantly lower than the AAC (there are exceptions like UTEP). Nobody from the Belt was ever looked at for the AAC openings, why? Status and perception. If you think UNT got into the AAC because of a market, you have not looked at the full picture. It’s the athletic budget, the infrastructure investment, the coaches’ salary pool, all the things that show we are committed to building a real program. The Belt does way more with way less, but notice that no big schools will touch them in bowls. Back to back great seasons and the Belt can’t even get an AAC team in a bowl game this year, just MAC and CUSA. So would Texas State look at CUSA? We will have to see if the remaining/new schools decide to double down or if they keep it status quo.
Wow. Sometimes it is hard to see a true reflection of yourself.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - Saint3333 - 12-11-2021 02:32 PM
(12-11-2021 07:04 AM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:(12-10-2021 10:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
The Sun Belt is still the trailer park of conferences. If you look at each school’s acceptance rate/SAT scores/athletic budgets, the standards are generally lower than the new CUSA and significantly lower than the AAC (there are exceptions like UTEP). Nobody from the Belt was ever looked at for the AAC openings, why? Status and perception. If you think UNT got into the AAC because of a market, you have not looked at the full picture. It’s the athletic budget, the infrastructure investment, the coaches’ salary pool, all the things that show we are committed to building a real program. The Belt does way more with way less, but notice that no big schools will touch them in bowls. Back to back great seasons and the Belt can’t even get an AAC team in a bowl game this year, just MAC and CUSA. So would Texas State look at CUSA? We will have to see if the remaining/new schools decide to double down or if they keep it status quo.
When the bowls are reorganized and the mighty AAC has three tie-ins annually to the trailer park. Where will you park? Probably your couch.
You’re going to be disappointed as the AAC tie-ins look much closer to The CUSA lineup and the SBCs get better.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - GoodOwl - 12-11-2021 02:45 PM
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RE: NEW CUSA MAP - All4One - 12-11-2021 02:55 PM
(12-11-2021 02:32 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:(12-11-2021 07:04 AM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:(12-10-2021 10:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
The Sun Belt is still the trailer park of conferences. If you look at each school’s acceptance rate/SAT scores/athletic budgets, the standards are generally lower than the new CUSA and significantly lower than the AAC (there are exceptions like UTEP). Nobody from the Belt was ever looked at for the AAC openings, why? Status and perception. If you think UNT got into the AAC because of a market, you have not looked at the full picture. It’s the athletic budget, the infrastructure investment, the coaches’ salary pool, all the things that show we are committed to building a real program. The Belt does way more with way less, but notice that no big schools will touch them in bowls. Back to back great seasons and the Belt can’t even get an AAC team in a bowl game this year, just MAC and CUSA. So would Texas State look at CUSA? We will have to see if the remaining/new schools decide to double down or if they keep it status quo.
When the bowls are reorganized and the mighty AAC has three tie-ins annually to the trailer park. Where will you park? Probably your couch.
You’re going to be disappointed as the AAC tie-ins look much closer to The CUSA lineup and the SBCs get better.
Why? Adding four teams doesn't change anything. To this day 20 years later the Sun Belt Conference has never faced a statused Power Conference school in a bowl game. Sun Belt may see an additional 1-2 primary tie-ins to go with the two they have currently, but a simple reshuffling of bowls won't see drastic changes. CUSA only had four primary tie-ins.
CUSA likely retains the Bahamas Bowl, the New Mexico Bowl, and the New Orleans Bowl. The Independence Bowl will likely realign among the Power Conferences again.
CUSA could pick up the bowl in Frisco.
The AAC may lose a couple of bids of their 7 tie-ins. They could possibly lose Fenway against the ACC to the expanded SEC or Big XII Conference.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - All4One - 12-11-2021 02:58 PM
(12-11-2021 02:45 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:(12-10-2021 09:29 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:
Why is the state of Florida colored in on the SBC map? It should be a gray gap state like Tennessee and Kentucky.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - hotrod2001 - 12-11-2021 06:28 PM
(12-11-2021 07:04 AM)MeanGreenStebo Wrote:(12-10-2021 10:46 PM)MUHERD76 Wrote:(12-10-2021 06:02 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Texas State fits like a glove. Whether or not they'd come is debatable (I think extremely unlikely) but they fit the geography.
Debatable? That's not even close to being debatable. You are totally out of your mind if you think Texas State would leave the Sunbelt for CUSA. Have you not seen what has happened over the last 4-6 months?
The Sun Belt is still the trailer park of conferences. If you look at each school’s acceptance rate/SAT scores/athletic budgets, the standards are generally lower than the new CUSA and significantly lower than the AAC (there are exceptions like UTEP). Nobody from the Belt was ever looked at for the AAC openings, why? Status and perception. If you think UNT got into the AAC because of a market, you have not looked at the full picture. It’s the athletic budget, the infrastructure investment, the coaches’ salary pool, all the things that show we are committed to building a real program. The Belt does way more with way less, but notice that no big schools will touch them in bowls. Back to back great seasons and the Belt can’t even get an AAC team in a bowl game this year, just MAC and CUSA. So would Texas State look at CUSA? We will have to see if the remaining/new schools decide to double down or if they keep it status quo.
You’re adding two FCS teams, another team that has been in the wilderness for most of the last decade and a diploma mill which had been told no multiple times by other conferences. Not to mention your conference is spread out to the four winds while the “trailer park east” is going to have 2/3rds of its members within four hours of each other.
And if you think the AAC is going to be anything of note as the three teams which have put that conference on the map are on their way out you’re delusional.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - JCMiner - 12-11-2021 08:08 PM
(12-11-2021 12:10 AM)Monarch Pride Wrote:Why do you care? Your school did what's best for themselves.(12-10-2021 11:02 AM)Ewglenn Wrote: Can someone make a logo map of the new CUSA members? I would like to see a visual and cannot find one anywhere.
Texas centric - and horrible leadership. That is the map.
RE: NEW CUSA MAP - UNT15 - 12-11-2021 08:11 PM
(12-11-2021 01:40 AM)Curtzilla Wrote:(12-10-2021 03:10 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:Or Stephen F Austin(12-10-2021 03:01 PM)JCMiner Wrote: Imo if we go to 10 we should get a team in the middle of Texas to bridge UTEP/NMSU to SHSU/LT.
Yes but not one in a big market cause you know what that would mean.
Tarleton St in Stephenville or ACU.
SFA is neither in the middle of Texas nor is it a bridge between LT and UTEP. The poster listed specific criteria and you offered up a school that provided neither.
SFA is actually closer to LT than Sam Houston is