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In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are twelve. - jedclampett - 11-27-2020 02:09 PM
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Non-P5 Top 35 teams in the Final AP Poll since the P5/G5 split
2013: 5 teams (not including #15 Louisville, which moved to P5 in 2014)
2014: 5 teams
2015: 9 teams
2016: 8 teams
2017: 8 teams
2018: 9 teams
2019: 12 teams
2020 (to date): 12 teams
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2013:
#10 UCF
#27 Fresno St.
#28 N. Illinois
#29 Marshall
#35 Cincinnati
2014:
#16 Boise St.
#23 Marshall
#25 Memphis
#29 Air Force
#32 Utah State
........................2013-2014 AVERAGE: 5.0 NON-P5 TEAMS IN FINAL AP TOP 35......................
2015:
#8 Houston
#18 Navy
#26 WKU
#27 SDSU
#28 Toledo
#31 Temple
#32 Marshall
#34 App. St.
#35 Boise St.
2016:
#18 WMU
#19 USF
#25 SDSU
#29 WKU
#30 Boise St.
#31 Air Force
#33 Temple
#34 Tulsa
2017:
#7 UCF
#21 USF
#22 Boise St.
#24 Memphis
#27 Troy
#29 FAU
#30 Fresno St.
#31 Army
.........................2015-2017 AVERAGE: 8.3 NON-P5 TEAMS IN FINAL AP TOP 35......................
2018:
#12 UCF
#18 Fresno St.
#20 Army
#21 Utah St.
#23 Cincinnati
#24 Boise St.
#28 App St.
#34 UAB
#35 Georgia Southern
2019:
#17 Memphis
#18 App St.
#20 Navy
#21 Cincinnati
#22 Boise St.
#23 Air Force
#24 UCF
#27 FAU
#29 Louisiana
#32 SDSU
#33 SMU
#34 Louisiana Tech
.........................2018-2019 AVERAGE: 10.5 NON-P5 TEAMS IN FINAL AP TOP 35......................
2020 (to date):
#7 Cincinnati
#8 BYU
#14 Coastal Carolina
#15 Marshall
#20 Louisiana
#22 Tulsa
#25 Liberty
#27 Buffalo
#28 Nevada
#32 Boise St.
#33 San Jose St.
#34 SMU
#35 UCF
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are thirteen. - EigenEagle - 11-27-2020 05:20 PM
With factors like injuries you can always say "every team's got them", but IMO there's a good bit of variability in how the pandemic has helped teams. Some are affected a lot, some not much.
I also think the talent gap between the G5 and the non-elite P5 teams has shrunk.
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are thirteen. - UTEPDallas - 11-27-2020 07:55 PM
UCF and Cincinnati should not be included for 2013 because they counted as AQ (as part of the Big East contract) in the last year of the BCS.
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are thirteen. - whittx - 11-27-2020 09:08 PM
One of the biggest factors in this is the continued improvement and increased awareness of the talent in the Sun Belt over time.
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are thirteen. - jedclampett - 11-28-2020 01:53 PM
(11-27-2020 09:08 PM)whittx Wrote: One of the biggest factors in this is the continued improvement and increased awareness of the talent in the Sun Belt over time.
If the sole focus of that statement is on the 2020 season in particular, it is roughly the equivalent of an uncontested three point shot.
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are thirteen. - PicksUp - 11-28-2020 10:11 PM
The only rankings that matter are the CFP.
The rest are worthless.
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are twelve. - Stugray2 - 12-01-2020 03:45 AM
weird year.
Also the AP rankings are much higher than computer for G5, as their SoS is much lower than P5. There is a tendency to reward a good record over actual power. The NFL draft shows things going the opposite direction, with more and more of the top rounds of the draft dominated by the P5.
RE: In 2014, there were five non-P5 FB teams in the AP top 35. Today, there are twelve. - goodknightfl - 12-01-2020 07:43 AM
And next year #s will return to normal.