(12-28-2021 09:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Gee I guess all of my posts about taking a QB in this class weren't such conjecture after all.

(12-28-2021 09:53 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 09:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Gee I guess all of my posts about taking a QB in this class weren't such conjecture after all.

Is there an old expression about the blind man who stumbles on... (something).

Based on publicly available info, there was no need for another QB. The solution for too many QBs, too little PT, isn't more QBs. We had 5 QBs on the roster. If one wants to get to reductio ad absurdum, Aaron Jackson and Samson Evans were also high school QBs. Arguably QB was our deepest position.

That said, when you posted that I already heard rumbles about the QB situation. Apparently it wasn't a deep secret from the bowels of the SAPC. It was known across campus.

I don't want to say I played dumbed, but I posted as if 'we'll cross that bridge when we get there.' The first signing period was coming and any QB signings wouldn't be until the 2nd signing period.

Once again, and this is important. Signing a QB two weeks ago would NOT have been the wise thing to do. Not added numbers for the sake of adding numbers. The smart thing to do is wait until the situation plays out.

We don't know if we need a starter, a #2, or just depth.

None of us are God. We don't know how this incredible situation will play out. As has been noted, putting ones name in the portal is NOT irreversible. Either could have a change of heart in a New York minute.

The only public info I see of value is that Hutch's name is off the 2022 roster.

If Bryant going fishing and if he doesn't get a real good offer, will he be back??? The key will be when school resumes next week.

Will he begin classes OR sitout the 2nd semester and show up somewhere else next summer?????

(12-28-2021 10:53 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 09:53 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 09:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Gee I guess all of my posts about taking a QB in this class weren't such conjecture after all.

Is there an old expression about the blind man who stumbles on... (something).

Based on publicly available info, there was no need for another QB. The solution for too many QBs, too little PT, isn't more QBs. We had 5 QBs on the roster. If one wants to get to reductio ad absurdum, Aaron Jackson and Samson Evans were also high school QBs. Arguably QB was our deepest position.

That said, when you posted that I already heard rumbles about the QB situation. Apparently it wasn't a deep secret from the bowels of the SAPC. It was known across campus.

I don't want to say I played dumbed, but I posted as if 'we'll cross that bridge when we get there.' The first signing period was coming and any QB signings wouldn't be until the 2nd signing period.

Once again, and this is important. Signing a QB two weeks ago would NOT have been the wise thing to do. Not added numbers for the sake of adding numbers. The smart thing to do is wait until the situation plays out.

We don't know if we need a starter, a #2, or just depth.

None of us are God. We don't know how this incredible situation will play out. As has been noted, putting ones name in the portal is NOT irreversible. Either could have a change of heart in a New York minute.

The only public info I see of value is that Hutch's name is off the 2022 roster.

If Bryant going fishing and if he doesn't get a real good offer, will he be back??? The key will be when school resumes next week.

Will he begin classes OR sitout the 2nd semester and show up somewhere else next summer?????

I'm not a blind man Steve. But you must be since from time to time you piss on other people's posts. Have a nice day.

(12-28-2021 09:53 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 09:00 AM)emu79 Wrote:  Gee I guess all of my posts about taking a QB in this class weren't such conjecture after all.

Is there an old expression about the blind man who stumbles on... (something).

Based on publicly available info, there was no need for another QB. The solution for too many QBs, too little PT, isn't more QBs. We had 5 QBs on the roster. If one wants to get to reductio ad absurdum, Aaron Jackson and Samson Evans were also high school QBs. Arguably QB was our deepest position.

That said, when you posted that I already heard rumbles about the QB situation. Apparently it wasn't a deep secret from the bowels of the SAPC. It was known across campus.

I don't want to say I played dumbed, but I posted as if 'we'll cross that bridge when we get there.' The first signing period was coming and any QB signings wouldn't be until the 2nd signing period.

Once again, and this is important. Signing a QB two weeks ago would NOT have been the wise thing to do. Not added numbers for the sake of adding numbers. The smart thing to do is wait until the situation plays out.

We don't know if we need a starter, a #2, or just depth.

None of us are God. We don't know how this incredible situation will play out. As has been noted, putting ones name in the portal is NOT irreversible. Either could have a change of heart in a New York minute.

The only public info I see of value is that Hutch's name is off the 2022 roster.

If Bryant going fishing and if he doesn't get a real good offer, will he be back??? The key will be when school resumes next week.

Will he begin classes OR sitout the 2nd semester and show up somewhere else next summer?????

(12-28-2021 11:51 PM)holybovine Wrote:  In the new transfer era, it is imperative to take a QB every year, regardless of how the depth chart looks in the moment. Movement is too unpredictable.

(12-29-2021 01:50 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 11:51 PM)holybovine Wrote:  In the new transfer era, it is imperative to take a QB every year, regardless of how the depth chart looks in the moment. Movement is too unpredictable.

Sometimes you are damned if you do; damned if you don't.

Talking Bryant was smart as Hutch got hurt. However, having a QB 1a and 1b is a recipe for disaster (as borne out).

So not taking Bryant would have been foolish given how 2021 played out. Taking Bryant will hurt us in 2022, given how things seem to be playing out.

At QB, 'better to be lucky, than good.' The position can turn into a nightmare in a hurry.

(12-29-2021 08:54 AM)dansplaining Wrote:  

(12-29-2021 01:50 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-28-2021 11:51 PM)holybovine Wrote:  In the new transfer era, it is imperative to take a QB every year, regardless of how the depth chart looks in the moment. Movement is too unpredictable.

Sometimes you are damned if you do; damned if you don't.

Talking Bryant was smart as Hutch got hurt. However, having a QB 1a and 1b is a recipe for disaster (as borne out).

So not taking Bryant would have been foolish given how 2021 played out. Taking Bryant will hurt us in 2022, given how things seem to be playing out.

At QB, 'better to be lucky, than good.' The position can turn into a nightmare in a hurry.

I think you're going to see the NCAA formalize some rules regarding player movement in order to keep it from being a true game of musical chairs every year.

that being said ive been praising CCs ability to work the portal and this is a big test for him. assuming smith and may arent there yet - can he identify a qb that can come in and fit the system him and pike want to run and convince that player to come? we all know this is an attractive destination for a qb - experienced O-Line, good receivers, air it out offense - should be interesting to see how this all plays out.

(12-29-2021 06:06 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://twitter.com/AdamRammouni5/status/1476319012107833350?s=20

(12-14-2021 02:22 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(12-14-2021 01:52 PM)emu79 Wrote:  If we do take a quarterback in this class keep your eye on Cam'Ron McCoy 6'2 190 a high school prospect out of Missouri. He has us Cindy and UT Martin as his top 3 picks.

If we do, I'm worried. I count 5 QBs, 4 of whom are scholarship (Bryant, Hutch, May and Smith).

I doubt we need another unless we fear one is leaving.

(01-01-2022 01:55 PM)emu79 Wrote:  So we have been discussing May and Smith at QB plus Kaminski. Lets not forget Aaron Jackson who was brought in at QB and has been QB for some wildcat plays this past year. We are also bringing in as a PWO Cole McElvany who was a QB at Milan and ran for 1,185 yards and 20TDs and passed for 1,117 yeards and 8 TDS. Certainly has QB size at 6'2 210. I believe they would like Cole as a LB.

(01-01-2022 03:32 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(01-01-2022 01:55 PM)emu79 Wrote:  So we have been discussing May and Smith at QB plus Kaminski. Lets not forget Aaron Jackson who was brought in at QB and has been QB for some wildcat plays this past year. We are also bringing in as a PWO Cole McElvany who was a QB at Milan and ran for 1,185 yards and 20TDs and passed for 1,117 yeards and 8 TDS. Certainly has QB size at 6'2 210. I believe they would like Cole as a LB.

I think that only May and Smith have the potential to be D1 QBs. There's a reason that kids are walk-ons and/or change positions and it's usually that they are lacking some of the essential skills to play at this level. I expect EMU to add one transfer and sign one freshman to get back to four scholarship QBs.

(01-01-2022 07:02 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear holybovine,
What you say does not necessarily hold water. There are many players that you describe that turn into pretty good players. It's how they are coached that is important.

(01-01-2022 09:28 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(01-01-2022 07:02 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear holybovine,
What you say does not necessarily hold water. There are many players that you describe that turn into pretty good players. It's how they are coached that is important.

Ken, you are right. Underrecruited players can be developed into quality starters. However, one should not expect it, IMO.

If you want to win right now, there are plenty of proven commodities in the transfer portal. Why take the risk?

(01-01-2022 10:48 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  

(01-01-2022 09:28 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(01-01-2022 07:02 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear holybovine,
What you say does not necessarily hold water. There are many players that you describe that turn into pretty good players. It's how they are coached that is important.

Ken, you are right. Underrecruited players can be developed into quality starters. However, one should not expect it, IMO.

If you want to win right now, there are plenty of proven commodities in the transfer portal. Why take the risk?

Bazelak would be a great pick up.

(01-01-2022 09:28 PM)holybovine Wrote:  

(01-01-2022 07:02 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear holybovine,
What you say does not necessarily hold water. There are many players that you describe that turn into pretty good players. It's how they are coached that is important.

Ken, you are right. Underrecruited players can be developed into quality starters. However, one should not expect it, IMO.

If you want to win right now, there are plenty of proven commodities in the transfer portal. Why take the risk?