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Men's Soccer is no more. - SuperFlyBCat - 04-14-2020 10:05 AM
https://twitter.com/Williams_Justin/status/1250074860866490370
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RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - UCbball21 - 04-14-2020 10:16 AM
Surprised that soccer was the first on the chopping block but we should expect more of these in the coming years. Men's football, basketball, and baseball are really the only safe ones coupled with the Title IX scholarships to balance. Really unfortunate scenario but such is life as a "G5" school now that the media has relegated us to that status and the lack of money that comes with it.
Men's Soccer is no more. - Cataclysmo - 04-14-2020 10:16 AM
Does that mean the Woman's program is next?
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RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - SuperFlyBCat - 04-14-2020 10:16 AM
(04-14-2020 10:16 AM)UCbball21 Wrote: Surprised that soccer was the first on the chopping block but we should expect more of these in the coming years. Men's football, basketball, and baseball are really the only safe ones coupled with the Title IX scholarships to balance. Really unfortunate scenario but such is life as a "G5" school now that the media has relegated us to that status and the lack of money that comes with it.
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RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - AeroCat - 04-14-2020 10:17 AM
Hmm, interesting. Out of curiosity, is it common for universities to not have soccer as a scholarship sport?
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - JPBearcat3 - 04-14-2020 10:17 AM
Well the optics here aren't great. Especially when you factor in they'll be announcing a raise and extension for Fickell at some point. Probably necessary, though, to keep the revenue-producing sports happy while also balancing Title IX.
This conference sucks. Shame on anyone who hasn't been able to grease our way into a better conference over the last decade. Figure it out.
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - The T-Shirt - 04-14-2020 10:19 AM
I know folks aren't going to like this, but it makes sense. we keep these scholarships in our pocket and when we get that ACC bid we fire up the men's lax program. WOO!
Ahem, yeah, so there it is.
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - OKIcat - 04-14-2020 10:19 AM
(04-14-2020 10:05 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: https://twitter.com/Williams_Justin/status/1250074860866490370
Tough times require tough decisions. UC won't be the first or last high major to terminate a varsity sports program based upon impending budget limitations. Could mens' soccer return at some point? Maybe, especially since we're now a major league soccer town and there is passion here for the sport.
Men's Soccer is no more. - Cataclysmo - 04-14-2020 10:19 AM
I'm sure it's a financial decision, but would be nice to hear that Gettler will be replaced with a permanent indoor practice facility as part of Fickell's contract negotiations
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RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - BearcatMan - 04-14-2020 10:29 AM
As a Men's Soccer alum, this hurt tremendously...being a member of that team made my college experience so much better than I could've ever imagine.
BUT, as a person now firmly entrenched in the professional side of academia, this decision does make sense, and I would be shocked if this was the only news like this out of the state institutions in Ohio in the next few weeks.
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - BearcatMan - 04-14-2020 10:34 AM
(04-14-2020 10:19 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: I'm sure it's a financial decision, but would be nice to hear that Gettler will be replaced with a permanent indoor practice facility as part of Fickell's contract negotiations
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Women's soccer still exists...and likely will continue as it needs to be there to balance scholarships. Men's soccer only accounted for 9.9 scholarships on the AD's balancing count, so there really isn't a whole women's sport that could be cut to maintain a mandated balance per Title IX. Also, the University is going to see a 10-20% budget cut this year...if they decided to build a permanent indoor facility when that cut comes, there ought to be pitchforks and torches mobilizing.
Men's Soccer is no more. - Cataclysmo - 04-14-2020 10:37 AM
I think the idea would be that they move to the current practice bubble location, but as you said, the financial ramifications make it a pipe dream anyways.
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Men's Soccer is no more. - Cataclysmo - 04-14-2020 10:37 AM
It won't just be athletics either.
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RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - BearcatMan - 04-14-2020 10:51 AM
(04-14-2020 10:37 AM)Cataclysmo Wrote: It won't just be athletics either.
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The thread about the likelihood of a 2020 Football Season has a bit of discussion about all of the potential ramifications of this, athletically and otherwise.
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - BearcatsUC - 04-14-2020 11:06 AM
But by gosh, we have a really swell 35,000 seat pitch for them to play on!
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - BigDawg - 04-14-2020 11:09 AM
Surprising considering the rising popularity of soccer in the area, but Title IX hurts lots of men's programs. Hopefully if we get a chance to move leagues that this isn't a stumbling block. I'm guessing the women's program will be fine to help balance the Title IX numbers.
Men's Soccer is no more. - Cataclysmo - 04-14-2020 11:12 AM
Can someone explain the balencing aspect of women's sports? I don't understand. Shouldn't scholarships have already been balenced? And without mens soccer, doesn't that mean there are less men's scholarships around now? Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question.
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RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - bearcatmill - 04-14-2020 11:14 AM
The winner in this is Egg-savier soccer. I see a partnership with FCC coming. This will help them since Eggs under funds all programs, except b-ball. Soccer has been growing in popularity in the tri-state. Once again, UC did absolutely nothing to capitalize on this popularity. Congrats UC. Always a day late and a dollar short.
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - The T-Shirt - 04-14-2020 11:20 AM
(04-14-2020 11:14 AM)bearcatmill Wrote: The winner in this is Egg-savier soccer. I see a partnership with FCC coming. This will help them since Eggs under funds all programs, except b-ball. Soccer has been growing in popularity in the tri-state. Once again, UC did absolutely nothing to capitalize on this popularity. Congrats UC. Always a day late and a dollar short.
I really dont think collegiate soccer is rising in popularity. I could be wrong, but the growth seems to be in youth participation and professional interest.
RE: Men's Soccer is no more. - Cataclysmo - 04-14-2020 11:24 AM
(04-14-2020 11:14 AM)bearcatmill Wrote: The winner in this is Egg-savier soccer. I see a partnership with FCC coming. This will help them since Eggs under funds all programs, except b-ball. Soccer has been growing in popularity in the tri-state. Once again, UC did absolutely nothing to capitalize on this popularity. Congrats UC. Always a day late and a dollar short.MLS soccer and College Soccer don't have as many shared interest as you'd think. And as American soccer develops, they'll have even less.
The Youth soccer system in America is backwards relative to the rest of the world and it's one of the main things we need to fix as the USMNT is rebuilt. Our leadership is garbage right now, but in an ideal world, MLS youth academies would completely siphon the talent from the NCAA.
This transition has already begun but there are still a good deal of players that end up in college ball from the academies. While that may seem like a sustainable strategy for the NCAA--to simply take the best of the rest--it doesn't coincide with US Soccer goals. If our academies develop to the same level as European clubs, we would be bringing in enough talent to essentially make NCAA soccer a club sport anyways.
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