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OT: NCAA puts TCU football, men's and women's basketball on probation - franklyconfused - 12-20-2019 11:05 PM
Fort Worth Star-Telegram
Athletes on summer work-study were allowed to leave work without clocking out, resulting in nearly $20k total overpaid in four summers from 2015 through 2018. Thirty-three athletes from the football, men's basketball, and women's basketball teams were involved. No wins will be vacated for any of the teams because the NCAA agrees that the athletics department was unaware of the situation until shortly before reporting in 2018 and that there was not a substantial impact in player performance or recruiting as a result of the infractions.
One manager in TCU's equivalent of Rice's Dept of Facilities, Engineering, and Planning regularly hired athletes to change lightbulbs across campus, ostensibly because of their reach, balance, and summer availability, and did not closely monitor time cards. It could be a guy trying to be a booster for the athletes, or it could be plain, old-fashioned incompetence. The article doesn't say whether he's still employed at the school or if non-athletes had the same benefits.
Other notes:
- The probation extends until the Christmas break next year.
- The per player benefits were small (the most anyone received was less than $2,700 total accumulated over multiple years; some cited were overpaid less than $100).
- TCU pays a $47k fine, including 10% of the proceeds TCU received from participating in the 2018 men's March Madness. One player in their first-round loss is now declared ineligible due to these over-payments.
- The swimming and diving coach is also punished for exceeding practice time limits and repeatedly directing under-qualified team managers to act as coaches.
- This is the first time TCU football has had a major infraction since typical SWC shenanigans in 1986.
RE: OT: NCAA puts TCU football, men's and women's basketball on probation - Tiki Owl - 12-21-2019 11:19 AM
I’m sure UH isn’t thrilled that they had to vacate wins while TCU doesn’t have to.
RE: OT: NCAA puts TCU football, men's and women's basketball on probation - OptimisticOwl - 12-21-2019 11:21 AM
Changing light bulbs.
RE: OT: NCAA puts TCU football, men's and women's basketball on probation - Hambone10 - 12-21-2019 01:06 PM
What did A&M do?
RE: OT: NCAA puts TCU football, men's and women's basketball on probation - Owl 69/70/75 - 12-21-2019 01:27 PM
(12-21-2019 11:19 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote: I’m sure UH isn’t thrilled that they had to vacate wins while TCU doesn’t have to.
I guess maybe so, but "vacating" is about as minimal a penalty as one can imagine. I mean, exactly what do you give up? The right to claim that you won a game that you won on the field or court two years ago? That just doesn't sound all that harsh to me.
RE: OT: NCAA puts TCU football, men's and women's basketball on probation - OptimisticOwl - 12-21-2019 03:47 PM
Everybody knows who won the game on the field, and the fact that a player played who made a little extra money changing light bulbs doesn't change that.
Now, if the starting QB and a few other starters were getting term papers written for them, THEN those games should be vacated.