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Poor Madia - Dukester - 11-12-2019 04:08 PM

Greg the last few years used his ability to talk with the assistant coaches through out the year to provide interesting information to the fans. I used to enjoy listening to his podcasts with the DC and OC.

This year the assistant coaches are not allowed to provide any interviews during the season.

This year the best Greg can do is write an article on Shane Montgomery based on one sentence from Cig and numerous comments from Santos, but nothing from Shane.

Article on Shane Montgomery

I care most about winning with a clean program that takes care of it's players. I do think the assistants deserve some credit for the results as well. Cig will occasionally throw a comment out about the assistants, but it's rare. Not even sure I know who the DC and OC are - are they Leather... and Montgomery?


RE: Poor Madia - ShadyP - 11-12-2019 04:20 PM

(11-12-2019 04:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Greg the last few years used his ability to talk with the assistant coaches through out the year to provide interesting information to the fans. I used to enjoy listening to his podcasts with the DC and OC.

This year the assistant coaches are not allowed to provide any interviews during the season.

This year the best Greg can do is write an article on Shane Montgomery based on one sentence from Cig and numerous comments from Santos, but nothing from Shane.

Article on Shane Montgomery

I care most about winning with a clean program that takes care of it's players. I do think the assistants deserve some credit for the results as well. Cig will occasionally throw a comment out about the assistants, but it's rare. Not even sure I know who the DC and OC are - are they Leather... and Montgomery?

Come on man......Madia does an amazing job and I am sure he has plenty of off the record access to chat top with assistants and players.......no if chooses to abuse that privilege and burn bridges that is his call but it seems he is a professional and enjoys the access provided.

Every coach has different rules about access on the record to coaches and players. Cig has one of not allowing it and that is his choice. I could care less.....Madia still reports great stories so clearly has insight off the record. Sorry you do not like the current media access rules......I suggest you contact Jeff Bourne or Cig directly on this matter and voice your displeasure.....geez, really.


RE: Poor Madia - Centdukesfan - 11-12-2019 04:33 PM

this thread is stupid


RE: Poor Madia - Knit35 - 11-12-2019 04:36 PM

I really enjoy Madia's podcasts and he has been one of the best individuals for creating content and work around JMU Football. I would consider us lucky to have him.


RE: Poor Madia - JMURocks - 11-12-2019 04:38 PM

Cig runs a very tight disciplined ship. He’s very measured and careful about what he says to the media. Something in his past has made him decide to control the messaging, and that’s fine by me.

fwiw, this *might* be related to Saban and his “one voice” media policy
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2018/01/nick_saban_once_bucked_bill_be.html

Couldn’t ask much more from the results thus far. The team has been controversy free and is performing at a very high level.


RE: Poor Madia - Dukester - 11-12-2019 04:46 PM

(11-12-2019 04:20 PM)ShadyP Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 04:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Greg the last few years used his ability to talk with the assistant coaches through out the year to provide interesting information to the fans. I used to enjoy listening to his podcasts with the DC and OC.

This year the assistant coaches are not allowed to provide any interviews during the season.

This year the best Greg can do is write an article on Shane Montgomery based on one sentence from Cig and numerous comments from Santos, but nothing from Shane.

Article on Shane Montgomery

I care most about winning with a clean program that takes care of it's players. I do think the assistants deserve some credit for the results as well. Cig will occasionally throw a comment out about the assistants, but it's rare. Not even sure I know who the DC and OC are - are they Leather... and Montgomery?

Come on man......Madia does an amazing job and I am sure he has plenty of off the record access to chat top with assistants and players.......no if chooses to abuse that privilege and burn bridges that is his call but it seems he is a professional and enjoys the access provided.

Every coach has different rules about access on the record to coaches and players. Cig has one of not allowing it and that is his choice. I could care less.....Madia still reports great stories so clearly has insight off the record. Sorry you do not like the current media access rules......I suggest you contact Jeff Bourne or Cig directly on this matter and voice your displeasure.....geez, really.

Displeasure? I was just saying it's a challenge to write an article on someone you can't get info from or about. I think Madia is the best DNR sports reporter we've ever had.


RE: Poor Madia - BDKJMU - 11-12-2019 04:49 PM

(11-12-2019 04:08 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Greg the last few years used his ability to talk with the assistant coaches through out the year to provide interesting information to the fans. I used to enjoy listening to his podcasts with the DC and OC.

This year the assistant coaches are not allowed to provide any interviews during the season.

This year the best Greg can do is write an article on Shane Montgomery based on one sentence from Cig and numerous comments from Santos, but nothing from Shane.

Article on Shane Montgomery

I care most about winning with a clean program that takes care of it's players. I do think the assistants deserve some credit for the results as well. Cig will occasionally throw a comment out about the assistants, but it's rare. Not even sure I know who the DC and OC are - are they Leather... and Montgomery?

I get not knowing who some of the assistants are, but if you don't know who the coordinators are, then you aren't closely following the team. Heck, just look at the roster on JMUSports.com. Montgomery has been mentioned in a lot of Madia articles in regards to JMU's offense, Dinucci, recruiting, etc.

Here are some of the Madia articles on Hetherman:
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/hetherman-focused-on-fundamentals
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/figuring-out-what-hetherman-s-defense-looks-like
https://jamesmadison.rivals.com/news/hetherman-brings-aggressive-adaptable-defense-to-jmu
Mentioned in a lot of others as well.


RE: Poor Madia - BDKJMU - 11-12-2019 04:51 PM

(11-12-2019 04:38 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Cig runs a very tight disciplined ship. He’s very measured and careful about what he says to the media. Something in his past has made him decide to control the messaging, and that’s fine by me.

fwiw, this *might* be related to Saban and his “one voice” media policy
https://www.al.com/alabamafootball/2018/01/nick_saban_once_bucked_bill_be.html

Couldn’t ask much more from the results thus far. The team has been controversy free and is performing at a very high level.
Yep. CC is following the Saban blueprint (which Kirby Smart follows also). From 4 years ago:
Quote:PHOENIX— Don’t expect to hear much from Georgia’s assistant coaches once Kirby Smart gets to Athens.

For nine years now, Smart has been at Alabama handling a fairly major role for head coach Nick Saban. Yet outside the confines of the Mal Moore Athletic Facility, not a lot of people knew much about his personality or really his opinions on a lot of subjects.
That’s because it has always been Saban’s policy to not let his assistants do interviews during the seasons. That changes during postseason play because of SEC and NCAA policies.
https://www.dawgnation.com/football/team-news/kirby-smart-no-media-interviews-for-uga-assistants


RE: Poor Madia - #YEEHAWDUKES - 11-12-2019 04:52 PM

Dave Thomas talks to both Montgomery and Heathermen during his pregame show each week. Cignetti gives a lot of credit to his assistants and frequently talks about how he lets them do their job without him interfering. He clearly doesn’t like talking about gameplan before the game so it isn’t surprising the assistants don’t talk before the pregame show.


RE: Poor Madia - Dukester - 11-12-2019 05:02 PM

(11-12-2019 04:52 PM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  Dave Thomas talks to both Montgomery and Heathermen during his pregame show each week. Cignetti gives a lot of credit to his assistants and frequently talks about how he lets them do their job without him interfering. He clearly doesn’t like talking about gameplan before the game so it isn’t surprising the assistants don’t talk before the pregame show.

He does? I did not know that. I guess I've not listened to the pregame show.


RE: Poor Madia - #YEEHAWDUKES - 11-12-2019 05:19 PM

(11-12-2019 05:02 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 04:52 PM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  Dave Thomas talks to both Montgomery and Heathermen during his pregame show each week. Cignetti gives a lot of credit to his assistants and frequently talks about how he lets them do their job without him interfering. He clearly doesn’t like talking about gameplan before the game so it isn’t surprising the assistants don’t talk before the pregame show.

He does? I did not know that. I guess I've not listened to the pregame show.

Honestly I didn’t know until this week when I tuned in for the first time. I was surprised when I heard the segment.


RE: Poor Madia - NJDuke97 - 11-12-2019 05:20 PM

We are so spoiled and successful that often these threads knit pick on something that is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things- like this for example.


RE: Poor Madia - Dukester - 11-12-2019 05:37 PM

Well you got your choice in which new thread today you prefer.

One about how fans will come up with reasons for not going to playoff games, with BDK being confused by different semi dates, or another about Madia's lack of access to the coaches.

Or I guess we can talk one of the other exciting threads like we are better than NDSU?, or FCS playoffs are better than Weed Eater Bowls, or did you see then new crane at the new arena, or why does the selection committee always favor UNH.

We all come on here and open these threads each day and see the exact same things discussed from every conceivable angle. Have to have something for you to comment on.

04-cheers


RE: Poor Madia - BDKJMU - 11-12-2019 05:47 PM

(11-12-2019 05:37 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Well you got your choice in which new thread today you prefer.

One about how fans will come up with reasons for not going to playoff games, with BDK being confused by different semi dates, or another about Madia's lack of access to the coaches.

Or I guess we can talk one of the other exciting threads like we are better than NDSU?, or FCS playoffs are better than Weed Eater Bowls, or did you see then new crane at the new arena, or why does the selection committee always favor UNH.

We all come on here and open these threads each day and see the exact same things discussed from every conceivable angle. Have to have something for you to comment on.

04-cheers
I’m not confused about the dates. 01-wingedeagle Its JMU that’s confused.
-JMU puts out earlier this year the semis are on Fri/Sat..
-Then they change that on the schedule to they’re both on Sat.
-Then they send out an e-mail with playoff info that the semis are on Fri/Sat.


RE: Poor Madia - Dukester - 11-12-2019 05:48 PM

(11-12-2019 05:47 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 05:37 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Well you got your choice in which new thread today you prefer.

One about how fans will come up with reasons for not going to playoff games, with BDK being confused by different semi dates, or another about Madia's lack of access to the coaches.

Or I guess we can talk one of the other exciting threads like we are better than NDSU?, or FCS playoffs are better than Weed Eater Bowls, or did you see then new crane at the new arena, or why does the selection committee always favor UNH.

We all come on here and open these threads each day and see the exact same things discussed from every conceivable angle. Have to have something for you to comment on.

04-cheers
I’m not confused about the dates. 01-wingedeagle Its JMU that’s confused.
-JMU puts out earlier this year the semis are on Fri/Sat..
-Then they change that on the schedule to they’re both on Sat.
-Then they send out an e-mail with playoff info that the semis are on Fri/Sat.

Quit complaining. 03-lmfao


RE: Poor Madia - JMURocks - 11-12-2019 06:00 PM

(11-12-2019 05:47 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  
(11-12-2019 05:37 PM)Dukester Wrote:  Well you got your choice in which new thread today you prefer.

One about how fans will come up with reasons for not going to playoff games, with BDK being confused by different semi dates, or another about Madia's lack of access to the coaches.

Or I guess we can talk one of the other exciting threads like we are better than NDSU?, or FCS playoffs are better than Weed Eater Bowls, or did you see then new crane at the new arena, or why does the selection committee always favor UNH.

We all come on here and open these threads each day and see the exact same things discussed from every conceivable angle. Have to have something for you to comment on.

04-cheers
I’m not confused about the dates. 01-wingedeagle Its JMU that’s confused.
-JMU puts out earlier this year the semis are on Fri/Sat..
-Then they change that on the schedule to they’re both on Sat.
-Then they send out an e-mail with playoff info that the semis are on Fri/Sat.

Crazy!

Don't know why folks can't just look at the NCAA published bracket:
https://www.ncaa.com/brackets/football/fcs/2019


RE: Poor Madia - Deez Nuts - 11-12-2019 06:38 PM

Nothing poor about it. Madia is the best.


RE: Poor Madia - ShadyP - 11-13-2019 10:34 AM

Madia is outstanding as is the interactions with Curt Dudley.


RE: Poor Madia - Potomac - 11-15-2019 01:23 PM

What is poor is the title of this thread. Don't give me a heart attack about the GOAT beat writer.


RE: Poor Madia - JMad03 - 11-15-2019 05:10 PM

Madia has produced just as much content as he always does. If anything, he has been focusing more on the players by not having the coordinators to go to.
As was said earlier, I've actually listened to almost every pregame show that Dave Thomas does and either Montgomery or Hetherman has been on every one that I can remember. Hetherman seems to have been on more than Montgomery, though.
Lastly, we are winning so it seems to be working. If CC wants to limit every staff member so they can keep winning, then so be it.
Madia has been so good, I had no idea he had no access to the coordinators.