(10-01-2019 06:38 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 04:44 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 02:52 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 01:08 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 12:46 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Namath was a career 50% passer with a 65.5 QBR. He threw 173 TDs to 220 INTs.

Again, completely different game. Throws were pretty much all deep bombs and DB’s could basically mug the receivers.

Namath, except for one game, was not even one of the greatest QBs of his time. There's been a huge argument against him being a HOFer.

Not one person who saw Namath play or played with him would even try to argue against Namath as a HOFer. Before 1978 he was the only QB to put up a 4,000+ yard season. He was voted to 5 Pro Bowls by his peers (this was before the fans had a say). That destroys your argument that he wasn’t “one of the best of his time”. He would have gone to more if not for his bad knees. And while he’s best known for Super Bowl III, he was stuck on some awful Jets teams. Namath’s contemporaries revered him.

And as for that “1 game”, it was the most important victory in NFL history. So, yeah, it’s natural to think that was a big part of his HOF resume. That doesn’t take anything away from his career accomplishments.

Yep, SB MVP who didn't throw a TD. Didn't throw a single pass in the 4th quarter. While Matt Snell ran for 121 yards. Scored their only TD. And helped set up all 3 of their field goals. But sure. Broadway Joe was the hero.

(10-01-2019 10:56 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 06:38 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 04:44 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 02:52 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-01-2019 01:08 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Again, completely different game. Throws were pretty much all deep bombs and DB’s could basically mug the receivers.

Namath, except for one game, was not even one of the greatest QBs of his time. There's been a huge argument against him being a HOFer.

Not one person who saw Namath play or played with him would even try to argue against Namath as a HOFer. Before 1978 he was the only QB to put up a 4,000+ yard season. He was voted to 5 Pro Bowls by his peers (this was before the fans had a say). That destroys your argument that he wasn’t “one of the best of his time”. He would have gone to more if not for his bad knees. And while he’s best known for Super Bowl III, he was stuck on some awful Jets teams. Namath’s contemporaries revered him.

And as for that “1 game”, it was the most important victory in NFL history. So, yeah, it’s natural to think that was a big part of his HOF resume. That doesn’t take anything away from his career accomplishments.

Yep, SB MVP who didn't throw a TD. Didn't throw a single pass in the 4th quarter. While Matt Snell ran for 121 yards. Scored their only TD. And helped set up all 3 of their field goals. But sure. Broadway Joe was the hero.

Wow. Are you a Baltimore Colts fan or something? Sheesh.

You didn’t even bother trying to respond to the other points. I’ll accept your surrender on this one.

(10-02-2019 06:44 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Yes, I do concede. I like your points. And I did see him play. But I do find it amusing that you may have, for the first time, argued against statistics.

(10-02-2019 07:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 06:44 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Yes, I do concede. I like your points. And I did see him play. But I do find it amusing that you may have, for the first time, argued against statistics.

Statistics when they don't fit my argument are not useful.

(10-02-2019 07:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 07:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 06:44 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Yes, I do concede. I like your points. And I did see him play. But I do find it amusing that you may have, for the first time, argued against statistics.

Statistics when they don't fit my argument are not useful.

There, fixed it for you. It's ok 08, we all do it

(10-02-2019 10:28 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  If you go back to my posts using Flutie and Tebow, you should see that you are arguing my point. Namath fits my argument. But I still think Snell should have been the MVP. I'm old enough to have watched that game. It's just my opinion, but that's the bottom line. Because Stone Cold said so. Oops, wrong venue.

(10-02-2019 10:28 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 07:57 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 07:47 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  

(10-02-2019 06:44 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  Yes, I do concede. I like your points. And I did see him play. But I do find it amusing that you may have, for the first time, argued against statistics.

Statistics when they don't fit my argument are not useful.

There, fixed it for you. It's ok 08, we all do it

If you go back to my posts using Flutie and Tebow, you should see that you are arguing my point. Namath fits my argument. But I still think Snell should have been the MVP. I'm old enough to have watched that game. It's just my opinion, but that's the bottom line. Because Stone Cold said so. Oops, wrong venue.

(10-06-2019 07:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Cowgirls show up once again.

And, CMC MVP

(10-06-2019 07:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Cowgirls show up once again.

And, CMC MVP

C Mac is a beast for sure. Too bad guys on bad teams don't usually win it.

(10-06-2019 08:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Cowgirls show up once again.

And, CMC MVP

C Mac is a beast for sure. Too bad guys on bad teams don't usually win it.

We will see. Defense is nasty and can keep them in games. With Cam out, they have a chance to keep the offense rolling. Don't sleep on the Panthers.

(10-06-2019 08:08 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Cowgirls show up once again.

And, CMC MVP

C Mac is a beast for sure. Too bad guys on bad teams don't usually win it.

We will see. Defense is nasty and can keep them in games. With Cam out, they have a chance to keep the offense rolling. Don't sleep on the Panthers.

They certainly have a better chance as long as Cam stays out. Panthers D is 10th in the league right now. The few decent teams they have played scored some points.

(10-06-2019 07:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Cowgirls show up once again.

And, CMC MVP

C Mac is a beast for sure. Too bad guys on bad teams don't usually win it.

(10-06-2019 08:45 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:08 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:07 PM)82hawk Wrote:  Cowgirls show up once again.

And, CMC MVP

C Mac is a beast for sure. Too bad guys on bad teams don't usually win it.

We will see. Defense is nasty and can keep them in games. With Cam out, they have a chance to keep the offense rolling. Don't sleep on the Panthers.

They certainly have a better chance as long as Cam stays out. Panthers D is 10th in the league right now. The few decent teams they have played scored some points.

Before today our D was 4th in total yards. Offense was 17th. Haven't seen an update.

(10-07-2019 07:15 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:45 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:08 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 07:44 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  C Mac is a beast for sure. Too bad guys on bad teams don't usually win it.

We will see. Defense is nasty and can keep them in games. With Cam out, they have a chance to keep the offense rolling. Don't sleep on the Panthers.

They certainly have a better chance as long as Cam stays out. Panthers D is 10th in the league right now. The few decent teams they have played scored some points.

Before today our D was 4th in total yards. Offense was 17th. Haven't seen an update.

Panthers are now 8th in team defense, 15th in team offense and 11th in points per game. And C Mac is 1st in rushing yards.

(10-07-2019 07:51 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-07-2019 07:15 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:45 PM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:08 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(10-06-2019 08:04 PM)82hawk Wrote:  We will see. Defense is nasty and can keep them in games. With Cam out, they have a chance to keep the offense rolling. Don't sleep on the Panthers.

They certainly have a better chance as long as Cam stays out. Panthers D is 10th in the league right now. The few decent teams they have played scored some points.

Before today our D was 4th in total yards. Offense was 17th. Haven't seen an update.

Panthers are now 8th in team defense, 15th in team offense and 11th in points per game. And C Mac is 1st in rushing yards.

C Mac is a stud. No if ands or buts about it. They could pile up some wins, their schedule is pretty weak looking at it. Can they get by the Tampa juggernaut they lost too in the first game next week? Sorry, just don't think they are that good. I know that goes against popular opinion here.