(01-28-2020 08:52 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(01-27-2020 10:10 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(01-27-2020 04:44 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  I like KC as well. SF has a great running game and the defense is great, but Jimmy G has been inconsistent. I think KC's offense will too much...no prediction on the score.

110% agree. They did the same thing to Tennessee. Shut down their run game and force a “meh” QB to beat you. Mahomes is easily the better QB in the SB. If he gets going early or going at all... it’s over for SF.


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TN D was not nearly as good as SF. Not even close.

(02-02-2020 11:22 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Haha you guys had GB beating SF remember that. Not my fault Shanahan is the biggest choker in the history of super bowl coaches


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(02-02-2020 11:22 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Haha you guys had GB beating SF remember that. Not my fault Shanahan is the biggest choker in the history of super bowl coaches

(02-02-2020 11:26 PM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-02-2020 11:22 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Haha you guys had GB beating SF remember that. Not my fault Shanahan is the biggest choker in the history of super bowl coaches


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Lol.

That wasn’t on the coaching. Let’s face it. SF has a nasty good defense. A decent running game. Decent receivers. And “just another meh old Patriots backup” as a QB. I told you if they forced Garrapolo to have to play a strong, consistent game they’d win. He’s an average NFL QB.


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(02-03-2020 12:05 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One team had Mahomes and the other didn't. No, Pat didn't have his best game, but he had 3 TD's (1 rushing) and led the comeback drive. Meanwhile Jimmy G was trash.

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 12:05 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  One team had Mahomes and the other didn't. No, Pat didn't have his best game, but he had 3 TD's (1 rushing) and led the comeback drive. Meanwhile Jimmy G was trash.

At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

Bricks-
Agree with you, Mahomes is here for the long haul. Especially if Reed can continue to improve that D

(02-03-2020 10:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

How many throws did he complete that were caught 15 yards beyond of scrimmage? I'd have to go back and look, but it didn't look like Shanahan trusted JG to make a play. With that said, on their last possession with a chance to win the game, Shanahan calls a third down play and they had an open receiver for touchdown (with a good throw.) Jimmy simply didn't make the play. Hard to put it ALL on the coach.

(02-03-2020 10:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

How many throws did he complete that were caught 15 yards beyond of scrimmage? I'd have to go back and look, but it didn't look like Shanahan trusted JG to make a play. With that said, on their last possession with a chance to win the game, Shanahan calls a third down play and they had an open receiver for touchdown (with a good throw.) Jimmy simply didn't make the play. Hard to put it ALL on the coach.

(02-03-2020 10:47 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

How many throws did he complete that were caught 15 yards beyond of scrimmage? I'd have to go back and look, but it didn't look like Shanahan trusted JG to make a play. With that said, on their last possession with a chance to win the game, Shanahan calls a third down play and they had an open receiver for touchdown (with a good throw.) Jimmy simply didn't make the play. Hard to put it ALL on the coach.

Exactly. Garropolo's decision making as a QB is atrocious too. He's lucky they only got beat by 11 thanks to SF's defense. That first INT he threw where he could see the defender coming in for a sack and just heaved a pass up that was no where near his receiver... and Hoops is saying he was the better QB for 3 quarters??? No he wasn't. SF just had a lock down defense for three quarters.

(02-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:47 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

How many throws did he complete that were caught 15 yards beyond of scrimmage? I'd have to go back and look, but it didn't look like Shanahan trusted JG to make a play. With that said, on their last possession with a chance to win the game, Shanahan calls a third down play and they had an open receiver for touchdown (with a good throw.) Jimmy simply didn't make the play. Hard to put it ALL on the coach.

Exactly. Garropolo's decision making as a QB is atrocious too. He's lucky they only got beat by 11 thanks to SF's defense. That first INT he threw where he could see the defender coming in for a sack and just heaved a pass up that was no where near his receiver... and Hoops is saying he was the better QB for 3 quarters??? No he wasn't. SF just had a lock down defense for three quarters.

Jimmy was 18-21, and Mahomes was missing WR left and right and had a bad pick too. YES he was. But, Mahomes came up big when it counted that's really all that matters.

(02-03-2020 10:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:47 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 09:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  At one point Jimmy was 18-21. He was terrible down the stretch. Trash when it counts? Sure. Jimmy was the better QB for 3 quarters, Mahomes had a great Q4 when it counted. (disclaimer in no way do i think Jimmy Is better than Mahomie). Damian Williams got jobbed, he was the MVP.

How many throws did he complete that were caught 15 yards beyond of scrimmage? I'd have to go back and look, but it didn't look like Shanahan trusted JG to make a play. With that said, on their last possession with a chance to win the game, Shanahan calls a third down play and they had an open receiver for touchdown (with a good throw.) Jimmy simply didn't make the play. Hard to put it ALL on the coach.

Exactly. Garropolo's decision making as a QB is atrocious too. He's lucky they only got beat by 11 thanks to SF's defense. That first INT he threw where he could see the defender coming in for a sack and just heaved a pass up that was no where near his receiver... and Hoops is saying he was the better QB for 3 quarters??? No he wasn't. SF just had a lock down defense for three quarters.

Jimmy was 18-21, and Mahomes was missing WR left and right and had a bad pick too. YES he was. But, Mahomes came up big when it counted that's really all that matters.

No. Mahomes never through a duck into the air for the defenders to just get under for an easy pick. G was throwing little 4-5 yard passes to get to 18-21. C'mon dude. Did you even watch the game? SF hasn't trusted G all year. Their defense and ground game have been exemplary.

Mahomes picks were tipped passes off the receivers.

(02-03-2020 10:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:47 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:26 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  How many throws did he complete that were caught 15 yards beyond of scrimmage? I'd have to go back and look, but it didn't look like Shanahan trusted JG to make a play. With that said, on their last possession with a chance to win the game, Shanahan calls a third down play and they had an open receiver for touchdown (with a good throw.) Jimmy simply didn't make the play. Hard to put it ALL on the coach.

Exactly. Garropolo's decision making as a QB is atrocious too. He's lucky they only got beat by 11 thanks to SF's defense. That first INT he threw where he could see the defender coming in for a sack and just heaved a pass up that was no where near his receiver... and Hoops is saying he was the better QB for 3 quarters??? No he wasn't. SF just had a lock down defense for three quarters.

Jimmy was 18-21, and Mahomes was missing WR left and right and had a bad pick too. YES he was. But, Mahomes came up big when it counted that's really all that matters.

No. Mahomes never through a duck into the air for the defenders to just get under for an easy pick. G was throwing little 4-5 yard passes to get to 18-21. C'mon dude. Did you even watch the game? SF hasn't trusted G all year. Their defense and ground game have been exemplary.

Mahomes picks were tipped passes off the receivers.

I absolutely watched the game. I don't GAF what happened all season, we are talking about the first 3 quarters of the super bowl, Mahomes also had a terrible pick and a fumble he was lucky to recover. Mahomes had a great Q4 because the niners couldn't keep the offense and keep him off the field going mainly because Jimmy was terrible in Q4.

Mahomes came through when it matters, that's really all that matters anyways. I'm happy for Andy Reid

(02-03-2020 10:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  No. Mahomes never through a duck into the air for the defenders to just get under for an easy pick. G was throwing little 4-5 yard passes to get to 18-21. C'mon dude. Did you even watch the game? SF hasn't trusted G all year. Their defense and ground game have been exemplary.

Mahomes picks were tipped passes off the receivers.

(02-03-2020 11:01 AM)bricksnivy Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  No. Mahomes never through a duck into the air for the defenders to just get under for an easy pick. G was throwing little 4-5 yard passes to get to 18-21. C'mon dude. Did you even watch the game? SF hasn't trusted G all year. Their defense and ground game have been exemplary.

Mahomes picks were tipped passes off the receivers.

I think it is fair to say that Mahomes was not typical last night. They were able to pressure with four, and he was uncomfortable. Even when he had open guys, he was off the mark, and both of the picks were on him, IMO. One he misread the defense, and the second was behind the receiver...it was off of the receiver's hands, but mainly because the throw was off target. Had KC lost, Mahomes would be getting fair criticism, but he came through in the last 10 minutes.

Jimmy is just an average NFL QB. He managed the game for three quarters, but if you look at how Shanahan approached the end of the first half, he was trying to manage risks. With a top 10 QB, you can be aggressive in that situation, but Shanahan didn't have confidence in him. So, even with him managing the game "better" his ceiling is so much lower. The throw to Kittle was nice, fwiw.

(02-03-2020 11:00 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:47 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  Exactly. Garropolo's decision making as a QB is atrocious too. He's lucky they only got beat by 11 thanks to SF's defense. That first INT he threw where he could see the defender coming in for a sack and just heaved a pass up that was no where near his receiver... and Hoops is saying he was the better QB for 3 quarters??? No he wasn't. SF just had a lock down defense for three quarters.

Jimmy was 18-21, and Mahomes was missing WR left and right and had a bad pick too. YES he was. But, Mahomes came up big when it counted that's really all that matters.

No. Mahomes never through a duck into the air for the defenders to just get under for an easy pick. G was throwing little 4-5 yard passes to get to 18-21. C'mon dude. Did you even watch the game? SF hasn't trusted G all year. Their defense and ground game have been exemplary.

Mahomes picks were tipped passes off the receivers.

I absolutely watched the game. I don't GAF what happened all season, we are talking about the first 3 quarters of the super bowl, Mahomes also had a terrible pick and a fumble he was lucky to recover. Mahomes had a great Q4 because the niners couldn't keep the offense and keep him off the field going mainly because Jimmy was terrible in Q4.

Mahomes came through when it matters, that's really all that matters anyways. I'm happy for Andy Reid

That was my point. He wasn't a capable QB to win that game. He was average at best the first three quarters and terrible down the stretch. If they had a good QB, SF wins that game. That was my point. It wasn't 100% on the coaching.

I called this on here well before the game. Force Jimmy G to be the one to have to beat you and you beat SF. Which isn't easy b/c that means you need to get out in front of SF by multiple scores. They're defense all year and through most of the SB prevented that. Once it happened though, there's no way SF wins in a shootout... not with Jimmy G... EVER.

(02-03-2020 11:04 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 11:00 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:54 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:51 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  

(02-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  Jimmy was 18-21, and Mahomes was missing WR left and right and had a bad pick too. YES he was. But, Mahomes came up big when it counted that's really all that matters.

No. Mahomes never through a duck into the air for the defenders to just get under for an easy pick. G was throwing little 4-5 yard passes to get to 18-21. C'mon dude. Did you even watch the game? SF hasn't trusted G all year. Their defense and ground game have been exemplary.

Mahomes picks were tipped passes off the receivers.

I absolutely watched the game. I don't GAF what happened all season, we are talking about the first 3 quarters of the super bowl, Mahomes also had a terrible pick and a fumble he was lucky to recover. Mahomes had a great Q4 because the niners couldn't keep the offense and keep him off the field going mainly because Jimmy was terrible in Q4.

Mahomes came through when it matters, that's really all that matters anyways. I'm happy for Andy Reid

That was my point. He wasn't a capable QB to win that game. He was average at best the first three quarters and terrible down the stretch. If they had a good QB, SF wins that game. That was my point. It wasn't 100% on the coaching.

I called this on here well before the game. Force Jimmy G to be the one to have to beat you and you beat SF. Which isn't easy b/c that means you need to get out in front of SF by multiple scores. They're defense all year and through most of the SB prevented that. Once it happened though, there's no way SF wins in a shootout... not with Jimmy G... EVER.

Average at Best isn't 18-21, sorry. And you are wrong again with the EVER comment, you forget the 48-46 win over the Saints? win a shootout rarely, sure. Not ever? Wrong again.