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Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Across the Pond - 08-09-2019 01:11 PM
Found this on a messageboard (sorry forgot on which one, was a summit league team):
https://ncaaorg.s3.amazonaws.com/committees/d1/council/Jun2019D1Council_Report.pdf
Maybe the NCAA will change legislation for reclassifying process
G: (7) Review of Reclassification Process. (Fairness/Well-Being/Operational)
The Strategic Vision and Planning Committee will continue to discuss
whether an institution should have an opportunity to reclassify from
Division III to Division I, without first requiring that institution be a
Division II member, noting the importance of ensuring preparedness for
Division I membership.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - IWokeUpLikeThis - 08-09-2019 01:22 PM
Good news for the Summit if NCAA allows it. Every school in that league would prefer the Tommies over Augustana.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Gamecock - 08-09-2019 03:22 PM
Honestly I don't see why they shouldn't be able to do just that and go from D3 to D1 just like a D2 school would
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - jacksfan29 - 08-09-2019 03:42 PM
(08-09-2019 01:22 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Good news for the Summit if NCAA allows it. Every school in that league would prefer the Tommies over Augustana.
St. Thomas, unlike Augustana would be successful in D1. 10K students, metro area, strong alumni base, large endowment. What is their not to like.
The fact that Augustana, with fewer then 2K enrollment, tiny endowment and a small alumni base are even considering D1 only goes to show that not all University Presidents have a clue.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - MWC Tex - 08-09-2019 04:27 PM
Well...won’t that open up quite a few options for some conferences if there are any other large D3 schools!
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - MissouriStateBears - 08-09-2019 05:14 PM
(08-09-2019 04:27 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: Well...won’t that open up quite a few options for some conferences if there are any other large D3 schools!
This would be similar to the Liberty case IMO.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Fighting Muskie - 08-09-2019 05:52 PM
Does the Summit League actually want St Thomas? Wouldn’t they rather have some of the Minnesota state schools?
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - MWC Tex - 08-09-2019 06:00 PM
Which D3 schools have large enrollments?
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Nerdlinger - 08-09-2019 06:00 PM
(08-09-2019 05:52 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: Does the Summit League actually want St Thomas? Wouldn’t they rather have some of the Minnesota state schools?
Beggars can't be choosers.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - CoastalVANDAL - 08-09-2019 06:24 PM
Seems like an exception could be made considering they were kicked out for being good.
Two thousand seat arena one thousand seat rink and five thousand seat stadium.
Football could stay non scholarship Pioneer league.
I would think a facility drive to double the rink maybe add a thousand seats for basketball and their good.
It would not be required but adding revenue would be helpful .
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - CoastalVANDAL - 08-09-2019 06:26 PM
(08-09-2019 06:00 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:(08-09-2019 05:52 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: Does the Summit League actually want St Thomas? Wouldn’t they rather have some of the Minnesota state schools?
Beggars can't be choosers.
They want a school in Minnesota one might lead to two.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - puck swami - 08-09-2019 06:43 PM
Would like to see this happen. Unlike Augie, The Tommies would be a terrific addition to the Summit League. They'd bring a large new MSP market with great air travel destinations, strong academics, strong enrollment/ and a good endowment. This is an ambitious private university with a lot going for it.
I also think they'd be able to develop a strong D-I hockey program in short order with the right rink, too which could really help the WCHA.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Wedge - 08-09-2019 08:15 PM
(08-09-2019 06:00 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: Which D3 schools have large enrollments?
NYU (26,000 undergraduates) and UC Santa Cruz (17,000) must be among the largest. No reason for either to be in Division I athletics.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - KingSean - 08-09-2019 08:30 PM
Both St. THOMAS and Augustana would be great adds to the Summit League. Sioux Falls is a growing city and St.thomas is a great athletic program
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - IWokeUpLikeThis - 08-09-2019 08:31 PM
Add the Tommies, Violets, & Banana Slugs to D1 ASAP!
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - MWC Tex - 08-09-2019 08:42 PM
(08-09-2019 08:15 PM)Wedge Wrote:(08-09-2019 06:00 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: Which D3 schools have large enrollments?
NYU (26,000 undergraduates) and UC Santa Cruz (17,000) must be among the largest. No reason for either to be in Division I athletics.
UT Dallas had 19k undergraduates. They could probably pull it off and perhaps an invite to the WAC.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Mav - 08-09-2019 09:32 PM
(08-09-2019 05:52 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote: Does the Summit League actually want St Thomas? Wouldn’t they rather have some of the Minnesota state schools?Of course, but they'd have to drop football to move up and they have a really nice thing going in the NSIC. Hockey drives the bus at those schools, but football still has strong support and they don't want to kill that to join a low-end D1 conference.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - DavidSt - 08-09-2019 09:54 PM
(08-09-2019 03:42 PM)jacksfan29 Wrote:(08-09-2019 01:22 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: Good news for the Summit if NCAA allows it. Every school in that league would prefer the Tommies over Augustana.
St. Thomas, unlike Augustana would be successful in D1. 10K students, metro area, strong alumni base, large endowment. What is their not to like.
The fact that Augustana, with fewer then 2K enrollment, tiny endowment and a small alumni base are even considering D1 only goes to show that not all University Presidents have a clue.
Like I said in another thread. There are danger signs that a lot of small private schools are closing which many D2 schools are moving up to D1 for a safe landing spot. Northeast, midwest and northern plains will have the issues.
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - TDenverFan - 08-09-2019 10:39 PM
(08-09-2019 08:15 PM)Wedge Wrote:(08-09-2019 06:00 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: Which D3 schools have large enrollments?
NYU (26,000 undergraduates) and UC Santa Cruz (17,000) must be among the largest. No reason for either to be in Division I athletics.
Not that they have any ambition to do it, but I don't really see any major differences between Santa Cruz and the other UCs in the Big West
RE: Fasttracking St. Thomas straight from D3 to D1? - Nerdlinger - 08-09-2019 10:45 PM
Well, if Augustana makes the jump to DI, then there's a nice spot for St. Thomas in the NSIC. Since there's no DII hockey championship, I guess St. Thomas would have to go DI in that sport though.