(06-28-2019 02:01 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  Christopher Lambert
‏ @theDudeofWV

If I were to post TV ratings for ACC conf games without naming the participants along with similarly formatted data from the AAC you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference from the AAC & ACC except for FSU & Clemson.
11:06 AM - 27 Jun 2019 from West Virginia, USA

The AAC has more upside due to

DMAs,
Locations in areas interested in football, and
Trajectories.

(06-28-2019 08:18 PM)Shannon Panther Wrote:  Just like his preposterous realignment scoops of years ago, he makes an assertion but the sources are "confidential". In this case, he says if he posted it and then doesn't.

(06-28-2019 08:56 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Was it ever found out that theDudeofWV and Tuxedo Yoda were the same guy?

(06-29-2019 04:23 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  On the surface his claim is legit.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
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The area where the AAC falls short is consistency. We had several games that had n.a. listed instead of a number of viewers. I assumed that meant a number so low it was not worth computing/reporting...but one of those games was on ABC, which doesn't make sense. Those games were...

Tulane-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
SMU-UCF (ESPNU)
ECU-Temple (ESPNews)
SMU-Tulane (ESPNU)
Cincinnati-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Tulane-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Memphis-ECU (ESPNU)
Navy-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
Houston-SMU (ESPNU)
Tulsa-Memphis (ESPNU)
USF-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
ECU-Tulane (ESPNews)
Houston-Memphis (ABC) ???
Temple-UCONN (ESPNU)
Navy-Tulane (ESPNU)

(06-29-2019 05:02 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 04:23 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  On the surface his claim is legit.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
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The area where the AAC falls short is consistency. We had several games that had n.a. listed instead of a number of viewers. I assumed that meant a number so low it was not worth computing/reporting...but one of those games was on ABC, which doesn't make sense. Those games were...

Tulane-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
SMU-UCF (ESPNU)
ECU-Temple (ESPNews)
SMU-Tulane (ESPNU)
Cincinnati-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Tulane-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Memphis-ECU (ESPNU)
Navy-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
Houston-SMU (ESPNU)
Tulsa-Memphis (ESPNU)
USF-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
ECU-Tulane (ESPNews)
Houston-Memphis (ABC) ???
Temple-UCONN (ESPNU)
Navy-Tulane (ESPNU)

First off, thanks for doing the legwork on this. I kept looking at this and saying "not today."
Second, those n.a. COULD mean no measurable viewing...for some, especially News and U games...but as you note, doesn't fly for an ABC Black Friday game. Basically, the Mouse just reported less out this year compared to previous. Thats ultimately SMW's source, so Paulsen is dependent on what they put out.
Third, a reason I didnt get started was how do you TRULY compare - timeslot, network, etc?
Fourth, if we take away their top performers and still compare our top...thats not a discussion I want to jump into. Anyone else remember the G4 trying to make some case about the AAC East WITHOUT UCF being below the MVC in Sagarin (all the while the G4 division he was honking actually WAS below the MVC at full strength)?

(06-29-2019 06:50 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 05:02 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 04:23 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  On the surface his claim is legit.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
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.
.


The area where the AAC falls short is consistency. We had several games that had n.a. listed instead of a number of viewers. I assumed that meant a number so low it was not worth computing/reporting...but one of those games was on ABC, which doesn't make sense. Those games were...

Tulane-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
SMU-UCF (ESPNU)
ECU-Temple (ESPNews)
SMU-Tulane (ESPNU)
Cincinnati-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Tulane-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Memphis-ECU (ESPNU)
Navy-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
Houston-SMU (ESPNU)
Tulsa-Memphis (ESPNU)
USF-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
ECU-Tulane (ESPNews)
Houston-Memphis (ABC) ???
Temple-UCONN (ESPNU)
Navy-Tulane (ESPNU)

First off, thanks for doing the legwork on this. I kept looking at this and saying "not today."
Second, those n.a. COULD mean no measurable viewing...for some, especially News and U games...but as you note, doesn't fly for an ABC Black Friday game. Basically, the Mouse just reported less out this year compared to previous. Thats ultimately SMW's source, so Paulsen is dependent on what they put out.
Third, a reason I didnt get started was how do you TRULY compare - timeslot, network, etc?
Fourth, if we take away their top performers and still compare our top...thats not a discussion I want to jump into. Anyone else remember the G4 trying to make some case about the AAC East WITHOUT UCF being below the MVC in Sagarin (all the while the G4 division he was honking actually WAS below the MVC at full strength)?

Thanks. Agree with your sentiments.

In addition to the one weak area I brought up (14 or 15 games with viewership low enough to be listed as n.a.), you brought up the other major AAC weakness. At the top end, the AAC had four regular season conference games over 1 million, with a high of 3.098 million.

Meanwhile, the ACC had 14 conference games over one million, with five of them ranging between 3.55 million and 5.5 million).

Overall, the 2018 season analysis give us strong positives to build from.
- Memphis vs Tulane on ESPN 2 drew more viewers than Miami vs VT on ESPN.
- UCF vs USF drew 700K more viewers than Pitt vs Miami on the same network (ESPN)
- UCF vs Cincinnati drew significantly more viewers than at least two Clemson conference games on the same network.

This and many other examples show the relevance of the AAC is increasing and drawing more interest.

(06-30-2019 10:41 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 06:50 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 05:02 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(06-29-2019 04:23 PM)Square Knight Wrote:  On the surface his claim is legit.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/college-football-tv-ratings/
.
.
.


The area where the AAC falls short is consistency. We had several games that had n.a. listed instead of a number of viewers. I assumed that meant a number so low it was not worth computing/reporting...but one of those games was on ABC, which doesn't make sense. Those games were...

Tulane-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
SMU-UCF (ESPNU)
ECU-Temple (ESPNews)
SMU-Tulane (ESPNU)
Cincinnati-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Tulane-Tulsa (ESPNU)
Memphis-ECU (ESPNU)
Navy-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
Houston-SMU (ESPNU)
Tulsa-Memphis (ESPNU)
USF-Cincinnati (ESPNU)
ECU-Tulane (ESPNews)
Houston-Memphis (ABC) ???
Temple-UCONN (ESPNU)
Navy-Tulane (ESPNU)

First off, thanks for doing the legwork on this. I kept looking at this and saying "not today."
Second, those n.a. COULD mean no measurable viewing...for some, especially News and U games...but as you note, doesn't fly for an ABC Black Friday game. Basically, the Mouse just reported less out this year compared to previous. Thats ultimately SMW's source, so Paulsen is dependent on what they put out.
Third, a reason I didnt get started was how do you TRULY compare - timeslot, network, etc?
Fourth, if we take away their top performers and still compare our top...thats not a discussion I want to jump into. Anyone else remember the G4 trying to make some case about the AAC East WITHOUT UCF being below the MVC in Sagarin (all the while the G4 division he was honking actually WAS below the MVC at full strength)?

Thanks. Agree with your sentiments.

In addition to the one weak area I brought up (14 or 15 games with viewership low enough to be listed as n.a.), you brought up the other major AAC weakness. At the top end, the AAC had four regular season conference games over 1 million, with a high of 3.098 million.

Meanwhile, the ACC had 14 conference games over one million, with five of them ranging between 3.55 million and 5.5 million).

Overall, the 2018 season analysis give us strong positives to build from.
- Memphis vs Tulane on ESPN 2 drew more viewers than Miami vs VT on ESPN.
- UCF vs USF drew 700K more viewers than Pitt vs Miami on the same network (ESPN)
- UCF vs Cincinnati drew significantly more viewers than at least two Clemson conference games on the same network.

This and many other examples show the relevance of the AAC is increasing and drawing more interest.

That's the thing. Everybody only looks at top end. Networks pay for the whole conference, and half of our games don't seem to be worth tracking in the ratings dept.

(07-01-2019 10:48 AM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  Reverse mirror games make it difficult to suss out ratings per game. The UCF/Memphis game paired with Washington and Oregon drew 2.99M on ABC and 341k on ESPN2. USF and Houston similarly drew 2.35M on ABC and 315k on ESPN2 paired with ASU/USC.