(01-28-2019 06:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This is awesome...ha ha


Quinn Blair (35 pts) up to 303, passing Andrew Pavloff, Adam Dutton, Jeremy Dean, and others.

Mehkel Harvey (12 pts) up to T-360, passing Greg Taylor, Dave Fiscella, Andy Becouvarakis, and Sam Swindell.

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(01-28-2019 07:34 PM)Tribe32 Wrote:  Where did you get those numbers? I'm really interested in looking up some older players.

(01-28-2019 03:37 PM)Mrs. Got Ribe Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:34 PM)Rocco Wrote:  He should however be told to hire an assistant coach who lives and breathes defense. If it means the hoops team has to sell cookies door-to-door to pay for the coach, so be it.

I am soooooo on board with this.

(01-28-2019 10:30 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  ... but Charleston might get a lot of calls in the tournament.

(01-28-2019 06:16 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 10:30 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Finally, Nathan is having a very good season. We lament here that he should get the ball every possession as if he would score 50+. But, teams are already trying to double team him in spots. There are other times that he has an opening and passes instead to a wide open teammate who misses the shot. But, it is still a good play. His passing has greatly improved and he played very hard Saturday. I just hope the guys can rally together with the coaches and get a win Thursday. It is not like they aren't trying or giving up.

I don't think we are necessarily demanding he get 50 points per game, but he should be touching the ball at least once on every possession. I feel like when we go on our scoring droughts, the ball rarely goes to him in the post and we just do our aimless passing around the perimeter for 20 seconds before jacking up a low percentage 3

(01-28-2019 11:42 PM)TribeInTheBurg Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 06:16 PM)WMtribe17 Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 10:30 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  Finally, Nathan is having a very good season. We lament here that he should get the ball every possession as if he would score 50+. But, teams are already trying to double team him in spots. There are other times that he has an opening and passes instead to a wide open teammate who misses the shot. But, it is still a good play. His passing has greatly improved and he played very hard Saturday. I just hope the guys can rally together with the coaches and get a win Thursday. It is not like they aren't trying or giving up.

I don't think we are necessarily demanding he get 50 points per game, but he should be touching the ball at least once on every possession. I feel like when we go on our scoring droughts, the ball rarely goes to him in the post and we just do our aimless passing around the perimeter for 20 seconds before jacking up a low percentage 3

I would argue that we're not lamenting that Knight doesn't get the ball every possession, but that we're lamenting he doesn't get the ball in the low post every possession. He is an excellent passer, and few teams bring a double-team that can smother his passing lanes. Nobody would be upset if he scored 0 and had 15 assists, but he's not getting those chances either.

(01-28-2019 09:46 PM)Zorch Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 10:30 AM)TribePride91 Wrote:  ... but Charleston might get a lot of calls in the tournament.

Um, YEAH! In fact, the conspiracy theorist in me already believes that Charleston got so many calls their way against us last Saturday because the league has to ensure that the Cougars finish top 4 in the league (and absolutely top 6) in order to ensure hopefully at least 2 games (and 2 larger crowds) at the tournament. If we had beaten them, the Cougs risked falling behind a bunch of teams in the standings. We'll see how it plays out ...but if CofC does not represent well in the tournament then the only hope for attendance would be UNCW or W&M making it to the finals.

(Rocco can feel free to ignore the previous paragraph).

(01-28-2019 07:46 PM)wml33t Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 03:37 PM)Mrs. Got Ribe Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 01:34 PM)Rocco Wrote:  He should however be told to hire an assistant coach who lives and breathes defense. If it means the hoops team has to sell cookies door-to-door to pay for the coach, so be it.

I am soooooo on board with this.

With the assistant or the cookies?

(01-29-2019 03:28 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  OK. Where’s the money?

We don’t even have the money for a GA. Personally, I thought retaining Harrison this year to help Knight’s low post skills would have been a great idea. (Not interested in a position for Rowley next year.)

Given how underpaid Shaver is, it’s a miracle we’ve retained Holmes.

If you want to hire a Rocco-approved assistant co-head coach you need to pay bucks. I’m not sure firing Holmes to open up that position would open up sufficient salary.

Without increased funding from W&M, and the development of a robust booster club, we’re whistling in the dark. Any assistant coach we could afford would have to be entry-level caliber.

(01-29-2019 04:24 PM)Tribal Wrote:  I won't change it but I really really hate the title of this thread. I think it's disrespectful and sends an awful message.



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(01-29-2019 03:28 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  OK. Where’s the money?

We don’t even have the money for a GA. Personally, I thought retaining Harrison this year to help Knight’s low post skills would have been a great idea. (Not interested in a position for Rowley next year.)

Given how underpaid Shaver is, it’s a miracle we’ve retained Holmes.

If you want to hire a Rocco-approved assistant co-head coach you need to pay bucks. I’m not sure firing Holmes to open up that position would open up sufficient salary.

Without increased funding from W&M, and the development of a robust booster club, we’re whistling in the dark. Any assistant coach we could afford would have to be entry-level caliber.

(01-28-2019 07:38 PM)Tribal Wrote:  L.J. Owens (164 pts) up to 207, passing Adam Trumbower, Bill Kirk, Tom Jancaitis, and Edwin Ofori Attah.

(01-29-2019 08:36 PM)Rocco Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 03:28 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  OK. Where’s the money?

We don’t even have the money for a GA. Personally, I thought retaining Harrison this year to help Knight’s low post skills would have been a great idea. (Not interested in a position for Rowley next year.)

Given how underpaid Shaver is, it’s a miracle we’ve retained Holmes.

If you want to hire a Rocco-approved assistant co-head coach you need to pay bucks. I’m not sure firing Holmes to open up that position would open up sufficient salary.

Without increased funding from W&M, and the development of a robust booster club, we’re whistling in the dark. Any assistant coach we could afford would have to be entry-level caliber.

It happens in one of two ways:

1) The hoops program gets more aggressive in shaking down donors and boosters to get the resources it needs, much like football did;
2) Other athletic teams get axed and the resources diverted to hoops.

Ideally it would be 1). It feels like 2) is inevitable.

(01-28-2019 07:36 PM)mrjoolius Wrote:  

(01-28-2019 06:41 PM)Tribal Wrote:  This is awesome...ha ha


Quinn Blair (35 pts) up to 303, passing Andrew Pavloff, Adam Dutton, Jeremy Dean, and others.

Mehkel Harvey (12 pts) up to T-360, passing Greg Taylor, Dave Fiscella, Andy Becouvarakis, and Sam Swindell.

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Boo.

(02-01-2019 08:24 AM)Pete24 Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 08:36 PM)Rocco Wrote:  

(01-29-2019 03:28 PM)tribeinexile Wrote:  OK. Where’s the money?

We don’t even have the money for a GA. Personally, I thought retaining Harrison this year to help Knight’s low post skills would have been a great idea. (Not interested in a position for Rowley next year.)

Given how underpaid Shaver is, it’s a miracle we’ve retained Holmes.

If you want to hire a Rocco-approved assistant co-head coach you need to pay bucks. I’m not sure firing Holmes to open up that position would open up sufficient salary.

Without increased funding from W&M, and the development of a robust booster club, we’re whistling in the dark. Any assistant coach we could afford would have to be entry-level caliber.

It happens in one of two ways:

1) The hoops program gets more aggressive in shaking down donors and boosters to get the resources it needs, much like football did;
2) Other athletic teams get axed and the resources diverted to hoops.

Ideally it would be 1). It feels like 2) is inevitable.

With regard to point #2 "Other athletic teams get axed and the resources diverted to hoops."

My son is a senior student-athlete in one of the "other" sports you reference. I've come to see first-hand that the alum (and their parents) from these "other" sports are some of the biggest W&M athletic donors. And most successful alum -- who continue to give back to W&M.
And you may not know this, but a few of these "other" sports have actually built their own personal endowments ... some of them well over million dollars. This protects them from being cut. For example, when W&M cut swimming and wrestling back in the 90's, there was a huge amount of financial donations from swimming alum and supporters to keep the program afloat and this fund continues to protect the sport from being cut.