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OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tomball Owl - 01-01-2019 01:08 PM
First a sold out Garth Brooks concert. Now sold out NHL hockey.
I like the model.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Fort Bend Owl - 01-01-2019 01:33 PM
I think Rice Stadium would sell out for an NHL game (or a Garth Brooks concert). Of course the hockey might be tricky in water. And Garth already played the rodeo a few times last year (and is he set to do it again in 2019?).
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tomball Owl - 01-01-2019 01:41 PM
Seeing the players walking down the ramp from Patterson in skates could be interesting.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - That Guy 2012 - 01-01-2019 01:53 PM
(01-01-2019 01:33 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: I think Rice Stadium would sell out for an NHL game (or a Garth Brooks concert). Of course the hockey might be tricky in water. And Garth already played the rodeo a few times last year (and is he set to do it again in 2019?).
A compelling image to be sure, but an unlikely one. The NHL had an outdoor exhibition in Las Vegas on a 95 degree in September of 1991 on reportedly good ice. Not without a few problems, but ones likely solved by 27 years newer tech.
https://www.msgnetworks.com/videos/looking-back-at-rangers-kings-outdoor-vegas-game-in-91/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_outdoor_NHL_game_in_Las_Vegas
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Owl 69/70/75 - 01-01-2019 02:14 PM
I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tiki Owl - 01-01-2019 02:35 PM
The Classic in 2014 was in Dodger Stadium with a temp of 55 degrees. The trick is to keep the ice temp around 11-15 degrees.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tiki Owl - 01-01-2019 02:44 PM
Interesting innovation by PPG.
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20181210005086/en/PPG-National-Hockey-League-Thermochromic-Puck-Coatings
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tiki Owl - 01-01-2019 03:12 PM
Next year’s game will be at the Cotton Bowl (the Stadium not Jerry’s World).
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - WRCisforgotten79 - 01-01-2019 10:02 PM
(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.
It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Owl 69/70/75 - 01-01-2019 11:26 PM
(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, the question is what constitutes "reasonable accommodation" versus unreasonable. ND determined that the accommodation requested was unreasonable. There are two sides to that argument.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tomball Owl - 01-02-2019 01:18 PM
I guess even the big name programs can have stadium problems.
https://www.cbssports.com/nhl/news/2019-nhl-winter-classic-notre-dame-stadium-apparently-ran-out-of-food-and-beer-midway-through-blackhawks-bruins/
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - WRCisforgotten79 - 01-02-2019 02:13 PM
(01-01-2019 11:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, the question is what constitutes "reasonable accommodation" versus unreasonable. ND determined that the accommodation requested was unreasonable. There are two sides to that argument.
Simply stating that there are two sides to an argument does not mean that there are two reasonable sides to an argument. "The Earth is round" and "The Earth is flat" are not two reasonable sides. Notre Dame's unilateral decision that it was reasonable is like a certain temporary AD deciding on his own that he had no conflicts of interest.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Owl 69/70/75 - 01-02-2019 02:37 PM
(01-02-2019 02:13 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:(01-01-2019 11:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:Simply stating that there are two sides to an argument does not mean that there are two reasonable sides to an argument. "The Earth is round" and "The Earth is flat" are not two reasonable sides. Notre Dame's unilateral decision that it was reasonable is like a certain temporary AD deciding on his own that he had no conflicts of interest.(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, the question is what constitutes "reasonable accommodation" versus unreasonable. ND determined that the accommodation requested was unreasonable. There are two sides to that argument.
"Reasonable accommodation" can be a very nebulous term. I'd say there is way more room for disagreement here than for your "round/flat" proposition, which is therefore not a reasonably applicable hypothetical. Notre Dame's "unilateral" decision could have been challenged by the student, who apparently chose not to do so.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Almadenmike - 01-02-2019 08:53 PM
(01-01-2019 11:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, ...
To what situation is WRC referencing?
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Owl 69/70/75 - 01-02-2019 09:36 PM
(01-02-2019 08:53 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:(01-01-2019 11:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:To what situation is WRC referencing?(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, ...
There was apparently a HS senior who wanted to attend ND who was epileptic. He was accepted, and then on his doctor's advice requested a solo room as an accommodation for his epilepsy. ND refused. The student subsequently went elsewhere.
I'm surprised you didn't find this, with your legendary browsing expertise.
https://www.statnews.com/2018/10/25/epilepsy-discrimination-ada-undue-burden/
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Almadenmike - 01-03-2019 12:40 PM
(01-02-2019 09:36 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:(01-02-2019 08:53 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:(01-01-2019 11:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:To what situation is WRC referencing?(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote:Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.(01-01-2019 02:14 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I have to say, I have never been a ND fan. But after making the alumni trip in 2014, the way we were treated has caused me to become something of a fan. Really an outstanding experience.It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, ...
There was apparently a HS senior who wanted to attend ND who was epileptic. He was accepted, and then on his doctor's advice requested a solo room as an accommodation for his epilepsy. ND refused. The student subsequently went elsewhere.
I'm surprised you didn't find this, with your legendary browsing expertise.
https://www.statnews.com/2018/10/25/epilepsy-discrimination-ada-undue-burden/
I'm sure I could have, but at that time I didn't want to look around and post an article/link asking WRC "is this what you were referring to"?
It's much more helpful when folks post complete info themselves -- rather than just inference -- when they introduce a new aspect to a thread/conversation. :-)
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Da.Owl - 01-03-2019 07:01 PM
There will be no 50,000 + attendance events held at Rice. Parking and facilities can not support these activities.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Owl 69/70/75 - 01-03-2019 07:10 PM
(01-03-2019 12:40 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:(01-02-2019 09:36 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:I'm sure I could have, but at that time I didn't want to look around and post an article/link asking WRC "is this what you were referring to"?(01-02-2019 08:53 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:There was apparently a HS senior who wanted to attend ND who was epileptic. He was accepted, and then on his doctor's advice requested a solo room as an accommodation for his epilepsy. ND refused. The student subsequently went elsewhere.(01-01-2019 11:26 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:To what situation is WRC referencing?(01-01-2019 10:02 PM)WRCisforgotten79 Wrote: It's great unless you're a freshman with epilepsy. Then, you're nobody.Well, I wasn't a freshman with epilepsy, so I wouldn't know.
As for the situation that you appear to be referencing, ...
I'm surprised you didn't find this, with your legendary browsing expertise.
https://www.statnews.com/2018/10/25/epilepsy-discrimination-ada-undue-burden/
It's much more helpful when folks post complete info themselves -- rather than just inference -- when they introduce a new aspect to a thread/conversation. :-)
Well, keep in mind, at the time I posted I was only guessing as to what WRC had in mind. I just googled Notre Dame, epilepsy, and freshman. And obviously, that had nothing to do with the football experience.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - Tomball Owl - 01-03-2019 07:19 PM
(01-03-2019 07:01 PM)Da.Owl Wrote: There will be no 50,000 + attendance events held at Rice. Parking and facilities can not support these activities.
Not sure there is much more parking at Notre Dame (or most other campus) Stadium than at HRS. Buses/Metro Rail can be used to move spectators from remote parking.
Invest in the facilities already. Spend money to make money.
RE: OT - New business model for Notre Dame Stadium? - greyowl72 - 01-03-2019 07:33 PM
(01-03-2019 07:19 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:(01-03-2019 07:01 PM)Da.Owl Wrote: There will be no 50,000 + attendance events held at Rice. Parking and facilities can not support these activities.
Not sure there is much more parking at Notre Dame (or most other campus) Stadium than at HRS. Buses/Metro Rail can be used to move spectators from remote parking.
Invest in the facilities already. Spend money to make money.
I agree. I don't think the parking at ND stadium is that great at all. At least not from what I remember.