(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

(03-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Just to give you guys an idea of what's going on at UNCW, our 3 finalists are rumored to be the following:

* Rob Burke (current Interim HC)
* Takayo Siddle (former UNCW assistant, current top assistant at NC State under Keatts)
* Seth Greenberg

Siddle was confirmed to be on campus interviewing yesterday, so there appears to at least be SOME truth to the rumors.

Seth Greenberg was the keynote speaker at UNCW's Kickoff Dinner in 2016 (when Keatts was still here), so there's a connection there as well, and not just someone throwing his name out there like they do whenever a mid-major job opens up.

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

(03-03-2020 10:46 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

I have a student at JMU. Nobody even considers going to a basketball game. By contrast, football is seen as an event and an experience worth participating in. When I was at JMU it was the exact opposite.

(03-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Just to give you guys an idea of what's going on at UNCW, our 3 finalists are rumored to be the following:

* Rob Burke (current Interim HC)
* Takayo Siddle (former UNCW assistant, current top assistant at NC State under Keatts)
* Seth Greenberg

Siddle was confirmed to be on campus interviewing yesterday, so there appears to at least be SOME truth to the rumors.

Seth Greenberg was the keynote speaker at UNCW's Kickoff Dinner in 2016 (when Keatts was still here), so there's a connection there as well, and not just someone throwing his name out there like the media does whenever a mid-major job opens up.

(03-03-2020 11:26 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Well, we can certainly do worse than UNCW leftovers.

(03-03-2020 10:49 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  Just to give you guys an idea of what's going on at UNCW, our 3 finalists are rumored to be the following:

* Rob Burke (current Interim HC)
* Takayo Siddle (former UNCW assistant, current top assistant at NC State under Keatts)
* Seth Greenberg

Siddle was confirmed to be on campus interviewing yesterday, so there appears to at least be SOME truth to the rumors.

Seth Greenberg was the keynote speaker at UNCW's Kickoff Dinner in 2016 (when Keatts was still here), so there's a connection there as well, and not just someone throwing his name out there like the media does whenever a mid-major job opens up.

(03-03-2020 11:07 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

They are going to sporting events at JMU in greater numbers than they use to, other than Men's basketball. At one time we had 6,000 fans go to Men's JMU basketball games. Now we have about 500 that attend a non book club, last convo game.

Are you really going to argue the poor attendance is "just kids these days", and not primarily the lack of success of the program? It's not just a component - lack of success is the driver of poor attendance.

Attendance is down across the nation in athletic events, but that is not why Men's basketball is down.

(03-03-2020 11:23 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:46 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

I have a student at JMU. Nobody even considers going to a basketball game. By contrast, football is seen as an event and an experience worth participating in. When I was at JMU it was the exact opposite.

The experience, that's the key. Much like the NBA has transformed itself into an experience vs a sporting contest, a successful team and an exciting experience will establish the game as the "place to be". Kids will go because other kids go, not because they care about the game of basketball. Our leaders need to attend some competitive ACC and Big East games. They need help.

(03-03-2020 12:23 PM)KickItToScotty Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 11:23 AM)2Buck Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:46 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

I have a student at JMU. Nobody even considers going to a basketball game. By contrast, football is seen as an event and an experience worth participating in. When I was at JMU it was the exact opposite.

The experience, that's the key. Much like the NBA has transformed itself into an experience vs a sporting contest, a successful team and an exciting experience will establish the game as the "place to be". Kids will go because other kids go, not because they care about the game of basketball. Our leaders need to attend some competitive ACC and Big East games. They need help.

That’s one thing that would certainly help besides winning. I remember the first Wizards game I ever went to, after having been to tons and tons of Redskins games. It was night and day the effort the Wizards put in to making it a fun and entertaining night while the Redskins was just the game. Not that “just the game” isn’t enough but it did kind of made it feel like the Wizards cared a lot more about the fans getting their money’s worth while Snyder cared a lot more about sucking every dollar he could out of the fans without putting anything more than the minimum in to it.

It won’t do any good without winning though. A 2-16 team isn’t filling arenas ever and upping the experience without winning would be a bit of a waste.

Oh and Hyper, no worries. Coming right after replies about Bennett assistants it seemed much more direct than you obviously meant it to be.

(03-03-2020 10:46 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

I have a student at JMU. Nobody even considers going to a basketball game. By contrast, football is seen as an event and an experience worth participating in. When I was at JMU it was the exact opposite.

(03-02-2020 04:12 PM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(03-02-2020 02:39 PM)2Buck Wrote:  Let's be clear- there have been, and always will be, plenty of great head coaches among the ranks of D1 assistants. Our leadership just sucks at finding them.

Bash the admin all you want, but at least try to list some coaching names.

(03-03-2020 10:28 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:16 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 07:15 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If JMU fails to get a splash hire they could go for plan B and target Nathan Davis. He has made the NCAA 2 of his 5 years at Bucknell while finishing first in the regular season 4 of 5 years.
And he only has one losing season in 11 years as a head coach - this year. That probably takes him off the hot list for P7 programs and puts him in JMU’s pool.

Nathan Davis is a great name to throw out. He is definitely the type of candidate we need to pursue.

This is about the caliber I'm expecting. This would certainly be an upgrade, but I'm "hoping" for someone that would bring more excitement, but not expecting it.

(03-03-2020 01:57 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:28 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:16 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 07:15 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If JMU fails to get a splash hire they could go for plan B and target Nathan Davis. He has made the NCAA 2 of his 5 years at Bucknell while finishing first in the regular season 4 of 5 years.
And he only has one losing season in 11 years as a head coach - this year. That probably takes him off the hot list for P7 programs and puts him in JMU’s pool.

Nathan Davis is a great name to throw out. He is definitely the type of candidate we need to pursue.

This is about the caliber I'm expecting. This would certainly be an upgrade, but I'm "hoping" for someone that would bring more excitement, but not expecting it.

Great call on Nathan Davis. From Washington DC coaches at Randolph Macon prior to Bucknell. 2 25+ win seasons as a D1 coach, 2 NCAA appearances .636% win percentage.

(03-03-2020 01:31 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:46 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

I have a student at JMU. Nobody even considers going to a basketball game. By contrast, football is seen as an event and an experience worth participating in. When I was at JMU it was the exact opposite.

When I was at Madison, I lived in Jackson Hall! I went to all the basketball games.

(03-03-2020 02:11 PM)Dukes84 Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 01:57 PM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:28 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:16 AM)Rock House Duke Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 07:15 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  If JMU fails to get a splash hire they could go for plan B and target Nathan Davis. He has made the NCAA 2 of his 5 years at Bucknell while finishing first in the regular season 4 of 5 years.
And he only has one losing season in 11 years as a head coach - this year. That probably takes him off the hot list for P7 programs and puts him in JMU’s pool.

Nathan Davis is a great name to throw out. He is definitely the type of candidate we need to pursue.

This is about the caliber I'm expecting. This would certainly be an upgrade, but I'm "hoping" for someone that would bring more excitement, but not expecting it.

Great call on Nathan Davis. From Washington DC coaches at Randolph Macon prior to Bucknell. 2 25+ win seasons as a D1 coach, 2 NCAA appearances .636% win percentage.

And he's in Goodman's list that I posted.

(03-03-2020 01:31 PM)BSKB 24 Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:46 AM)JacksonHall Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 10:34 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:41 AM)Dukester Wrote:  

(03-03-2020 09:04 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  With respect to Dunk's passion for the crowd and the game, man that would be great to pack the place to the rafters but it's important to acknowledge that "kids these days" aren't into sports the way some of us were. It's a lame shame but I hope it comes back full circle sometime soon where the next gen of students decides it's more fun to be out with people instead of being one with their phones and digital socialsphere

Why has our students attendance in football doubled the last 20 years?

Why has our students attendance in Women's basketball more than doubled in the last 15 years?

Why did they need to add additional stands for Softball?

Why has student attendance in Men's basketball gone down about 90% the last 20 years?

Does "kids these days" only apply to Men's Basketball?

I do remember on here as many others do:
- students filling the 4 bleachers at the ends of the court
- students filling the bleachers on the top ends of the court (where band sits)
- students filling the upper side bleachers
- announcer asking students to slide closer together so everyone would have a seat.
- you know those little bleachers in the top 4 or 5 rows on the sides? They filled those too.

And this is when we had half the enrollment.

Do the "Kid's these days" not attend VCU? - because they show up for their games.


It's not the kids these days. It's the success these days. It's the lack of investment in coaches. It's the lack of investment in entertainment. We used to pay a lot for half time entertainment. We had quick-change, bucket boys, the slam dunk guys, etc.

you're kidding yourself if you don't acknowledge that young adults aren't going to sporting events in the numbers that they used to. Winning/success is a component of it sure, but the percentage of folks going to games is not climbing for the majority of athletic programs around the country.

I have a student at JMU. Nobody even considers going to a basketball game. By contrast, football is seen as an event and an experience worth participating in. When I was at JMU it was the exact opposite.

When I was at Madison, I lived in Jackson Hall! I went to all the basketball games.