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RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - olddawg - 03-07-2019 01:23 PM
(03-07-2019 11:57 AM)JMU Wrote: Isn't it true that as long as JMU's RPI is in the crapper, we'll not have too much of a robust OOC schedule? We are OOC opponent team's RPI killer.
Lotta truth there. It's a vicious circle sometimes in the scheduling game. Gotta hope enough of the regionals just view us a tune up game so they'll overlook the rating drain.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Dukes84 - 03-07-2019 02:54 PM
Will Wade might be available.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - RamDawg - 03-07-2019 04:30 PM
(03-07-2019 02:54 PM)Dukes84 Wrote: Will Wade might be available.
I wonder if there's a NCAA rule keeping someone from coaching from behind bars?
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Hart Foundation - 03-08-2019 08:17 AM
Something else to consider if Rowe doesn’t pull off 4 wins in 4 days...
His contract started at $260,000 annually which we now see as being way Overpaid for the results he has delivered. Brady’s last year was $302,000.
Assuming annual raises would have been similar for both, JMU saved about $126,000 over the course of 3 years. Relative to where we were in 2016, JMU really only has to find $150,000 somewhere in the budget to make the change after the season.
Of course, while there has been a financial savings for salary, there has been a massive negative financial impact on the program. Ticket sales/attendance are atrocious and fundraising for the new arena has been hampered.
When looking at the big picture, it is too costly to Keep Rowe.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - nyduke - 03-08-2019 08:25 AM
Hart,
Very interesting take and after seeing it that way an embarrassing loss to Towson and it could be over.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - NJDuke97 - 03-08-2019 08:39 AM
Do you know the fund raising/ arena part to be true? If so that could be an impetus to change sooner. To be honest I’ve always thought you exaggerated that piece because you didn’t like the Brady firing and the Rowe hire.
If you are speculating/exaggerating on that piece I don’t see the real financial downside of giving Rowe a fourth year prior to the new arena opening- the difference in attendance will be negligible. I sense we may see a road heavy OOC next year in preparation for maximum home games in 20-21.
20-21 is the game changer for me- going into that season JMU needs to know 100% that Rowe is the guy and the program has turned the corner or else you need to go a different direction.
Btw if Jmu wanted to explore Pat Kelsey at Winthrop his season is over after losing in the first round of the Big South tournament yesterday. He has a good recruiting class coming in and he spurned Umass a couple of seasons ago. Umass is in pretty bad shape and Matt McCall (formerly of Chattanooga) is struggling there.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - JMad03 - 03-08-2019 08:54 AM
(03-08-2019 08:17 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote: Something else to consider if Rowe doesn’t pull off 4 wins in 4 days...
His contract started at $260,000 annually which we now see as being way Overpaid for the results he has delivered. Brady’s last year was $302,000.
Assuming annual raises would have been similar for both, JMU saved about $126,000 over the course of 3 years. Relative to where we were in 2016, JMU really only has to find $150,000 somewhere in the budget to make the change after the season.
Of course, while there has been a financial savings for salary, there has been a massive negative financial impact on the program. Ticket sales/attendance are atrocious and fundraising for the new arena has been hampered.
When looking at the big picture, it is too costly to Keep Rowe.
While I agree with you, I don't think the admin sees it that way. If they fire Rowe now, it will be admitting that they made a huge mistake and I don't think they're ready to admit that.
Hire a coach with experience as a head coach and has been successful as a head coach.
It's still head scratching to me how little they have learned from their past mistakes. We deserve exactly what we are getting and the admin needs to go down with this ship.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Deez Nuts - 03-08-2019 09:38 AM
(03-08-2019 08:54 AM)JMad03 Wrote:(03-08-2019 08:17 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote: Something else to consider if Rowe doesn’t pull off 4 wins in 4 days...
His contract started at $260,000 annually which we now see as being way Overpaid for the results he has delivered. Brady’s last year was $302,000.
Assuming annual raises would have been similar for both, JMU saved about $126,000 over the course of 3 years. Relative to where we were in 2016, JMU really only has to find $150,000 somewhere in the budget to make the change after the season.
Of course, while there has been a financial savings for salary, there has been a massive negative financial impact on the program. Ticket sales/attendance are atrocious and fundraising for the new arena has been hampered.
When looking at the big picture, it is too costly to Keep Rowe.
While I agree with you, I don't think the admin sees it that way. If they fire Rowe now, it will be admitting that they made a huge mistake and I don't think they're ready to admit that.
Hire a coach with experience as a head coach and has been successful as a head coach.
It's still head scratching to me how little they have learned from their past mistakes. We deserve exactly what we are getting and the admin needs to go down with this ship.
JMU has the winning-est sports program in Virginia and our endowment is increasing more than it has under any previous president, but by all means crucify the people at the top because the basketball program at an educational institution has flopped for two decades.
It's not all flowers and daisies but it's a pretty good time to be a JMU Duke.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - JMad03 - 03-08-2019 10:00 AM
(03-08-2019 09:38 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:(03-08-2019 08:54 AM)JMad03 Wrote:(03-08-2019 08:17 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote: Something else to consider if Rowe doesn’t pull off 4 wins in 4 days...
His contract started at $260,000 annually which we now see as being way Overpaid for the results he has delivered. Brady’s last year was $302,000.
Assuming annual raises would have been similar for both, JMU saved about $126,000 over the course of 3 years. Relative to where we were in 2016, JMU really only has to find $150,000 somewhere in the budget to make the change after the season.
Of course, while there has been a financial savings for salary, there has been a massive negative financial impact on the program. Ticket sales/attendance are atrocious and fundraising for the new arena has been hampered.
When looking at the big picture, it is too costly to Keep Rowe.
While I agree with you, I don't think the admin sees it that way. If they fire Rowe now, it will be admitting that they made a huge mistake and I don't think they're ready to admit that.
Hire a coach with experience as a head coach and has been successful as a head coach.
It's still head scratching to me how little they have learned from their past mistakes. We deserve exactly what we are getting and the admin needs to go down with this ship.
JMU has the winning-est sports program in Virginia and our endowment is increasing more than it has under any previous president, but by all means crucify the people at the top because the basketball program at an educational institution has flopped for two decades.
It's not all flowers and daisies but it's a pretty good time to be a JMU Duke.
I'm not saying the admin should be fired. I should have used a better term, but it just baffles me how they can get practically everything right with JMU athletics, but when it comes to Men's Basketball (and baseball to a degree) they throw all of that out the window. They have crushed it with so many great hires across the board. They hire the right way. They go after coaches that win.
Except when it comes to men's basketball.
And that's why I don't give them a pass. They know better, because they do it the right way with practically all the other sports.
Do I think they should be fired? Absolutely not! But they need to be accountable for their mistakes. I feel like this could have been prevented. That's why I say we are getting what we deserve. When I say "go down with the ship", I mean that they will ride this out with Rowe and in a way deserve to and see the attendance get lower and lower and ticket sales and revenue go down. Perhaps then and only then will they learn.
If JMU athletics wasn't as successful as it is, this could be and would be overlooked. They are a victim of their success. They aren't stupid people which is why I just don't understand how they can get it so right on almost everything else, yet get it so so wrong with men's basketball.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Deez Nuts - 03-08-2019 10:55 AM
fair!
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Hart Foundation - 03-08-2019 02:20 PM
All decisions have consequences.
Let's take a little deeper look at the financial question since some posters think that is the only barrier to making the correct firing/hiring decision.
When comparing the JMU athletics financial reports that were released in January 2016 to the ones released in January 2019, the following statements are true...
1- JMU has increased its annual athletics spending by $6.9 million from $44.8 million to $51.7 million
2- JMU has decreased it annual men's basketball spending by $200,000 ($100,000 of that is due to lower head coach and asst coach compensation)
Can we suggest that the money is indeed there, but is being allocated to other programs in the athletic department? Sure, scholarship prices have gone up and travel costs have increased due to annual inflation, but that doesn't account for all of the $6.9 million increase.
*If you are thinking about the facility debt, it was actually $200,000 lower than 3 years ago.
For reference, the FCS football budget has increased $3.6 million.
The women's basketball budget has increased $150,000. All Other sports budgets combined have increased $1.5 million.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - JMU - 03-08-2019 03:50 PM
Will Wade should be available. lol. Suspended indefinitely by LSU today.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Dukes84 - 03-08-2019 04:17 PM
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/03/08/will-wade-suspension-lsu-recruiting-ncaa-investigation
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - RamDawg - 03-08-2019 04:52 PM
These "budget numbers" for all D1 MBB were posted on RamNation back in March 2017. A correction is that they aren't budget numbers but actual reported expenses. JMU is #110 with $3,483,621 in expenses. According to the financial statement (2016) from JMU's finance website, our revenues for Men's BB were $1,344,399.
Edit: apples and oranges but I looked up VCU's revenues (I could only find 2016) for MBB Total revenue $7,422,169. Expenses $1,201,268.
http://www.apa.virginia.gov/reports/VaCommonwealthUnivNCAA2016.pdf ODU Rev. $2,350,063 Exp. $3,348,329 W&M Rev. $1,358,795 Exp. $1,518,733
Men’s NCAA College Basketball Budgets 2015-16 ($$$ as per the US Department of Education)
1) University of Kentucky 18,910,412
2) University of Louisville 17,900,031
3) Duke University 17,890,632
4) Syracuse University 13,876,720
5) Indiana University-Bloomington 12,129,479
6) University of Arizona 11,761,006
7) Florida State University 11,730,040
8) University of Kansas 11,636,720
9) Georgetown University 11,343,826
10) Marquette University 11,308,266
11) Texas Christian University 11,256,999
12) University of Memphis 11,226,419
13) University of Oklahoma-Norman Campus 10,582,714
14) Michigan State University 10,432,557
15) The University of Texas at Austin 10,271,419
16) University of Wisconsin-Madison 9,834,445
17) University of Connecticut 9,516,308
18) Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University 9,478,661
19) Villanova University 9,447,198
20) West Virginia University 9,322,717
21) Texas A & M University-College Station 9,301,170
22) St John's University-New York 9,167,279
23) Ohio State University-Main Campus 9,142,079
24) University of California-Los Angeles 9,032,540
25) University of Michigan-Ann Arbor 8,920,109
26) Baylor University 8,837,724
27) Auburn University 8,821,985
28) University of Pittsburgh-Pittsburgh Campus 8,799,110
29) North Carolina State University at Raleigh 8,714,435
30) University of Arkansas 8,702,745
31) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill 8,667,111
32) University of California-Berkeley 8,658,628
33) University of Virginia-Main Campus 8,644,445
34) The University of Alabama 8,577,428
35) Vanderbilt University 8,181,142
36) University of Minnesota-Twin Cities 8,156,541
37) University of Utah 8,053,466
38) Providence College 7,907,240
39) University of Oregon 7,785,909
40) Wake Forest University 7,647,068
41) University of Maryland-College Park 7,622,707
42) Oklahoma State University-Main Campus 7,478,661
43) University of Cincinnati-Main Campus 7,421,986
44) Texas Tech University 7,348,405
45) University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 7,341,910
46) University of Nebraska-Lincoln 7,329,386
47) Creighton University 7,264,599
48) Gonzaga University 7,261,657
49) Purdue University-Main Campus 7,243,691
50) University of Iowa 7,218,539
51) University of Mississippi 7,127,529
52) University of Miami 7,118,296
53) Southern Methodist University 7,086,547
54) University of South Carolina-Columbia 7,080,820
55) The University of Tennessee-Knoxville 6,989,935
56) Wichita State University 6,920,933
57) Iowa State University 6,885,453
58) University of Notre Dame 6,816,663
59) Kansas State University 6,772,157
60) Northwestern University 6,771,619
61) University of Florida 6,718,902
62) University of Washington-Seattle Campus 6,453,983
63) Saint Louis University 6,414,061
64) Clemson University 6,403,541
65) University of Georgia 6,338,487
66) Georgia Institute of Technology-Main Campus 6,329,728
67) Louisiana State University and Agricultural & Mechanical College 6,325,362
68) Seton Hall University 6,264,583
69) Arizona State University-Tempe 6,199,000
70) University of Tulsa 6,174,244
71) Rutgers University-New Brunswick 6,147,089
72) University of Colorado Boulder 6,138,058
73) Mississippi State University 6,111,629
74) Brigham Young University-Provo 6,081,807
75) Boston College 6,024,594
76) University of Houston 6,023,125
77) University of Missouri-Columbia 5,963,284
78) Temple University 5,920,903
79) San Diego State University 5,734,713
80) Stanford University 5,727,840
81) Xavier University 5,710,021
82) Virginia Commonwealth University 5,676,415
83) Pennsylvania State University-Main Campus 5,658,177
84) DePaul University 5,569,062
85) Oregon State University 5,498,174
86) University of Nevada-Las Vegas 5,386,263
87) University of Southern California 5,266,779
88) Washington State University 5,118,153
89) University of Dayton 5,000,454
90) University of Richmond 4,849,596
91) Butler University 4,833,565
92) University of South Florida-Main Campus 4,711,026
93) Grand Canyon University 4,306,041
94) University of Rhode Island 4,286,329
95) Colorado State University-Fort Collins 4,264,867
96) Duquesne University 4,229,922
97) Saint Joseph's University 4,208,092
98) University of San Francisco 4,205,606
99) University of Alabama at Birmingham 4,189,826
100) Fordham University 4,126,729
101) University of Massachusetts-Amherst 4,064,482
102) Tulane University of Louisiana 3,987,379
103) University of New Mexico-Main Campus 3,736,179
104) Liberty University 3,720,371
105) University of Wyoming 3,702,699
106) The University of Texas at El Paso 3,623,777
107) Old Dominion University 3,583,117
108) University of Portland 3,570,559
109) Loyola Marymount University 3,533,468
110) James Madison University 3,483,621
111) Rice University 3,427,660
112) Seattle University 3,413,715
113) Utah State University 3,363,296
114) University of Denver 3,361,111
115) Santa Clara University 3,345,588
116) George Mason University 3,342,681
117) University of North Carolina at Charlotte 3,280,507
118) California State University-Fresno 3,234,934
119) East Carolina University 3,187,963
120) University of Central Florida 3,166,282
121) Bradley University 3,128,419
122) Ohio University-Main Campus 3,101,150
123) University of Akron Main Campus 3,088,920
124) Siena College 3,083,128
125) New Mexico State University-Main Campus 3,003,045
126) Saint Mary's College of California 2,956,340
127) Belmont University 2,951,040
128) La Salle University 2,946,555
129) St Bonaventure University 2,917,071
130) George Washington University 2,915,197
131) Northeastern University 2,913,795
132) University of Northern Iowa 2,899,699
133) University of Evansville 2,899,667
134) University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee 2,877,237
135) University of California-Irvine 2,825,452
136) University of Hawaii at Manoa 2,813,078
137) Davidson College 2,799,370
138) Western Kentucky University 2,759,058
139) Loyola University Chicago 2,745,553
140) Oral Roberts University 2,741,483
141) Middle Tennessee State University 2,726,526
142) California State University-Long Beach 2,717,429
143) Valparaiso University 2,666,213
144) Drexel University 2,618,412
145) Florida Atlantic University 2,598,852
146) Fairfield University 2,590,915
147) Pepperdine University 2,561,072
148) University of the Pacific 2,558,711
149) Hofstra University 2,545,499
150) Quinnipiac University 2,516,824
151) University of San Diego 2,513,504
152) Boise State University 2,503,447
153) Drake University 2,472,212
154) University of Detroit Mercy 2,467,735
155) University of California-Santa Barbara 2,453,112
156) Illinois State University 2,452,961
157) Wright State University-Main Campus 2,445,427
158) Louisiana Tech University 2,443,159
159) Stony Brook University 2,435,574
160) University of North Texas 2,433,472
161) College of the Holy Cross 2,403,572
162) Bowling Green State University-Main Campus 2,389,470
163) University of Toledo 2,340,047
164) Marshall University 2,333,564
165) University of Louisiana at Lafayette 2,332,684
166) Miami University-Oxford 2,329,719
167) University of Delaware 2,328,346
168) Iona College 2,308,176
169) University of Nevada-Reno 2,288,942
170) University of Arkansas at Little Rock 2,283,345
171) Missouri State University-Springfield 2,279,917
172) Georgia State University 2,261,334
173) University of Hartford 2,257,904
174) University of North Carolina Wilmington 2,257,718
175) Southern Illinois University-Carbondale 2,241,413
176) University of Illinois at Chicago 2,231,609
177) Murray State University 2,218,712
178) Stephen F Austin State University 2,188,109
179) Western Michigan University 2,183,818
180) College of Charleston 2,180,876
181) Furman University 2,179,662
182) Bucknell University 2,172,546
183) Cleveland State University 2,172,463
184) Kent State University at Kent 2,152,644
185) Oakland University 2,111,833
186) Elon University 2,099,972
187) Manhattan College 2,097,510
188) California Polytechnic State University-San Luis Obispo 2,095,472
189) Boston University 2,093,165
190) California State University-Northridge 2,060,900
191) University at Buffalo 2,054,470
192) Monmouth University 2,054,441
193) Loyola University Maryland 2,048,853
194) Eastern Michigan University 2,031,759
195) Canisius College 2,027,506
196) Towson University 2,016,322
197) Robert Morris University 1,962,797
198) College of William and Mary 1,939,344
199) American University 1,934,639
200) Ball State University 1,905,730
201) Eastern Kentucky University 1,898,072
202) Mercer University 1,883,578
203) Coastal Carolina University 1,882,982
204) Northern Illinois University 1,880,733
205) Marist College 1,865,144
206) University of California-Davis 1,862,783
207) San Jose State University 1,851,101
208) Indiana State University 1,832,975
209) Texas State University 1,824,046
210) New Jersey Institute of Technology 1,823,046
211) University of Idaho 1,821,491
212) Colgate University 1,821,178
213) Samford University 1,821,098
214) East Tennessee State University 1,818,542
215) Lafayette College 1,816,334
216) University of Missouri-Kansas City 1,815,762
217) University of Southern Mississippi 1,808,186
218) LIU Brooklyn 1,805,546
219) Weber State University 1,799,880
220) Bryant University 1,796,753
221) The University of Tennessee-Chattanooga 1,793,638
222) The University of Texas at San Antonio 1,791,403
223) University of Wisconsin-Green Bay 1,776,757
224) Rider University 1,774,910
225) Florida International University 1,773,317
226) Lipscomb University 1,756,611
227) University of South Alabama 1,754,970
228) North Carolina Central University 1,752,803
229) High Point University 1,747,761
230) Florida Gulf Coast University 1,723,011
231) California State University-Bakersfield 1,697,054
232) Fairleigh Dickinson University-Metropolitan Campus 1,695,086
233) Mount St Mary's University 1,687,798
234) Howard University 1,682,347
235) University of California-Riverside 1,680,520
236) Texas A & M University-Corpus Christi 1,680,402
237) Montana State University 1,679,625
238) The University of Montana 1,678,354
239) Jacksonville University 1,653,294
240) Central Michigan University 1,646,267
241) Stetson University 1,623,909
242) Northern Kentucky University 1,623,294
243) Niagara University 1,622,963
244) SUNY at Albany 1,621,247
245) Northern Arizona University 1,611,995
246) Wagner College 1,597,445
247) SUNY at Binghamton 1,590,639
248) Appalachian State University 1,588,454
249) Campbell University 1,581,464
250) University of Vermont 1,579,502
251) University of North Dakota 1,579,108
252) Eastern Washington University 1,564,917
253) Indiana University-Purdue University-Indianapolis 1,564,479
254) The University of Texas at Arlington 1,549,654
255) University of Pennsylvania 1,546,923
256) University of North Florida 1,538,518
257) University of New Hampshire-Main Campus 1,534,596
258) Saint Francis University 1,529,048
259) Citadel Military College of South Carolina 1,527,117
260) Delaware State University 1,521,971
261) Central Connecticut State University 1,511,666
262) University of North Carolina at Greensboro 1,506,556
263) Wofford College 1,506,228
264) University of Massachusetts-Lowell 1,506,032
265) Gardner-Webb University 1,505,676
266) Morehead State University 1,495,716
267) Columbia University in the City of New York 1,494,045
268) University of Northern Colorado 1,490,726
269) University of Maryland-Baltimore County 1,485,381
270) Lehigh University 1,482,439
271) California State University-Fullerton 1,480,600
272) Longwood University 1,466,648
273) Charleston Southern University 1,458,792
274) South Dakota State University 1,443,001
275) Kennesaw State University 1,435,160
276) California State University-Sacramento 1,433,424
277) Sacred Heart University 1,431,536
278) North Dakota State University-Main Campus 1,417,450
279) St Francis College 1,410,698
280) The University of Texas Rio Grande Valley 1,404,530
281) Texas Southern University 1,400,553
282) Arkansas State University-Main Campus 1,389,844
283) Saint Peter's University 1,387,927
284) Dartmouth College 1,386,651
285) Lamar University 1,377,911
286) Morgan State University 1,363,395
287) Georgia Southern University 1,361,765
288) Troy University 1,355,678
289) North Carolina A & T State University 1,355,182
290) Youngstown State University 1,347,141
291) The University of Tennessee-Martin 1,340,126
292) University of Maine 1,328,389
293) Radford University 1,327,458
294) Virginia Military Institute 1,322,136
295) Tennessee State University 1,312,549
296) Austin Peay State University 1,304,155
297) Winthrop University 1,303,194
298) Harvard University 1,296,186
299) Idaho State University 1,290,851
300) University of Nebraska at Omaha 1,288,481
301) Portland State University 1,284,182
302) Houston Baptist University 1,273,000
303) Indiana University-Purdue University-Fort Wayne 1,269,206
304) Western Illinois University 1,238,197
305) Yale University 1,229,771
306) Presbyterian College 1,215,955
307) Bethune-Cookman University 1,203,595
308) Tennessee Technological University 1,201,935
309) Southeast Missouri State University 1,192,809
310) University of the Incarnate Word 1,180,488
311) Norfolk State University 1,170,179
312) University of Louisiana at Monroe 1,157,908
313) University of South Dakota 1,156,551
314) Hampton University 1,154,030
315) University of Maryland Eastern Shore 1,135,732
316) Princeton University 1,117,914
317) Utah Valley University 1,116,338
318) Jacksonville State University 1,111,582
319) Southern Utah University 1,111,575
320) Abilene Christian University 1,109,152
321) University of Central Arkansas 1,095,560
322) Sam Houston State University 1,087,458
323) Western Carolina University 1,082,372
324) Florida Agricultural and Mechanical University 1,068,173
325) Brown University 1,044,289
326) Eastern Illinois University 1,040,415
327) Southern Illinois University-Edwardsville 1,025,625
328) Northwestern State University of Louisiana 1,023,827
329) University of South Carolina-Upstate 987,517
330) Southeastern Louisiana University 978,939
331) University of New Orleans 954,002
332) University of North Carolina at Asheville 934,569
333) Prairie View A & M University 910,637
334) Southern University and A & M College 883,227
335) Alabama State University 859,867
336) McNeese State University 819,396
337) Alabama A & M University 817,868
338) South Carolina State University 806,005
339) Cornell University 792,795
340) Savannah State University 752,761
341) Coppin State University 738,712
342) Nicholls State University 697,767
343) Chicago State University 681,728
344) Grambling State University 678,446
345) Alcorn State University 629,683
346) Jackson State University 619,321
347) University of Arkansas at Pine Bluff 507,962
348) Mississippi Valley State University 505,795
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - NJDuke97 - 03-08-2019 04:56 PM
(03-08-2019 02:20 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote: All decisions have consequences.All well and good- can you just provide some context on the declining fund raising since Rowe has been hired? If that’s true it’s a reason to move on.
Let's take a little deeper look at the financial question since some posters think that is the only barrier to making the correct firing/hiring decision.
When comparing the JMU athletics financial reports that were released in January 2016 to the ones released in January 2019, the following statements are true...
1- JMU has increased its annual athletics spending by $6.9 million from $44.8 million to $51.7 million
2- JMU has decreased it annual men's basketball spending by $200,000 ($100,000 of that is due to lower head coach and asst coach compensation)
Can we suggest that the money is indeed there, but is being allocated to other programs in the athletic department? Sure, scholarship prices have gone up and travel costs have increased due to annual inflation, but that doesn't account for all of the $6.9 million increase.
*If you are thinking about the facility debt, it was actually $200,000 lower than 3 years ago.
For reference, the FCS football budget has increased $3.6 million.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - JMUNation - 03-09-2019 08:36 AM
(03-07-2019 02:54 PM)Dukes84 Wrote: Will Wade might be available.
So we find out that Wade isn’t a good coach, he simply is a guy that cheats to get good players. Honestly, many and maybe most of the so called good coaches are cheating to get good players. There is too much money involved not to have some cheats. How many are there?
Lou is a young coach and still learning. We all hate losing. I keep asking myself is Lou the type of leader who can eventually find success and become the coach we all yearn for or is he in above his head? Do we need patience or is Lou a lost cause? Sincere questions I am trying to find the answers to.
I do know Lou runs a clean program. He has recruited good players that are also good people. That matters. Doing things the right way matters. Sometimes the road to success takes longer when you do things the right way.
Patience or cut bait? There are costs either way. These decisions are why being an administrator is tough.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - NJDuke97 - 03-09-2019 09:01 AM
Easy decision IMO given all variables- bring Lou back for year 4 but no more excuses. The team has to be a winner in his 4th season or you move another direction for the opening of the new arena.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - Dukes84 - 03-09-2019 10:38 AM
(03-09-2019 09:01 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote: Easy decision IMO given all variables- bring Lou back for year 4 but no more excuses. The team has to be a winner in his 4th season or you move another direction for the opening of the new arena.
That's my position as well, as I've posted before. The timing of firing him now is just awful. A clean break, if it doesn't work going forward, is much easier after next season. JMU has a very nice roster next season with Rowe, with room for at least one more player. Without him, we're possibly looking at another string of losing seasons before any hope of getting out of the morass.
I say it again, poll knowledgeable basketball people regarding where JMU's roster ranks next season within the CAA based on talent. Wright-Foreman, Cacok, Pusica, Carter and others are moving on. Yes, JMU loses Mosley, but adds four impressive freshman, Flowers and at least one other player. Meanwhile, hopefully JMU returns a healthy Banks, Lewis, Parker and Wilson. A very nice roster indeed!
In bringing him back, perhaps stipulate the addition of an experienced assistant or two.
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - JacksonHall - 03-09-2019 12:01 PM
Not having Phillips or Banks certainly makes for a convenient excuse as to why we get blown today. Rowe is a genius
RE: Targets for next Head MBB Coach - JacksonHall - 03-09-2019 12:07 PM
(03-08-2019 08:54 AM)JMad03 Wrote:(03-08-2019 08:17 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote: Something else to consider if Rowe doesn’t pull off 4 wins in 4 days...
His contract started at $260,000 annually which we now see as being way Overpaid for the results he has delivered. Brady’s last year was $302,000.
Assuming annual raises would have been similar for both, JMU saved about $126,000 over the course of 3 years. Relative to where we were in 2016, JMU really only has to find $150,000 somewhere in the budget to make the change after the season.
Of course, while there has been a financial savings for salary, there has been a massive negative financial impact on the program. Ticket sales/attendance are atrocious and fundraising for the new arena has been hampered.
When looking at the big picture, it is too costly to Keep Rowe.
While I agree with you, I don't think the admin sees it that way. If they fire Rowe now, it will be admitting that they made a huge mistake and I don't think they're ready to admit that.
Hire a coach with experience as a head coach and has been successful as a head coach.
It's still head scratching to me how little they have learned from their past mistakes. We deserve exactly what we are getting and the admin needs to go down with this ship.
they need to admit they made a mistake and move on. Anybody that has ever played organized team basketball can see that he has no idea what he's doing on the sidelines. And with game management. it was stupid to hire a coach That had very limited assistant coaching experience and put him in charge of a division 1 program.