(05-14-2018 06:14 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Congratulations Peter Linn!

I'm sure he'll get a nice raise and a promotion from some P5 school that can afford it.

Life has a way of working out nicely for the non-whiners.

(05-14-2018 06:29 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I'd be surprised if he went anywhere. Guys like Linn are loyal. They're also way better than we deserve.

(05-14-2018 06:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:29 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I'd be surprised if he went anywhere. Guys like Linn are loyal. They're also way better than we deserve.

We think and hope that CC is of the same ilk.

As far as loyalty in sports there isn't much, either way, school to coach or coach to school or fans to coach.

All very transactional: What have you done for me (us) lately.

(05-14-2018 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:29 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I'd be surprised if he went anywhere. Guys like Linn are loyal. They're also way better than we deserve.

We think and hope that CC is of the same ilk.

As far as loyalty in sports there isn't much, either way, school to coach or coach to school or fans to coach.

All very transactional: What have you done for me (us) lately.

Identifying a successful football coach as being disloyal should he go elsewhere is largely a self fulfilling prophecy for many at EMU. His under market salary is criticized as being too high, faculty and others insist we become a D-2 team and his program is evaluated based on the results of previous coaches. Hardly a Valhalla situation. EMU for sure was extremely fortunate to have had Peter Linn around and we should thank him profusely for his contribution to the University. Creighton, however, has done an admirable job under horrible conditions and needs some appreciation as well.

(05-14-2018 09:02 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:29 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I'd be surprised if he went anywhere. Guys like Linn are loyal. They're also way better than we deserve.

We think and hope that CC is of the same ilk.

As far as loyalty in sports there isn't much, either way, school to coach or coach to school or fans to coach.

All very transactional: What have you done for me (us) lately.

Identifying a successful football coach as being disloyal should he go elsewhere is largely a self fulfilling prophecy for many at EMU. His under market salary is criticized as being too high, faculty and others insist we become a D-2 team and his program is evaluated based on the results of previous coaches. Hardly a Valhalla situation. EMU for sure was extremely fortunate to have had Peter Linn around and we should thank him profusely for his contribution to the University. Creighton, however, has done an admirable job under horrible conditions and needs some appreciation as well.

Creighton is a miracle worker and worth his weight in Gold for the great relationship he has with hundreds of highschools throughout the Midwest.

Bunsis' on the other hand is easily replaceable and should be terminated for insubordination against EMU President and BoR. Bunsis' would never be hired by any university that has a football program. I would like to see Bunsis terminated and I'm working behind the scenes to see if there's protocol and energy to do so.

(05-14-2018 06:14 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Congratulations Peter Linn!

I'm sure he'll get a nice raise and a promotion from some P5 school that can afford it.

Life has a way of working out nicely for the non-whiners.

(05-14-2018 10:22 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:02 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:29 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I'd be surprised if he went anywhere. Guys like Linn are loyal. They're also way better than we deserve.

We think and hope that CC is of the same ilk.

As far as loyalty in sports there isn't much, either way, school to coach or coach to school or fans to coach.

All very transactional: What have you done for me (us) lately.

Identifying a successful football coach as being disloyal should he go elsewhere is largely a self fulfilling prophecy for many at EMU. His under market salary is criticized as being too high, faculty and others insist we become a D-2 team and his program is evaluated based on the results of previous coaches. Hardly a Valhalla situation. EMU for sure was extremely fortunate to have had Peter Linn around and we should thank him profusely for his contribution to the University. Creighton, however, has done an admirable job under horrible conditions and needs some appreciation as well.

Creighton is a miracle worker and worth his weight in Gold for the great relationship he has with hundreds of highschools throughout the Midwest.

Bunsis' on the other hand is easily replaceable and should be terminated for insubordination against EMU President and BoR. Bunsis' would never be hired by any university that has a football program. I would like to see Bunsis terminated and I'm working behind the scenes to see if there's protocol and energy to do so.

CC has done a good job, but he's no miracle worker. His record is not much better than Genyk's and not as good as Rasnick's. He seems like a good guy and I'd like to see him succeed, but his record is 15-34.

(05-14-2018 09:02 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:29 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  I'd be surprised if he went anywhere. Guys like Linn are loyal. They're also way better than we deserve.

We think and hope that CC is of the same ilk.

As far as loyalty in sports there isn't much, either way, school to coach or coach to school or fans to coach.

All very transactional: What have you done for me (us) lately.

Identifying a successful football coach as being disloyal should he go elsewhere is largely a self fulfilling prophecy for many at EMU. His under market salary is criticized as being too high, faculty and others insist we become a D-2 team and his program is evaluated based on the results of previous coaches. Hardly a Valhalla situation. EMU for sure was extremely fortunate to have had Peter Linn around and we should thank him profusely for his contribution to the University. Creighton, however, has done an admirable job under horrible conditions and needs some appreciation as well.

Creighton is a miracle worker and worth his weight in Gold for the great relationship he has with hundreds of highschools throughout the Midwest.

Bunsis' on the other hand is easily replaceable and should be terminated for insubordination against EMU President and BoR. Bunsis' would never be hired by any university that has a football program. I would like to see Bunsis terminated and I'm working behind the scenes to see if there's protocol and energy to do so.

(05-15-2018 03:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:22 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:02 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 06:43 PM)emu steve Wrote:  We think and hope that CC is of the same ilk.

As far as loyalty in sports there isn't much, either way, school to coach or coach to school or fans to coach.

All very transactional: What have you done for me (us) lately.

Identifying a successful football coach as being disloyal should he go elsewhere is largely a self fulfilling prophecy for many at EMU. His under market salary is criticized as being too high, faculty and others insist we become a D-2 team and his program is evaluated based on the results of previous coaches. Hardly a Valhalla situation. EMU for sure was extremely fortunate to have had Peter Linn around and we should thank him profusely for his contribution to the University. Creighton, however, has done an admirable job under horrible conditions and needs some appreciation as well.

Creighton is a miracle worker and worth his weight in Gold for the great relationship he has with hundreds of highschools throughout the Midwest.

Bunsis' on the other hand is easily replaceable and should be terminated for insubordination against EMU President and BoR. Bunsis' would never be hired by any university that has a football program. I would like to see Bunsis terminated and I'm working behind the scenes to see if there's protocol and energy to do so.

CC has done a good job, but he's no miracle worker. His record is not much better than Genyk's and not as good as Rasnick's. He seems like a good guy and I'd like to see him succeed, but his record is 15-34.

There is a big, big difference.

Rasnick inherited a team which Cooper had recruited and won most of their last N games. The team was poised to win big. In two or three years it had fallen apart.

CC inherited a team which the wheels had fallen off.

The comparison is apples and oranges. That should be very obvious if one gets beyond the most trite analysis of numbers. E.g. 10 > 7.

One thing about coaching records. There are no 40 yard times. No 225 lb bench presses. No 3 cone drills. Baseball more so. BA, HRs, RBIs, stolen bases, etc. How much more empirical does it get. Ditto NBA. Numbers don't like for many super stars.

Analyzing coaches is pure inferential with little empirical data, except wins and losses, but they are very, very imperfect metrics. Since there is no draft in college FB, we can not assume, by any stretch, that any two teams are remotely equal in talent.

(05-15-2018 09:35 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(05-15-2018 03:19 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 10:22 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 09:02 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(05-14-2018 07:15 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  Identifying a successful football coach as being disloyal should he go elsewhere is largely a self fulfilling prophecy for many at EMU. His under market salary is criticized as being too high, faculty and others insist we become a D-2 team and his program is evaluated based on the results of previous coaches. Hardly a Valhalla situation. EMU for sure was extremely fortunate to have had Peter Linn around and we should thank him profusely for his contribution to the University. Creighton, however, has done an admirable job under horrible conditions and needs some appreciation as well.

Creighton is a miracle worker and worth his weight in Gold for the great relationship he has with hundreds of highschools throughout the Midwest.

Bunsis' on the other hand is easily replaceable and should be terminated for insubordination against EMU President and BoR. Bunsis' would never be hired by any university that has a football program. I would like to see Bunsis terminated and I'm working behind the scenes to see if there's protocol and energy to do so.

CC has done a good job, but he's no miracle worker. His record is not much better than Genyk's and not as good as Rasnick's. He seems like a good guy and I'd like to see him succeed, but his record is 15-34.

There is a big, big difference.

Rasnick inherited a team which Cooper had recruited and won most of their last N games. The team was poised to win big. In two or three years it had fallen apart.

CC inherited a team which the wheels had fallen off.

The comparison is apples and oranges. That should be very obvious if one gets beyond the most trite analysis of numbers. E.g. 10 > 7.

One thing about coaching records. There are no 40 yard times. No 225 lb bench presses. No 3 cone drills. Baseball more so. BA, HRs, RBIs, stolen bases, etc. How much more empirical does it get. Ditto NBA. Numbers don't like for many super stars.

Analyzing coaches is pure inferential with little empirical data, except wins and losses, but they are very, very imperfect metrics. Since there is no draft in college FB, we can not assume, by any stretch, that any two teams are remotely equal in talent.

I was pointing out that we haven't seen any miracles from CC. Improvement, not miracles.

Cooper took over a poor team and had nine wins in two seasons.

Harkema had a similar record to CC after four seasons. His fourth season had a winning record. His fifth season was our only ever MAC champion, but was followed by two more winning seasons for four winning seasons in a row.

I'm afraid that last season was a missed opportunity. There were so many close games that we might have won eight. Instead we only won five.

(05-25-2018 03:23 PM)emu steve Wrote:  How about this former SIU football player. Stopped a tragedy in the making today in Indiana.

He made the biggest sack of his life today. A real act of courage.

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/23606304/former-southern-illinois-salukis-de-jason-seaman-intervenes-school-shooting-shot-3-s

https://twitter.com/SIU_Football/status/1000075052719755264