(04-07-2018 07:59 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  The U should give it back.

(04-07-2018 08:30 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 07:59 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  The U should give it back.

Did it come from Dean Rockwell? If so, EMU has a legitimate question how to handle those funds.

(04-08-2018 07:55 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 08:30 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 07:59 AM)ljmhurons Wrote:  The U should give it back.

Did it come from Dean Rockwell? If so, EMU has a legitimate question how to handle those funds.

Dean made a donation to the wrestling program, but I don't know about the size.

(04-07-2018 08:06 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  I agree, if a donation was targeted for a stated specific program the University should return it if that program is discontinued. That's just good honest business. I made a targeted donation recently to the Champions Building program and if the University decides to abandon the project, I would certainly expect a refund.

While I regret deeply the discontinuation of the Men's wrestling and swimming programs, I feel that many are missing the Title IX implications of restoring those activities. If they come back then so do women's softball and tennis as well. In essence the costs of participating in the men's sports also include those of a women's sports or sport activity. To analyze the viability of an individual sport is far more complex than it seems. Say what you will about Title IX but it is the law.

(04-14-2018 06:30 PM)alum93 Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 08:06 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  I agree, if a donation was targeted for a stated specific program the University should return it if that program is discontinued. That's just good honest business. I made a targeted donation recently to the Champions Building program and if the University decides to abandon the project, I would certainly expect a refund.

While I regret deeply the discontinuation of the Men's wrestling and swimming programs, I feel that many are missing the Title IX implications of restoring those activities. If they come back then so do women's softball and tennis as well. In essence the costs of participating in the men's sports also include those of a women's sports or sport activity. To analyze the viability of an individual sport is far more complex than it seems. Say what you will about Title IX but it is the law.

I don't often post here although an alumni and season ticket holder for football and basketball. Today in an antique store in Wiliamston, MI I bought a blanket embroidered with the name Dean Rockwell, football and track. The logo is a large M with Eastern written within it. It also has a Huron logo with the two feathers pointing to the rear. Anyone know if I have an EMU heirloom, something mass produced or a fake? Either way its cool!

(04-14-2018 06:30 PM)alum93 Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 08:06 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  I agree, if a donation was targeted for a stated specific program the University should return it if that program is discontinued. That's just good honest business. I made a targeted donation recently to the Champions Building program and if the University decides to abandon the project, I would certainly expect a refund.

While I regret deeply the discontinuation of the Men's wrestling and swimming programs, I feel that many are missing the Title IX implications of restoring those activities. If they come back then so do women's softball and tennis as well. In essence the costs of participating in the men's sports also include those of a women's sports or sport activity. To analyze the viability of an individual sport is far more complex than it seems. Say what you will about Title IX but it is the law.

I don't often post here although an alumni and season ticket holder for football and basketball. Today in an antique store in Wiliamston, MI I bought a blanket embroidered with the name Dean Rockwell, football and track. The logo is a large M with Eastern written within it. It also has a Huron logo with the two feathers pointing to the rear. Anyone know if I have an EMU heirloom, something mass produced or a fake? Either way its cool!

(05-01-2018 08:58 AM)masttg Wrote:  The article that Ken is referring to was not written by David Jesse, but Carlos Monarrez.

One point that is being made is that the sports need to be taken in context of the whole university. For example, the football team deserves credit for getting national exposure, TV time, MAC bowl revenue sharing, etc. For these olympic sports the amount of tuition generated needs to be discussed. When tuition revenue is credited then these sports do not need million-dollar endowments. This is exactly why D3 sports survive. To look at the case for EMU: http://sportsgeekonomics.tumblr.com/post/173192441908/eastern-michigan-aint-saving-money-by-cutting
In a nutshell, the EMU is cutting off its nose to spite its face.

(05-01-2018 10:04 AM)emu steve Wrote:  After what seems like a zillion posts we are still back to a few basic points:

1). EMU, and many other similar schools, have tight budgets because of declining enrollment (some blame the states for cutting back funding thereby making tuition more expensive).

2). EMU had 21 sports which is like my dad used to say, "some people try to s*it bigger than their hole." We can not support 21 sports.

3). With Title IX, EMU needed to cut some even number of sports (2 or 4). Folks are going to be unhappy one way or another.

4). Which MEN'S sports do our wrestling supporters wanted us to cut? There are really 7 men's sports (T&F and X-country are really companion sports). NO one would (or in some cases 'could') cut FB, MBB, baseball, T&F/X-cross country). That leaves 2 of the following 3: Golf, S&D, and wrestling.