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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - DawgNBama - 12-18-2017 05:01 AM
This would be on Sling Orange of course
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - solohawks - 12-18-2017 11:29 AM
(12-18-2017 05:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:You can get the sec network and espnu for $5 extra(12-13-2017 03:41 PM)orangefan Wrote: Gone Sling Orange + CBS All Access (Can't get CBS OTA in my area). $20 + $6 = $26/mo.
For sports, that gets me:
ESPN - NFL, MLB, NBA, CFP/NY6, NCAAF, NCAAB, ACC (Syracuse!)
ESPN2 - NCAAF, NCAAB, ACC (Syracuse!)
ESPN3 (which includes ESPN on ABC) - NBA, MLB, NCAAF, NCAAB, ACC (Syracuse!)
ACC Network Extra - ACC (Syracuse!)
TBS - MLB, NCAA Tournament
TNT - NBA, NCAA Tournament
CBS - NFL (Patriots!), SEC football, NCAAB, NCAA Tournament
That is really interesting Orangefan!!!
In my area, I can get CBS, ESPN on ABC, NBC, and Fox OTA. I wonder if I could substitute the ACC Network for the SEC Network?
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - orangefan - 12-18-2017 03:09 PM
(12-18-2017 11:29 AM)solohawks Wrote:(12-18-2017 05:00 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:You can get the sec network and espnu for $5 extra(12-13-2017 03:41 PM)orangefan Wrote: Gone Sling Orange + CBS All Access (Can't get CBS OTA in my area). $20 + $6 = $26/mo.
For sports, that gets me:
ESPN - NFL, MLB, NBA, CFP/NY6, NCAAF, NCAAB, ACC (Syracuse!)
ESPN2 - NCAAF, NCAAB, ACC (Syracuse!)
ESPN3 (which includes ESPN on ABC) - NBA, MLB, NCAAF, NCAAB, ACC (Syracuse!)
ACC Network Extra - ACC (Syracuse!)
TBS - MLB, NCAA Tournament
TNT - NBA, NCAA Tournament
CBS - NFL (Patriots!), SEC football, NCAAB, NCAA Tournament
That is really interesting Orangefan!!!
In my area, I can get CBS, ESPN on ABC, NBC, and Fox OTA. I wonder if I could substitute the ACC Network for the SEC Network?
I suspect the ACCN will be placed on the same sports extra tier after it's launched. For now, ACCN Extra is just a rebranding of games that were previously placed on ESPN3.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - TexanMark - 12-20-2017 07:14 PM
This might be of interest to those that want flexibility in their OTA channels. New device just hit the market. Allows to to stream your Over The Air (OTA) channels in your house. It allows record, pause and rewind. You still need a good antenna. They have several recommended.
https://www.antennasdirect.com/clearstream-tv-wireless-tuner.html?zip=33707#channelchart
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - MWC Tex - 12-20-2017 08:34 PM
(12-20-2017 07:14 PM)TexanMark Wrote: This might be of interest to those that want flexibility in their OTA channels. New device just hit the market. Allows to to stream your Over The Air (OTA) channels in your house. It allows record, pause and rewind. You still need a good antenna. They have several recommended.
https://www.antennasdirect.com/clearstream-tv-wireless-tuner.html?zip=33707#channelchart
Interesting device.
That will provide OTA TV in rooms where a signal isn't strong.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - MWC Tex - 01-18-2018 08:20 PM
https://ting.com/blog/streaming-tv-services-coming-2018/
Looks like we are going to get some more choices for TV streaming. Notably T-Mobile and Verizon are following AT&T.
T-Mobile bought pay tv Layer 3 and Verizon is looking to buy a cable company.
Here is YouTube video from the T-Mobile CEO.
https://youtu.be/hZJDAJDD-uw
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - Miami (Oh) Yeah ! - 01-27-2018 09:17 AM
http://www.setvnow.com
500 channels. $20.
Thoughts?
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - MWC Tex - 01-27-2018 02:03 PM
(01-27-2018 09:17 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote: http://www.setvnow.com
500 channels. $20.
Thoughts?
Sounds too good to be true and probably getting streams from the UK and Canada to get access from the US. Have to wonder if the sports channels aren't allow to charge a high fee outside of tne US to where that many channels can offered.
Almost sounds suspect to piracy.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - Kittonhead - 01-28-2018 10:53 PM
(01-27-2018 09:17 AM)Miami (Oh) Yeah ! Wrote: http://www.setvnow.com
500 channels. $20.
Thoughts?
No IFC or Sundance. I counted only 113 channels on the american subscription.
The problem continues to be that to do anything your still tied to an ISP. Either a cable provider or broadband.
If you could go coast-2-coast wifi where you only need to bring the device and the monthly subscription an eliminate the ISP that is where you want to go. All prepaid on the devices.
Comcast is offering unlimited phone/text service 1 GB of data for 12 dollars. On the Verizon CDMA network. Grab a prepaid for 50 bucks at the Walmart and have 12 dollar phone service on the Verizon network.
Comcast ISP is 70 bucks though. T-Mobile One is 70 bucks. If you go to a provider like Net-Zero you can get ISP for 30 dollar but its only for 1GB. That isn't going to be enough for everyday usage. Net-Zero for 6GB they want 90 dollars. That isn't enough really.
I find that separate cellular, ISP and cable under promotions is the way to go. Going vertical with one company seems to cost you more.
Even T-Mobile they want you to go vertical and lock into device contracts for a service that doesn't work in all areas. T-Mobile two lines (1 mobile, 1 broadband) goes for 120 dollars...then a device contracts another 30 dollars. Add a 30 dollar TV service to it. Then its 180 you are paying. For that amount of money you could go vertical with Comcast and have DSL instead of broadband delivery for the ISP.
Splitting it up.
Cricket prepaid 5GB service $35
T-Mobile broadband service 14GB $55
Comcast performance TV package 220 channels w/HBO $60
This is only $150 better than an vertical deal. Another way to do it is to scale up T-Mobile for a few weeks and then go out and get a double play under contract.
Going in for a new double play...
Cricket prepaid 5GB service $35
T-Mobile broadband service 2GB $10
Comcast performance TV package 220 channels w/HBO w/internet $90
Now you are looking at $135 way better than going vertical. 50 dollars a month, 600 a year, 1,000 dollars before taxes that you are saving.
Watch for the following:
1) Monthly device fees.
2) FCC/Usage taxes.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - Kittonhead - 01-28-2018 11:29 PM
(01-18-2018 08:20 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: https://ting.com/blog/streaming-tv-services-coming-2018/
Looks like we are going to get some more choices for TV streaming. Notably T-Mobile and Verizon are following AT&T.
T-Mobile bought pay tv Layer 3 and Verizon is looking to buy a cable company.
Here is YouTube video from the T-Mobile CEO.
https://youtu.be/hZJDAJDD-uw
What would T-Mobile do here rent you a set top box from their retail store and then have cable packages you can buy from them?
The premium Layer 3 package was 75 a month for 12 months. Comcast is 80 but has all the movie channels. Is T-Mobile going to hit you with fees on top of it like Comcast?
Is the potential there for vertical savings? T-Mobile One is 70 dollars a month but reduces as you add lines....so could they treat TV as a line so for 120 dollars you've got a premium TV package plus unlimited data? Comcast is 110 but with taxes and fees more like 130. Comparable but the difference is T-Mobile price would be fixed and not float up after 12 months.
It sounds like a better gamble than some of these internet.TV services where you have to buy a set top on amazon.com with questionable service support and a more restricted TV lineup of 100 channels or so. We just have to see what this really is and what the price is
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - TerpsNPhoenix - 02-02-2018 11:47 AM
This isn't about the various options so much it is about Youtube TV. It is FINALLY on Roku as well as Apple TV. The article states that Youtube TV is available in over 80 markets and covers roughly 80 of the US population.
CNET : Youtube TV now on Roku, Apple TV
I think I'm finally going to check it out since we have the Super Bowl and Olympics this month (but man it's nice not having that bill).
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - MWC Tex - 02-02-2018 01:09 PM
(02-02-2018 11:47 AM)TerpsNPhoenix Wrote: This isn't about the various options so much it is about Youtube TV. It is FINALLY on Roku as well as Apple TV. The article states that Youtube TV is available in over 80 markets and covers roughly 80 of the US population.
CNET : Youtube TV now on Roku, Apple TV
I think I'm finally going to check it out since we have the Super Bowl and Olympics this month (but man it's nice not having that bill).
Thanks for the update. I've updated my post to reflect Hulu and YouTube TV are now on Roku.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - Kittonhead - 02-06-2018 10:58 PM
(01-18-2018 08:20 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: https://ting.com/blog/streaming-tv-services-coming-2018/
Looks like we are going to get some more choices for TV streaming. Notably T-Mobile and Verizon are following AT&T.
T-Mobile bought pay tv Layer 3 and Verizon is looking to buy a cable company.
Here is YouTube video from the T-Mobile CEO.
https://youtu.be/hZJDAJDD-uw
Layer3 has updated its website. You get to pick the color of your set top box out which is cute but this product is really expensive.
https://layer3tv.com/get-layer3/package
Discounted rate ($125)
$75 all HD channels, Starz and Epix free for 3 months.
$50 for pure fiber internet
Regular rate ($158)
$89 all HD channels, Starz and Epix free for 3 months.
$69 for pure fiber internet
If you want HBO, Cinemax, Showtime with "discounted" cable it will run you about $120 dollars. Super disappointing IMO.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - TexanMark - 02-09-2018 12:48 PM
Just an update on YouTubeTV...my son was using my account in a city away from my listed market. After about 2-3 months it said it had to be revalidated back in the home area. So the three feeds come with a caveat.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - TexanMark - 02-14-2018 11:44 AM
MWC... YouTubeTV has just added
TNT, TBS, CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, HLN, truTV, and TCM in your membership.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - solohawks - 02-14-2018 12:57 PM
(02-14-2018 11:44 AM)TexanMark Wrote: MWC... YouTubeTV has just added
TNT, TBS, CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, HLN, truTV, and TCM in your membership.
And upped their price to $40/month
Im surprised they would give ground on the $5 price point advantage they had over Hulu Live TV.
Considering they have virtually the same channels, I would think Hulu at $40 (which includes Hulu Live TV, the Hulu On Demand Service, and a cloud DVR) would be a better deal than YouTube TV at $40 (which includes YouTube TV, YouTube Red, and a cloud DVR)
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - MWC Tex - 02-14-2018 01:49 PM
(02-14-2018 12:57 PM)solohawks Wrote:Updated. Thanks to you both!(02-14-2018 11:44 AM)TexanMark Wrote: MWC... YouTubeTV has just added
TNT, TBS, CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, HLN, truTV, and TCM in your membership.
And upped their price to $40/month
Im surprised they would give ground on the $5 price point advantage they had over Hulu Live TV.
Considering they have virtually the same channels, I would think Hulu at $40 (which includes Hulu Live TV, the Hulu On Demand Service, and a cloud DVR) would be a better deal than YouTube TV at $40 (which includes YouTube TV, YouTube Red, and a cloud DVR)
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - TexanMark - 02-14-2018 03:02 PM
(02-14-2018 12:57 PM)solohawks Wrote:(02-14-2018 11:44 AM)TexanMark Wrote: MWC... YouTubeTV has just added
TNT, TBS, CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, HLN, truTV, and TCM in your membership.
And upped their price to $40/month
Im surprised they would give ground on the $5 price point advantage they had over Hulu Live TV.
Considering they have virtually the same channels, I would think Hulu at $40 (which includes Hulu Live TV, the Hulu On Demand Service, and a cloud DVR) would be a better deal than YouTube TV at $40 (which includes YouTube TV, YouTube Red, and a cloud DVR)
Thanks for alerting me to that...say a promo stating the new channels with nothing about a price increase. As for Hulu vs Youtube...it will come down to what one best delivers the most value to you. I like that Youtube offers local channels in over 80 markets...so they have that going for them. I'm going to investigate Hulu more now...coincidentally my subscription renews around the date of the price increase.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - solohawks - 02-14-2018 03:39 PM
(02-14-2018 03:02 PM)TexanMark Wrote:(02-14-2018 12:57 PM)solohawks Wrote:(02-14-2018 11:44 AM)TexanMark Wrote: MWC... YouTubeTV has just added
TNT, TBS, CNN, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, HLN, truTV, and TCM in your membership.
And upped their price to $40/month
Im surprised they would give ground on the $5 price point advantage they had over Hulu Live TV.
Considering they have virtually the same channels, I would think Hulu at $40 (which includes Hulu Live TV, the Hulu On Demand Service, and a cloud DVR) would be a better deal than YouTube TV at $40 (which includes YouTube TV, YouTube Red, and a cloud DVR)
Thanks for alerting me to that...say a promo stating the new channels with nothing about a price increase. As for Hulu vs Youtube...it will come down to what one best delivers the most value to you. I like that Youtube offers local channels in over 80 markets...so they have that going for them. I'm going to investigate Hulu more now...coincidentally my subscription renews around the date of the price increase.
Current subscribers are grandfathered.
The price increase begins next month for new subs.
RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms - Kittonhead - 02-16-2018 01:55 AM
Shopping around for mobile broadband data at the moment to see if anything is economical enough to replace DSL.
-Verizon unlimited data wireless+jet pack ($110 dollars plus taxes/fees). If you figure you'll usually use 8GB data a month on the phone, necessitating a 50 dollar plan to be able to go unlimited also on a jet pack for $60 dollars more isn't bad. Fees though with Verizon tend to be high.
-Sprint 50GB ($50 plus taxes). Good price point and good data allotment. The traditional 22GB mobile limit isn't enough for most users. Free Hulu with Sprint account.
-T-Mobile unlimited ($70 per month). A little more expensive but unlimited. Throttling begins now at 50GB which is a lot better than previous 22GB industry cutoff point. Add in free Netflix with account.
-AT&T 25GB ($40 plus taxes). A more moderate data option that might work for some users. Cellphone plan at 40 dollars includes free HBO and 10 dollar DirectTVnow subscription.
-MetroPCS 16GB ($50 dollars). They just brought in the jetpack a couple of months ago. Their pricing is better than T-Mobile's old data plan where it would be $55 dollars for 14GB but otherwise not the most competitive offer. For $125 the jetpack could support 54GB of data.
-Boost Mobile unlimted wireless with 20GB mobile hotspot ($60 dollars). It could be the best of the second tier carriers if the plan is to use a phone as a jetpack. Sprint network with better coverage than MetroPCS.
-Cricket unlimited wireless with 8GB mobile hotspot ($55 dollars). At 8GB its not possible to meet data needs for a household.