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The REALLY interesting piece of news - arkstfan - 03-01-2016 04:30 PM
Benson said a 2013 financial decision by the Group of Five schools drove the move. That year, the Group of Five conferences decided each of the leagues would receive up to $12 million in College Football Playoff distribution based on a maximum of $1 million per school.
That maximum was later changed to $10 million which made it easier for the Sun Belt to shrink its membership. With Idaho and New Mexico State, the Sun Belt has been ranked last among the Group of FIve conferences in recent years, Benson said.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25501000/idaho-new-mexico-to-be-dropped-from-sun-belt-after-2017-season
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - LatahCounty - 03-01-2016 04:35 PM
If that's the case then I see why we got let go.
I also think more contraction may well be coming soon in other conferences. Between this and performance money and declining TV money it makes a lot less sense to keep poor on-field performers around.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - Georgia_Power_Company - 03-01-2016 04:35 PM
(03-01-2016 04:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Benson said a 2013 financial decision by the Group of Five schools drove the move. That year, the Group of Five conferences decided each of the leagues would receive up to $12 million in College Football Playoff distribution based on a maximum of $1 million per school.
That maximum was later changed to $10 million which made it easier for the Sun Belt to shrink its membership. With Idaho and New Mexico State, the Sun Belt has been ranked last among the Group of FIve conferences in recent years, Benson said.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25501000/idaho-new-mexico-to-be-dropped-from-sun-belt-after-2017-season
Yeah I had seen some posters say 10 mill max before but never posted a link to back that up so now after the confirmation of this from Karl Benson this move makes more sense to me.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - GSU Eagles - 03-01-2016 04:36 PM
(03-01-2016 04:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Benson said a 2013 financial decision by the Group of Five schools drove the move. That year, the Group of Five conferences decided each of the leagues would receive up to $12 million in College Football Playoff distribution based on a maximum of $1 million per school.
That maximum was later changed to $10 million which made it easier for the Sun Belt to shrink its membership. With Idaho and New Mexico State, the Sun Belt has been ranked last among the Group of FIve conferences in recent years, Benson said.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25501000/idaho-new-mexico-to-be-dropped-from-sun-belt-after-2017-season
Yes, very interesting. We all assumed the number was $1million up to 12 schools. This makes CUSA's situation even worse.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - Eagleditka - 03-01-2016 04:38 PM
Well that makes expansion even more unlikely.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - TroyFootball05 - 03-01-2016 05:23 PM
Although, NMSU and Idaho were trending up, I'm ok with them leaving. I wish them the best of luck and have no ill-will toward their fans.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - Fanof49ASU - 03-01-2016 06:45 PM
Now this is done, can we address Benson's retirement?
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - Redwolves06 - 03-01-2016 07:24 PM
(03-01-2016 04:36 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:(03-01-2016 04:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Benson said a 2013 financial decision by the Group of Five schools drove the move. That year, the Group of Five conferences decided each of the leagues would receive up to $12 million in College Football Playoff distribution based on a maximum of $1 million per school.
That maximum was later changed to $10 million which made it easier for the Sun Belt to shrink its membership. With Idaho and New Mexico State, the Sun Belt has been ranked last among the Group of FIve conferences in recent years, Benson said.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/dennis-dodd/25501000/idaho-new-mexico-to-be-dropped-from-sun-belt-after-2017-season
Yes, very interesting. We all assumed the number was $1million up to 12 schools. This makes CUSA's situation even worse.
Yes, because it affects a schools budget oh so much...
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - NuMexAg - 03-01-2016 07:29 PM
Had that decision been made in 2010-11, the WAC might have survived. At least had enough of a core remaining to entice the Montana's to join.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - KeyWestTROYTrojan - 03-01-2016 07:29 PM
Is anyone able to find any further evidence of this apparent change to 10 million? Is this a change that perhaps has not been publicized yet? I have been unable to find any reference to it other than the cbssports article.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - bluephi1914 - 03-01-2016 07:53 PM
http://cfp-cms-s3-prod.slcfp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Revenue-Distribution.pdf
This is the official payout structure. I guess it comes down to what actual revenues end up being.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - KeyWestTROYTrojan - 03-01-2016 08:15 PM
Thanks Bluephi.
Re: RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - Georgia_Power_Company - 03-01-2016 08:22 PM
(03-01-2016 07:53 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote: http://cfp-cms-s3-prod.slcfp.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Revenue-Distribution.pdf
This is the official payout structure. I guess it comes down to what actual revenues end up being.
This doesn't offer any specific breakout beyond saying that the G5 is sharing $75 million to be split as the G5 wants.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - KeyWestTROYTrojan - 03-01-2016 08:52 PM
Where did KB get the 10 million dollar figure? Is the payout structure about to change?
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - bluephi1914 - 03-01-2016 09:01 PM
According to this article, the SBC took in just under $12m from the 2014/2015 playoff.
http://theadvocate.com/sports/13155608-128/sun-belt-preview-now-up
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - bluephi1914 - 03-01-2016 09:05 PM
Team payouts in the SBC from the conference after the 2014/2015 year was $1m.
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/college/georgia-state-received-1-million-from-sun-belt/nmqZb/
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - appsfan - 03-01-2016 09:05 PM
That was the first I've heard of the payout being at $10 million versus the $12 million that it has been.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - TheRevSWT - 03-01-2016 09:42 PM
(03-01-2016 04:35 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote: Yeah I had seen some posters say 10 mill max before but never posted a link to back that up so now after the confirmation of this from Karl Benson this move makes more sense to me.
If ANY of the Sun Belt schools made the decision based on ~165k/year, then they have no need to be in FBS. It's just not enough of a needle mover to make that big of a deal.
Re: RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - Georgia_Power_Company - 03-01-2016 10:32 PM
(03-01-2016 09:42 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:(03-01-2016 04:35 PM)Georgia_Power_Company Wrote: Yeah I had seen some posters say 10 mill max before but never posted a link to back that up so now after the confirmation of this from Karl Benson this move makes more sense to me.
If ANY of the Sun Belt schools made the decision based on ~165k/year, then they have no need to be in FBS. It's just not enough of a needle mover to make that big of a deal.
Oh I agree with you but what I was thinking is if the payout was $12 million it didn't make sense to me to let these two go. You would be leaving money on the table.
With the payout capped at $10 million and more money added to the performance payout it also means more $$ splitting that performance portion less ways.
RE: The REALLY interesting piece of news - EKUSteve - 03-01-2016 11:17 PM
Also makes sense where it comes to playing G5 vs P5 OOC games based on the advocate article. If the case is $10 million, then I don't see the need to call on anyone else to expand.