Quote:The NCAA investigation into the alleged wrongs done by former Louisiana-Lafayette assistant football coach David Saunders is, for all intents and purposes, complete.

What remains is a final verdict on the depth of the sanctions to be levied on the university, which likely won’t come before the end of the season. Based on the NCAA’s previous dealings with issues of this nature, trying to figure out what those might be is virtually impossible.

According to an investigation by CNN into how the NCAA punishes cases of academic fraud, the only consistent thing about the punishments is a lack of consistency.

CNN had three university researchers look into 39 cases of academic fraud since 1990, and the results varied.

http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayette/13718434-123/how-will-the-ncaa-penalize

(10-16-2015 08:13 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

Quote:The NCAA investigation into the alleged wrongs done by former Louisiana-Lafayette assistant football coach David Saunders is, for all intents and purposes, complete.

What remains is a final verdict on the depth of the sanctions to be levied on the university, which likely won’t come before the end of the season. Based on the NCAA’s previous dealings with issues of this nature, trying to figure out what those might be is virtually impossible.

According to an investigation by CNN into how the NCAA punishes cases of academic fraud, the only consistent thing about the punishments is a lack of consistency.

CNN had three university researchers look into 39 cases of academic fraud since 1990, and the results varied.

http://theadvocate.com/sports/ullafayette/13718434-123/how-will-the-ncaa-penalize

(10-16-2015 08:44 AM)laxtonto Wrote:  This is just lazy reporting. The penalty structutr for these violations have changed multiple times through the years. Yes the punishments will be inconsistent. This is why it was such a big deal that UNC is on the old penalty structure and that SMU was not.. Here is the "new" penalty guidelines..

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Figure19-1.pdf

By looking at the chart, Standard Lvl 1 violations should be equal to:

1-2 year post season ban

Fine of 1-3% of the Football budget

0-25% scholarship reductions (hard to gauge here, but there is this "For cases in which financial aid overages have occurred, a minimum 2-for-1 reduction in financial aid awards shall apply up to at least 20% of the team financial aid limit"

2-10 year show cause order is most likely for the coach directly involved

0-25% recruiting visit reduction

2-6 years of probation

(10-16-2015 08:44 AM)laxtonto Wrote:  This is just lazy reporting. The penalty structutr for these violations have changed multiple times through the years. Yes the punishments will be inconsistent. This is why it was such a big deal that UNC is on the old penalty structure and that SMU was not.. Here is the "new" penalty guidelines..

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Figure19-1.pdf

By looking at the chart, Standard Lvl 1 violations should be equal to:

1-2 year post season ban

Fine of 1-3% of the Football budget

0-25% scholarship reductions (hard to gauge here, but there is this "For cases in which financial aid overages have occurred, a minimum 2-for-1 reduction in financial aid awards shall apply up to at least 20% of the team financial aid limit"

2-10 year show cause order is most likely for the coach directly involved

0-25% recruiting visit reduction

2-6 years of probation

(10-16-2015 10:17 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 08:44 AM)laxtonto Wrote:  This is just lazy reporting. The penalty structutr for these violations have changed multiple times through the years. Yes the punishments will be inconsistent. This is why it was such a big deal that UNC is on the old penalty structure and that SMU was not.. Here is the "new" penalty guidelines..

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Figure19-1.pdf

By looking at the chart, Standard Lvl 1 violations should be equal to:

1-2 year post season ban

Fine of 1-3% of the Football budget

0-25% scholarship reductions (hard to gauge here, but there is this "For cases in which financial aid overages have occurred, a minimum 2-for-1 reduction in financial aid awards shall apply up to at least 20% of the team financial aid limit"

2-10 year show cause order is most likely for the coach directly involved

0-25% recruiting visit reduction

2-6 years of probation

Huge range between 2-6 years of probation and 0-25% on scholarships.

(10-16-2015 10:19 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 10:17 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 08:44 AM)laxtonto Wrote:  This is just lazy reporting. The penalty structutr for these violations have changed multiple times through the years. Yes the punishments will be inconsistent. This is why it was such a big deal that UNC is on the old penalty structure and that SMU was not.. Here is the "new" penalty guidelines..

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Figure19-1.pdf

By looking at the chart, Standard Lvl 1 violations should be equal to:

1-2 year post season ban

Fine of 1-3% of the Football budget

0-25% scholarship reductions (hard to gauge here, but there is this "For cases in which financial aid overages have occurred, a minimum 2-for-1 reduction in financial aid awards shall apply up to at least 20% of the team financial aid limit"

2-10 year show cause order is most likely for the coach directly involved

0-25% recruiting visit reduction

2-6 years of probation

Huge range between 2-6 years of probation and 0-25% on scholarships.

What does probation actually do to the program, I mean if they "stay clean" during the probation period? Nothing?

(10-16-2015 10:24 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 10:19 AM)The4thOption Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 10:17 AM)ark30inf Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 08:44 AM)laxtonto Wrote:  This is just lazy reporting. The penalty structutr for these violations have changed multiple times through the years. Yes the punishments will be inconsistent. This is why it was such a big deal that UNC is on the old penalty structure and that SMU was not.. Here is the "new" penalty guidelines..

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/Figure19-1.pdf

By looking at the chart, Standard Lvl 1 violations should be equal to:

1-2 year post season ban

Fine of 1-3% of the Football budget

0-25% scholarship reductions (hard to gauge here, but there is this "For cases in which financial aid overages have occurred, a minimum 2-for-1 reduction in financial aid awards shall apply up to at least 20% of the team financial aid limit"

2-10 year show cause order is most likely for the coach directly involved

0-25% recruiting visit reduction

2-6 years of probation

Huge range between 2-6 years of probation and 0-25% on scholarships.

What does probation actually do to the program, I mean if they "stay clean" during the probation period? Nothing?

It will effect recruiting. Opposing recruiters will suggest its a Sword of Damocles.

(10-16-2015 11:47 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  I think ULL's self imposed penalties will be deemed to be sufficient punishment by the NCAA.

(10-16-2015 11:30 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  I predict the following. The NCAA Infractions Committee will review the rules carefully and in an unbiased manner, evaluate the sanctions imposed by the University giving due and proper weight to the those actions, and then release their comprehensive final decision. The results will be as follows:

1) Cajun fans will feel the final decision is too extreme
2) In-state Cajun opponents like the Necksters will feel that the final decision is not extreme enough
3) G5 fans will generally feel that the final decision punishes a G5 brother too severely while letting P5 programs slide
4) P5 fans will generally feel that the final decision is just right for the crimes committed by a lowly G5 program
5) Most everyone will not be able to make any sense out of what they were thinking with their final decision
6) And forum-banned poster Savacool will ejaculate for the first time in over 25 years

(10-16-2015 01:02 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  I couldn't resist.

(10-16-2015 10:23 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  The worst penalty has already begun as recruiting will take a hit.

(10-19-2015 05:29 PM)ButlerGSU Wrote:  

(10-16-2015 10:23 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  The worst penalty has already begun as recruiting will take a hit.

I would think this is the worst part as well. If they hold on to recruits and have good seasons over the next few years, everything else will be forgotten.

If they don't...