(04-19-2014 09:29 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  NMSU all-sports seems to be the lowest hanging of all the fruit. If that were to happen UMass for football-only would make sense. It would be a way to kind of balance out the travel on both sides of the conference. Each division stuck with one ridiculous road trip every other year. West gets Moscow, East gets Amherst/Foxboro.


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(04-19-2014 09:29 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  NMSU all-sports seems to be the lowest hanging of all the fruit. If that were to happen UMass for football-only would make sense. It would be a way to kind of balance out the travel on both sides of the conference. Each division stuck with one ridiculous road trip every other year. West gets Moscow, East gets Amherst/Foxboro.


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(04-19-2014 09:48 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 09:29 PM)Eagleditka Wrote:  NMSU all-sports seems to be the lowest hanging of all the fruit. If that were to happen UMass for football-only would make sense. It would be a way to kind of balance out the travel on both sides of the conference. Each division stuck with one ridiculous road trip every other year. West gets Moscow, East gets Amherst/Foxboro.


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But that doesn't get an all-sports travel partner for App that the Sun Belt seems to be so desperate to add. Unfortunately there is no easy solution and if I were the Sun Belt I'd ask UMass to join for just football and make the contract extremely beneficial to the conference. No sense in adding a potential long-term member if they may not be a fit. Take the temporary add so that it leaves you with options. I'm just sad to see my school be in the wrong position in this scenario.

(04-19-2014 12:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  JSU and EKU are only good options if the conference is in survival mode. Outside of that, they don't bring enough to the table and given the possibility of stipends for athletes, both would be in survival mode in FBS. JSU and EKU get invites if we drop below 9 football programs.

(04-19-2014 11:06 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 12:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  JSU and EKU are only good options if the conference is in survival mode. Outside of that, they don't bring enough to the table and given the possibility of stipends for athletes, both would be in survival mode in FBS. JSU and EKU get invites if we drop below 9 football programs.

And GaSo would not be in survival mode? All threes budgets are basically the same. JSU and EKU would probably be in better shape than GaSo.

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 11:06 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 12:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  JSU and EKU are only good options if the conference is in survival mode. Outside of that, they don't bring enough to the table and given the possibility of stipends for athletes, both would be in survival mode in FBS. JSU and EKU get invites if we drop below 9 football programs.

And GaSo would not be in survival mode? All threes budgets are basically the same. JSU and EKU would probably be in better shape than GaSo.

We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 11:06 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 12:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  JSU and EKU are only good options if the conference is in survival mode. Outside of that, they don't bring enough to the table and given the possibility of stipends for athletes, both would be in survival mode in FBS. JSU and EKU get invites if we drop below 9 football programs.

And GaSo would not be in survival mode? All threes budgets are basically the same. JSU and EKU would probably be in better shape than GaSo.

We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

(04-20-2014 07:52 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 11:06 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 12:59 PM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  JSU and EKU are only good options if the conference is in survival mode. Outside of that, they don't bring enough to the table and given the possibility of stipends for athletes, both would be in survival mode in FBS. JSU and EKU get invites if we drop below 9 football programs.

And GaSo would not be in survival mode? All threes budgets are basically the same. JSU and EKU would probably be in better shape than GaSo.

We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

adding schools like jsu and eku would just make stAte and U-laf that more determined to leave. I have family in jacksonville and they say they would never think of sending their kids there to school..we need to add better or stand pat.

(04-20-2014 08:43 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:52 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 11:06 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  And GaSo would not be in survival mode? All threes budgets are basically the same. JSU and EKU would probably be in better shape than GaSo.

We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

adding schools like jsu and eku would just make stAte and U-laf that more determined to leave. I have family in jacksonville and they say they would never think of sending their kids there to school..we need to add better or stand pat.

If it's a terrible place why do they stay?
What is so great about ULL and A State that separates them from EKU or JSU?

UTA? Can't say much about it as I never heard of it unless it mean UT Austin but most people in my area just call it Texas.

(04-20-2014 06:45 PM)runamuck Wrote:  I could live in thibodaux but not want my kids to go to nicholls state.

(04-20-2014 06:45 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 08:43 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:52 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

adding schools like jsu and eku would just make stAte and U-laf that more determined to leave. I have family in jacksonville and they say they would never think of sending their kids there to school..we need to add better or stand pat.

If it's a terrible place why do they stay?
What is so great about ULL and A State that separates them from EKU or JSU?

UTA? Can't say much about it as I never heard of it unless it mean UT Austin but most people in my area just call it Texas.

the town and the school are two different things...I could live in thibodaux but not want my kids to go to nicholls state. I'm sorry if you have no idea of the differences between those schools, there are many. as for uta, it's a pretty good school with a 12+ Billion dollar impact on the dfw area and can happily stand on it's own whether you have ever heard of it or not..if you cant imagine why stAte or U-laf and maybe a few others would want to bolt..maybe you should read up on the demise of the wac or the sw conference..not trying to ruffle feathers, just trying to add to the discussion..

(04-18-2014 01:29 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Liberty regional? As the largest Christian affiliated school in the world, it is a destination for many across the US. National tv network...national ad campaign...national champions and even an NCAA national record and so forth.

(04-20-2014 06:45 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 08:43 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:52 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

adding schools like jsu and eku would just make stAte and U-laf that more determined to leave. I have family in jacksonville and they say they would never think of sending their kids there to school..we need to add better or stand pat.

If it's a terrible place why do they stay?
What is so great about ULL and A State that separates them from EKU or JSU?

UTA? Can't say much about it as I never heard of it unless it mean UT Austin but most people in my area just call it Texas.

the town and the school are two different things...I could live in thibodaux but not want my kids to go to nicholls state. I'm sorry if you have no idea of the differences between those schools, there are many. as for uta, it's a pretty good school with a 12+ Billion dollar impact on the dfw area and can happily stand on it's own whether you have ever heard of it or not..if you cant imagine why stAte or U-laf and maybe a few others would want to bolt..maybe you should read up on the demise of the wac or the sw conference..not trying to ruffle feathers, just trying to add to the discussion..

(04-20-2014 07:47 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(04-18-2014 01:29 PM)Campaign4Liberty Wrote:  Liberty regional? As the largest Christian affiliated school in the world, it is a destination for many across the US. National tv network...national ad campaign...national champions and even an NCAA national record and so forth.

If it came down to a destination Christian school, I'd rather have Grand Canyon if they had a football team. They have made themselves extremely visible throughout the eastern US through WAY-FM (their morning jock recently got a degree from GCU), and through a number of concert tours.

Not to mention GCU is in Phoenix, which would be like adding another Atlanta to the conference. For practical reasons, it would be football only, but GCU would open up California and Nevada for TV purposes during football season.

(04-20-2014 08:43 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:52 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  

(04-19-2014 11:06 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  And GaSo would not be in survival mode? All threes budgets are basically the same. JSU and EKU would probably be in better shape than GaSo.

We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

adding schools like jsu and eku would just make stAte and U-laf that more determined to leave. I have family in jacksonville and they say they would never think of sending their kids there to school..we need to add better or stand pat.

If it's a terrible place why do they stay?
What is so great about ULL and A State that separates them from EKU or JSU?

UTA? Can't say much about it as I never heard of it unless it mean UT Austin but most people in my area just call it Texas.

(04-21-2014 11:59 AM)CrazyCajun Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 08:43 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:52 AM)runamuck Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 07:36 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(04-20-2014 06:20 AM)GSU Eagles Wrote:  We are already in and were added because the SBC was in survival mode. Jax would be added if we were once again in survival mode. As far as budgets, we have nearly 21k students as a base whereas jax only has 9.5k which will limit their access to resources.

If GaSo didn't deserve to be in FBS who did? Maybe I'm wrong but App and GaSo time had came to move to FBS.

adding schools like jsu and eku would just make stAte and U-laf that more determined to leave. I have family in jacksonville and they say they would never think of sending their kids there to school..we need to add better or stand pat.

If it's a terrible place why do they stay?
What is so great about ULL and A State that separates them from EKU or JSU?

UTA? Can't say much about it as I never heard of it unless it mean UT Austin but most people in my area just call it Texas.

What is so great about JSU or EKU that makes you think you are better? What do you bring to the SBC beyond being located in the foot print that others don't have? The difference to me is clear, both UL and Astate have accomplished something in the FBS, what has JSU or EKU?