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RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 05:13 PM (04-14-2014 04:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:52 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: AAC now has 8 primary tie ins and 3 backups for 12 teams. Maybe too many? Okay, lets say there are five bowl tie ins - NO, Go Daddy, Camellia, Orlando, and one of Boca/Bahamas. Whats the order for each team as far as preference? Here's my guess 1) USA - Go Daddy, New Orleans, Camellia, Orlando, Boca/Bahamas 2) ULL - New Orleans, Go Daddy, Orlando, Camelia, Boca/Bahamas 3) Troy - Camellia, Go Daddy, New Orleans, Orlando, Boca/Bahamas 4) ULM - New Orleans, Go Daddy, Camellia, Orlando, Boca/Bahamas 5) Arkansas State - New Orleans, Go Daddy, Camelia, Orlando, Boca/Bahamas 6) Texas State - New Orleans, Go Daddy, Orlando, Camelia, Boca/Bahamas 7) Georgia State - Camelia, Orlando New Orleans, Go Daddy, Boca/Bahamas 8) NMSU - New Orleans, Orlando, Boca (all SW flights from El Paso), Go Daddy, Camelia, Bahamas/ 9) Idaho - Orlando, New Orleans (cheapest flights from Spokane), Boca/Bahamas (warm climate), Go Daddy, Camelia 10) Ga Southern - Orlando, Camelia, New Orleans, Go Daddy, Boca/Bahamas 11) App - Orlando, New Orleans, Boca, Go Daddy, Camelia, Bahamas Remember, schools really like it when they don't lose money on the bowl game. If its drivable for most fans, then it makes it a lot cheaper for people to attend. If flights are required, cities with air competition usually do better. The Bahamas Bowl will be a huge money loser for any team participating. Re: RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - ark30inf - 04-14-2014 05:13 PM (04-14-2014 04:58 PM)theboro Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:46 PM)theboro Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:35 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 03:44 PM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: Now there's less incentive for teams to jump ship. #SBC CUSA has its own transitions and the gap between what they lost and what they got is large. I think the SBC gap is less due to the two historic FCS we picked up. Plus GaSt made progress, TXST did well, and USA is rising. You are right that NMSU and Idaho are clinkers, but if one can pick it up OOC it will help. Does that mean the SBC will catch up immediately? No, but the gap we were closing before is even narrower and that's a positive for us. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - chiefsfan - 04-14-2014 05:18 PM (04-14-2014 05:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:52 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: AAC now has 8 primary tie ins and 3 backups for 12 teams. Maybe too many? Swap Go Daddy and New Orleans on ASU's list and I think you have it close to right. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Atlanta Trojan - 04-14-2014 05:19 PM (04-14-2014 05:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:52 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: AAC now has 8 primary tie ins and 3 backups for 12 teams. Maybe too many? That's not my preference... Camelia would likely be a sell out and great for attendance but montgomery doesn't excite me.... Troy is basically a suburb of Montgomery. It's no fun destination. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 05:26 PM (04-14-2014 05:13 PM)ark30inf Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:58 PM)theboro Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:49 PM)ark30inf Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:46 PM)theboro Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:35 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: You are correct. CUSA has one thing over the SBC now with regards to bowls. And that is a bowl tie in with a P5 opponent. But most years that bowl tie in will not be a team from the P5 with a winning record. The Sun Belt was better than CUSA this past year and the year previous. Yea, next year this will be the competitive landscape for both conferences CUSA - gains a solid program with WKU. Loses Tulane, Tulsa, and ECU. Adds FCS newbie in ODU. UNT, Marshall, MTSU, WKU, and Rice look like they'll be trying for a bowl. UTSA or FAU might get there. Anyone else would be a surprise. It would also be a surprise if any team from that conference got the access bowl slot or was ranked. The bottom of the league (ODU, UAB, USM, UTEP, La Tech, FIU) will likely continue to drag the conference down Sun Belt - loses a solid program in WKU. Adds two newbies and two poorly performing teams. This will really hurt the league's overall profile, but will likely solidify the leagues other teams. Only one team is mired in problems at this point (Ga State). Teams probably bowling, USA, ULL, Texas State, Troy, Arkansas State. ULM might (but they lose a LOT from last years team). My guess is that the Belt ends up with 5-6 bowl eligibles (just the same as CUSA). However, I think its more likely the Sun Belt takes the bowl access slot and/or a top 25 ranking than a CUSA team does. The bottom of the Belt will likely struggle next year as the newbies adjust to live in Varsity and NMSU and Idaho try to recover from their Independent status. It might be three or four years before they actually get rosters that are competitive. In 2012 it was a surprise that the Belt did better than CUSA. Last year, it really wasn't a surprise. Next year, I think its a 50-50 year. After that, it all will be about getting your bottom teams competitive. The Belt will likely have another newbie joining. CUSA will have another newbie joining (UNCC). So the question going forward is.... who will be more competitive, CUSA's bottom lineup of FIU, UAB, USM, ODU, UNCC, and UTEP (I think La Tech will be back shortly), or the Sun Belt's lineup of Ga State, Ga Southern, Appalachian State, Idaho, and NMSU. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - chrisattsu - 04-14-2014 05:41 PM (04-14-2014 05:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:52 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: AAC now has 8 primary tie ins and 3 backups for 12 teams. Maybe too many? As a Texas State fan, my order would go 1. New Orleans - easy flight/drive, fun city, CUSA team 2. Orlando - Southwest flight, fun city, AAC team 3. Go Daddy - Mobile is "drivable", gives me an excuse to see family in Destin leading up to it. 4. Boca - Southwest flight. 5. Camellia / Bahamas. As for the Camellia vs Bahamas debate. I don't know much about Montgomery, but it doesn't sound a fun as New Orleans or Orlando. I see the Bahamas bowl like CUSA's Hawaii Bowl. Cool destination for those who can afford to go. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - slycat - 04-14-2014 05:44 PM (04-14-2014 05:41 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:58 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:(04-14-2014 04:52 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: AAC now has 8 primary tie ins and 3 backups for 12 teams. Maybe too many? I think you nailed it. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Louisianafanrcajun90 - 04-14-2014 05:50 PM Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 06:06 PM (04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. 30,000 buying plane tickets? That's a lot of money for a lot of people. And remember those tickets are gonna be somewhat expensive. You'll find that a lot of people will simply look at the difference between driving to New Orleans and staying with friends (or just coming back the same day) and spending 1500 bucks a couple to buy 2 plane tickets, rent a car, and get a hotel for 2-3 days and not go to Orlando. Driving games, especially ones where you don't need a hotel room are going to be much better attended. And therefore more desirable for the school. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Redwolves06 - 04-14-2014 06:09 PM (04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. Lol at bringing 30k fans...you can't even get that for home games RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Miami (Oh) Yeah ! - 04-14-2014 06:12 PM Nice job getting this bowl tie. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Louisianafanrcajun90 - 04-14-2014 06:13 PM (04-14-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. A lot of us live in NOLA. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - OsageJ - 04-14-2014 06:14 PM (04-14-2014 06:09 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. LOL...sometimes I think the guy is 12. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Miami (Oh) Yeah ! - 04-14-2014 06:14 PM Does anybody know who the TV partner is? Doesn't sound like an ESPN owned bowl like the others. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Atlanta Trojan - 04-14-2014 06:16 PM Lol 30k to Orlando by ULL? Highly doubt it. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 06:18 PM (04-14-2014 06:13 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:(04-14-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. Which is yet another reason why your attendance at the NO Bowl was so high. The only cost of going is the ticket price and parking. Add 1500 bucks a couple on top of those charges and you'll see those numbers fall much more dramatically. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Louisianafanrcajun90 - 04-14-2014 06:19 PM (04-14-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. NOLA has a ton of alumni that will take the flight. It's also a twofer with Disney and Universal. Folks from Acadian will make the trip either driving or by flight. They laughed at 48,000 for the NOLA Bowl. I stand by my 30,000 plus it could be more. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Atlanta Trojan - 04-14-2014 06:21 PM (04-14-2014 06:19 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:(04-14-2014 06:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. You have that many for new Orlando because lafayette is really close... Much like Troy is to montgomery... You would be lucky to have 20k there... Even the sec has problems bringing 30k to the non BCS games... Give me a break dude. RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - Redwolves06 - 04-14-2014 06:22 PM (04-14-2014 06:14 PM)OsageJ Wrote:(04-14-2014 06:09 PM)Redwolves06 Wrote:(04-14-2014 05:50 PM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Orlando is a short flight from New Orleans. We would bring 30,000 plus. It would also be a nice change from New Orleans. You bring the family and hit Disney and Universal. I agree! I honesty hope he's trolling with some of the things he comes up with RE: New Bowl In Orlando To Have Sunbelt Ties (begins 2014) - AppfanInCAAland - 04-14-2014 06:22 PM (04-14-2014 03:54 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:(04-14-2014 03:38 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote: If my math is correct, all these new bowls would have been enough for evey bowl eligible team had they been in place last year. Am I correct? There are five new bowls, correct? Montgomery, Boca, Miami, Orlando, Bahamas, but two slots are going away for the championship game, so that leaves 8 new bowl slots. I've got to think there will be enough at large/unfilled slots for just about every bowl eligible team. Many conferences would not have been able to fill their slots last year. |