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RE: SHSU to SBC - Liberty22 - 04-14-2014 10:48 AM
(04-14-2014 10:08 AM)SHWISH Wrote: There are plenty articles still has SHSU a candidate for SBC. I should have added this to the SHSU thread, I wasn't thinking.
Despite what you clowns think, I still believe Mo st and Lamar is in play for SBC while being in the west.
Jax st...no, location
Liberty...no, can't get votes or would have been added.
EKU...no, not ready to move in 30 days. 2-3 years from now, yes.
JMU...YES, NO, YES, MAYBE, NAH...Ball in JMU court. I am now leaning JMU says no because
more realignment is coming and JMU wants a better ship
Then who is left? mo st and Lamar
both school could work.
Add Lamar and mo st, nmsu goes all sports, Idaho leave, ULM goes east. perfect tight footprint.
This is the most idiotic argument of all. I see this posted all the time. By this logic than no one has the votes because no one has been added. We could equally say JMU doesn't have the votes since they weren't added. Does Liberty not have the votes? More than likely however we don't know. Last Monday everyone thought Liberty was in and then Tuesday everyone thought JMU. The only Fact on these boards about realignment is that we don't know who is in yet. We will in May.
RE: SHSU to SBC - MTPiKapp - 04-14-2014 10:55 AM
(04-14-2014 10:48 AM)asupatch Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:30 AM)SHWISH Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:23 AM)asupatch Wrote: Two things.can you at least say your reasoning? Lamar meets all requirement except stadium size.
1. Most misleading thread title ever.
2. Lamar has ZERO chance of a SBC invite anytime soon.
Stadium Size,winning tradition, no TV market(4th or 5th fiddle in Houston).
You can get a way with lacking in one or two of these areas but not all three.
4th or 5th? Even if you're just talking college football, there's no way.
Texas
aTm
LSU
Houston
Rice
And that still assumes Lamar is ahead of every other Texas FBS school(doubtful) and the other Houston area FCS teams.
RE: SHSU to SBC - asupatch - 04-14-2014 11:05 AM
(04-14-2014 10:55 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:48 AM)asupatch Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:30 AM)SHWISH Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:23 AM)asupatch Wrote: Two things.can you at least say your reasoning? Lamar meets all requirement except stadium size.
1. Most misleading thread title ever.
2. Lamar has ZERO chance of a SBC invite anytime soon.
Stadium Size,winning tradition, no TV market(4th or 5th fiddle in Houston).
You can get a way with lacking in one or two of these areas but not all three.
4th or 5th? Even if you're just talking college football, there's no way.
Texas
aTm
LSU
Houston
Rice
And that still assumes Lamar is ahead of every other Texas FBS school(doubtful) and the other Houston area FCS teams.
My mistake 8th or 9th fiddle. They also averaged 8k fans per game last year. Putting them roughly 50th in the FCS. Attendence figure is good for 9th in Division 2 football. Might be a better fit there.
RE: SHSU to SBC - JoeJag - 04-14-2014 11:44 AM
(04-14-2014 09:38 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: Who(outside of possibly FloridaJag) has ever said SHSU is a real candidate any time soon?
You know who else isn't a real candidate?
![[Image: lamar-ROTN.jpg]](http://photos.killervirgo.com/lamar-ROTN.jpg)
I do hope you mean Liberty.
RE: SHSU to SBC - TheRevSWT - 04-14-2014 12:09 PM
(04-14-2014 10:48 AM)Liberty22 Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:08 AM)SHWISH Wrote: Liberty...no, can't get votes or would have been added.
This is the most idiotic argument of all. I see this posted all the time. By this logic than no one has the votes because no one has been added. We could equally say JMU doesn't have the votes since they weren't added. Does Liberty not have the votes? More than likely however we don't know. Last Monday everyone thought Liberty was in and then Tuesday everyone thought JMU. The only Fact on these boards about realignment is that we don't know who is in yet. We will in May.
Actually it makes perfect sense. All the other schools have been hesitant for one reason or another (JMU: the feasibility study, holding out hope for a MAC invite. MSU: Not enough money, not ready to make the jump. EKU: Just recently stated intentions, and making moves to get there). Liberty, on the other hand, could make the move in a matter of days.
So, the fact of the matter is: Liberty wasn't invited last year or this year yet because they couldn't get the votes.
Could that change? Absolutely. Maybe some teams were holding out hope for JMU, and JMU shuts us down. Maybe the presidents don't like EKU much after looking into them. But it's easily traceable and makes total sense to say that Liberty did not have the votes to get an invite last year, or this year to date.
RE: SHSU to SBC - arkstfan - 04-14-2014 12:29 PM
MAC's commissioner was recently visiting with SHSU.
The MAC hosted the NCAA Bowling Championship.
RE: SHSU to SBC - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 12:33 PM
(04-14-2014 10:24 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:08 AM)SHWISH Wrote: Despite what you clowns think
Endearing...
![[Image: lamar-javelin-o.gif]](http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/3016190/lamar-javelin-o.gif)
LOL. I always think of Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds when Lamar gets brought up too.
RE: SHSU to SBC - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 12:37 PM
(04-14-2014 10:55 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:48 AM)asupatch Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:30 AM)SHWISH Wrote:(04-14-2014 10:23 AM)asupatch Wrote: Two things.can you at least say your reasoning? Lamar meets all requirement except stadium size.
1. Most misleading thread title ever.
2. Lamar has ZERO chance of a SBC invite anytime soon.
Stadium Size,winning tradition, no TV market(4th or 5th fiddle in Houston).
You can get a way with lacking in one or two of these areas but not all three.
4th or 5th? Even if you're just talking college football, there's no way.
Texas
aTm
LSU
Houston
Rice
And that still assumes Lamar is ahead of every other Texas FBS school(doubtful) and the other Houston area FCS teams.
Lamar is behind SHSU, Texas State, Texas Tech, Baylor, and any number of Big XII and SEC teams in Houston (and probably behind SFA). They have zero profile in Houston.
Beaumont has its own media market which it shares with Lake Charles.
SHSU by comparison is in a technically different TV market but one that includes much of the Northern suburbs of Houston. SHSU also proves its Houston ties by hosting a game at Reliant Stadium each year.
If you say "Lamar football" in Houston, 99% of the people will think you are talking about a high school in Houston's football team.
RE: SHSU to SBC - MTPiKapp - 04-14-2014 12:41 PM
(04-14-2014 11:44 AM)JoeJag Wrote:(04-14-2014 09:38 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: Who(outside of possibly FloridaJag) has ever said SHSU is a real candidate any time soon?
You know who else isn't a real candidate?
I do hope you mean Liberty.
For your sake I hope so to, but apparently they have a shot.
SHSU and Lamar are decidedly out of the picture in the immediate future.
RE: SHSU to SBC - asupatch - 04-14-2014 12:59 PM
At least SHSU has had some football success and has much better attendance figures.
RE: SHSU to SBC - SumItUp - 04-14-2014 01:35 PM
(04-14-2014 12:59 PM)asupatch Wrote: At least SHSU has had some football success and has much better attendance figures.
Many high schools in Texas have higher attendance averages than SHSU.
2013 - 7,040
2012 - 8,782 (played in the FCS championship game)
2011 - 8,083
2010 - 6,337
RE: SHSU to SBC - asupatch - 04-14-2014 02:18 PM
(04-14-2014 01:35 PM)SumItUp Wrote:(04-14-2014 12:59 PM)asupatch Wrote: At least SHSU has had some football success and has much better attendance figures.
Many high schools in Texas have higher attendance averages than SHSU.
2013 - 7,040
2012 - 8,782 (played in the FCS championship game)
2011 - 8,083
2010 - 6,337
Ouch, yeah never mind, sorry SHSU.
RE: SHSU to SBC - arkstfan - 04-14-2014 02:54 PM
Beyond the fact that Lamar seems to have better facilities than SHSU, let's be realistic. How attractive is a team in TEXAS that can't draw when they are competing at the top of FCS?
RE: SHSU to SBC - Tom in Lazybrook - 04-14-2014 02:56 PM
(04-14-2014 02:54 PM)arkstfan Wrote: Beyond the fact that Lamar seems to have better facilities than SHSU, let's be realistic. How attractive is a team in TEXAS that can't draw when they are competing at the top of FCS?
Do those numbers include the SFA vs SHSU neutral site game at Reliant Stadium every year?