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NDSU & EKU - MJG - 03-21-2014 02:09 PM
Why not invite NDSU football only and EKU for Olympic sports.
NDSU already plays in two conferences . EKU could be promised the next spot while building relationships in the SBC.
EKU would then have the time to gear up for FBS. Not sure of the distance but I am sure they could be APP 's travel partner.
Gives the conference better exposure and football with a built in cushion in case a team leaves. EKU could join the Big South for football only if necessary.
SBC would have 15 schools total in the main sports with a 12 and 12 split. That would be better than a 16 team conference less chance of any split. Maybe not ideal but it has the potential to be really good.
RE: NDSU & EKU - NCeagle - 03-21-2014 02:27 PM
that would suck for their travel costs.
RE: NDSU & EKU - Fredbrd7 - 03-21-2014 02:54 PM
Here is a current list of the all time winningest basketball schools in NCAA division 1 history. This would be a fairly objective source of who to add for a basketball school if you could get them. Note that Western Ky who is leaving is on the list and Eastern is not. Just because someone puts out a press sheet about FBS and happens to make the NCAA tournament does not mean they will be there year in and year out. These schools have shown that. Perhaps, you should be looking at another Ky school in Eastern's conference in Murray State. At least they are a bonafide basketball school.
1. Kentucky............................................... 1903 109 2,090 649 1 .763
2. North Carolina ................................... 1911 102 2,065 734 0 .738
3. Kansas .................................................... 1899 114 2,070 806 0 .720
4. UNLV ....................................................... 1959 54 1,133 456 0 .713
5. Duke ....................................................... 1906 107 1,971 834 0 .703
6. UCLA ...................................................... 1920 93 1,728 769 0 .692
7. Syracuse ................................................ 1901 111 1,844 822 0 .692
8. Western Ky. .......................................... 1915 93 1,655 828 0 .667
9. Louisville ............................................... 1912 98 1,662 864 0 .658
10. St. John’s (NY) ..................................... 1908 105 1,737 915 0 .655
11. Illinois ..................................................... 1906 107 1,667 897 0 .650
12. Notre Dame ........................................ 1898 107 1,723 939 1 .647
13. Temple ................................................... 1895 116 1,790 982 0 .646
14. Utah ........................................................ 1909 104 1,670 918 0 .645
15. Arizona .................................................. 1905 107 1,618 892 1 .645
16. Missouri St. .......................................... 1909 100 1,564 870 0 .643
17. Murray St. ............................................. 1926 87 1,480 825 0 .642
18. Connecticut ........................................ 1901 109 1,569 878 0 .641
19. VCU ......................................................... 1971 42 791 446 0 .639
20. Arkansas ............................................... 1924 89 1,537 867 0 .639
21. Indiana .................................................. 1901 112 1,690 959 0 .638
22. Villanova ............................................... 1921 92 1,564 889 0 .638
23. Weber St. .............................................. 1963 50 915 528 0 .634
24. Purdue ................................................... 1897 114 1,642 954 0 .633
25. Cincinnati ............................................. 1902 111 1,624 951 0 .631
26. Texas ....................................................... 1906 106 1,659 976 0 .630
27. Penn ....................................................... 1897 112 1,697 998 2 .630
28. UAB ......................................................... 1979 34 679 401 0 .629
29. Memphis .............................................. 1921 91 1,410 833 1 .629
30. Alabama ............................................... 1913 99 1,545 937 1 .622
31. North Carolina St. ............................. 1913 100 1,593 969 0 .622
32. BYU ......................................................... 1903 110 1,666 1,014 0 .622
33. Marquette ............................................ 1917 95 1,494 913 0 .621
34. Georgetown ........................................ 1907 104 1,544 955 0 .618
35. West Virginia ....................................... 1904 103 1,621 1,005 0 .617
36. Old Dominion .................................... 1951 62 1,041 646 0 .617
37. Princeton .............................................. 1901 112 1,619 1,014 0 .615
38. DePaul ................................................... 1924 89 1,379 875 0 .612
39. Tennessee ............................................ 1909 103 1,508 959 2 .611
40. Washington ......................................... 1896 110 1,665 1,079 0 .607
41. Oklahoma ............................................ 1908 105 1,529 992 0 .607
42. Akron ..................................................... 1902 111 1,456 946 0 .606
43. Jackson St. ........................................... 1951 61 1,045 683 0 .605
44. Ohio St. .................................................. 1899 111 1,529 1,001 0 .604
45. Stephen F. Austin .............................. 1925 86 1,320 873 0 .602
46. Creighton ............................................. 1912 95 1,437 961 0 .599
47. Oral Roberts ........................................ 1970 39 684 460 0 .598
48. Saint Joseph’s ..................................... 1910 103 1,519 1,022 0 .598
49. Michigan St. ........................................ 1899 113 1,525 1,027 0 .598
50. Holy Cross ............................................ 1901 93 1,312
RE: NDSU & EKU - slycat - 03-21-2014 04:11 PM
EKU up early on Kansas 23-14
RE: NDSU & EKU - TheRevSWT - 03-21-2014 04:31 PM
I don't understand the idea to invite NDSU. They are outside of the footprint that the Sun Belt is trying to build.
Just because the conference has stepped out of the footprint once doesn't mean that the entire notion of a footprint goes out the window.
RE: NDSU & EKU - slycat - 03-21-2014 04:31 PM
(03-21-2014 04:31 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote: I don't understand the idea to invite NDSU. They are outside of the footprint that the Sun Belt is trying to build.
Just because the conference has stepped out of the footprint once doesn't mean that the entire notion of a footprint goes out the window.
RPI boost
RE: NDSU & EKU - FoUTASportscaster - 03-21-2014 05:51 PM
RPI is irrelevant in football.
NDSU & EKU - slycat - 03-21-2014 05:59 PM
I thought SOS mattered for ranking to get into BCS game
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RE: NDSU & EKU - TheRevSWT - 03-21-2014 09:37 PM
(03-21-2014 05:59 PM)slycat Wrote: I thought SOS mattered for ranking to get into BCS game
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Do you REALLY believe that NDSU is the difference between a BCS bowl invite and another bowl for a Sun Belt team?
NDSU & EKU - slycat - 03-21-2014 09:51 PM
(03-21-2014 09:37 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote:(03-21-2014 05:59 PM)slycat Wrote: I thought SOS mattered for ranking to get into BCS game
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Do you REALLY believe that NDSU is the difference between a BCS bowl invite and another bowl for a Sun Belt team?
No but getting the marquee wins they get every year and stronger teams can't help. They are stronger than other options at this moment. Maybe I'm just dreaming haha
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RE: NDSU & EKU - MJG - 03-21-2014 11:24 PM
Maybe a. Two team strategy satisfies most. That is if JMU goes to the MAC and Missouri State is not ready no one wants Liberty and most believe EKU is not ready.
How else is the SBC going to get national attention with its current media deal. Big Sky and WAC fans at least have a passing interest. Why not add the Summit it is a different age with the Internet making distance less relevant.
RE: NDSU & EKU - Kittonhead - 03-22-2014 12:26 AM
Missouri State is in the process of completing a stadium renovation so I'm going to say they're ready to go.
With the CFP money guaranteeing 1.3 million per school, not including the G5 performance money or access bowl payout anyone in FCS practically has to move up if they get the invite.
A CUSA invite for a long while has been a no brainer for moving up because of its TV deal but now I think any FBS invite is a no brainer. There is no longer a "second way" where saving money on football scholarships is a competitive advantage.
RE: NDSU & EKU - SpiritCymbal - 03-22-2014 02:02 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24495371/north-dakota-states-big-success-leading-toward-a-big-decision
RE: NDSU & EKU - chiefsfan - 03-22-2014 02:07 AM
There is some logic to taking NDSU...it would certainly be a splash add. Free National attention, and a program that could come in and compete immediately. Strong fan base that has donors coming out of the woodworks. Extreme home field advantage that would make it a tough out in any home game.
That being said...the reality is the Bison could very easily be stuck simply because of Geography. Any invite would have to be football only...and I doubt being semi close to Idaho is really a standard for SBC Membership. NDSU is a nice fit if Idaho drops and we need a football only member. Probably not with Idaho in the league though.
RE: NDSU & EKU - Kittonhead - 03-22-2014 02:34 AM
I think you could upgrade Missouri State to the SBC and within a couple of recruiting classes they could have everything NDSU has in football and then some.
The SBC has talked about starting a bowl with the MAC in Little Rock and Missouri St would help get that going for the SBC. I see a lot of strategic value for the SBC in having MSU football.
The bottom line is with the SBC at the bottom of the FBS totem poll it has to get to 12 teams ASAP. Its not like the MAC where it can wait around for a few years at 13 when they already have a championship game and the only real moving part is UMass. Programs will always be sucked up from the SBC if there is any movement. They have to push to 12 just to ensure survival.
RE: NDSU & EKU - GaSouthern - 03-22-2014 08:13 AM
If I were the MAC I would have added NDSU this season.
RE: NDSU & EKU - Tom in Lazybrook - 03-22-2014 01:21 PM
NDSU is the best FCS team. They need a new stadium and a desire to move up. If they committed to both, I'd prefer them to JMU.
RE: NDSU & EKU - RoyK - 03-22-2014 02:49 PM
(03-22-2014 08:13 AM)GaSouthern Wrote: If I were the MAC I would have added NDSU this season.
I agree as well. They would be a strong add.
RE: NDSU & EKU - slycat - 03-22-2014 04:16 PM
I think the MAC is their best option. Or maybe if MWC wants to expand.
RE: NDSU & EKU - Eagleditka - 03-22-2014 06:02 PM
(03-21-2014 04:31 PM)TheRevSWT Wrote: I don't understand the idea to invite NDSU. They are outside of the footprint that the Sun Belt is trying to build.
Just because the conference has stepped out of the footprint once doesn't mean that the entire notion of a footprint goes out the window.
Instant credibility. Excellent in football, basketball, and baseball. North Dakota is booming right now. They are the FCS program most prepared for the next level.