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Roughing the QB. - Louisianafanrcajun90 - 10-16-2013 06:11 AM
Make no doubt about it, we hit WKU QB Doughty late but it made me wonder about the rule. Our player left his feet when Doughty was still in a throwing motion and had the ball. Timed just a second sooner and its a legal sack. I'm all for protecting the QB's and I'm glad Doughty is not seriously injured. I do think we are asking a lot of a young kid that is taught to get that QB. Perhaps they should make it illegal for defensive players to launch themselves?
RE: Roughing the QB. - mathenis89 - 10-16-2013 07:58 AM
Give it a rest. You won. Drop it.
RE: Roughing the QB. - HeartOfDixie - 10-16-2013 08:29 AM
To be quite honest, I didn't think he was odd his feet at any point. It was a late hit clear and simple.
RE: Roughing the QB. - Louisianafanrcajun90 - 10-16-2013 09:29 AM
(10-16-2013 08:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: To be quite honest, I didn't think he was odd his feet at any point. It was a late hit clear and simple.
I could be wrong but I thought our guy left his feet. Still a late hit.
RE: Roughing the QB. - AstroCajun - 10-16-2013 09:30 AM
Didn't have a problem with the call. It did knock him out of the game. I can't abide the same flag when a hand touches the QB's helmet without the least bit of damage.
RE: Roughing the QB. - HeartOfDixie - 10-16-2013 09:32 AM
(10-16-2013 09:29 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:(10-16-2013 08:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: To be quite honest, I didn't think he was odd his feet at any point. It was a late hit clear and simple.
I could be wrong but I thought our guy left his feet. Still a late hit.
I only saw the replay with it almost out of view.
Something I was somewhat upset about were the two completely missed horse collar tackles.
I don't mean to suggest there was any kind if motive, there certainly isn't, but rules that are designed to protect the kids need to get the same kind of attention and a lot of officials seem to think the horse collar rule is less important than targeting etc.
RE: Roughing the QB. - TroyFootball05 - 10-16-2013 10:17 AM
I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
RE: Roughing the QB. - CajunExpress - 10-16-2013 10:28 AM
(10-16-2013 10:17 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
No doubt the hit on the QB was a tad late, and by that I MEAN a tad. Had a couple of other late hit penalties that were borderline.
Finally Hud and Bustle teams consistently rank very high as teams that do not get those type penalties. The last thing I need to hear is from a Troy fan about them when his team consistently ranks very high in getting them.
When it comes to dirty play, Troy is in a class all by itself, very dirty.
RE: Roughing the QB. - CajunExpress - 10-16-2013 10:32 AM
(10-16-2013 09:29 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:(10-16-2013 08:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: To be quite honest, I didn't think he was odd his feet at any point. It was a late hit clear and simple.
I could be wrong but I thought our guy left his feet. Still a late hit.
As as is the norm, your view is totally wrong.
Check you DVR and you will see he was merely a little late. Oh, I forgot you do not have a DVR BECAUSE nobody donated one to you.
RE: Roughing the QB. - Complacent Cajun - 10-16-2013 10:36 AM
(10-16-2013 10:28 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:17 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
No doubt the hit on the QB was a tad late, and by that I MEAN a tad. Had a couple of other late hit penalties that were borderline.
Finally Hud and Bustle teams consistently rank very high as teams that do not get those type penalties. The last thing I need to hear is from a Troy fan about them when his team consistently ranks very high in getting them.
When it comes to dirty play, Troy is in a class all by itself, very dirty.
Kind of uncalled for and really abrasive amigo. Relax.
RE: Roughing the QB. - CajunExpress - 10-16-2013 10:37 AM
All I am saying is check out the Troy record over a few years.
RE: Roughing the QB. - HeartOfDixie - 10-16-2013 10:38 AM
(10-16-2013 10:32 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:(10-16-2013 09:29 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote:(10-16-2013 08:29 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: To be quite honest, I didn't think he was odd his feet at any point. It was a late hit clear and simple.
I could be wrong but I thought our guy left his feet. Still a late hit.
As as is the norm, your view is totally wrong.
Check you DVR and you will see he was merely a little late. Oh, I forgot you do not have a DVR BECAUSE nobody donated one to you.
It was a good call in my opinion.
RE: Roughing the QB. - TroyFootball05 - 10-16-2013 11:01 AM
(10-16-2013 10:28 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:17 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
No doubt the hit on the QB was a tad late, and by that I MEAN a tad. Had a couple of other late hit penalties that were borderline.
Finally Hud and Bustle teams consistently rank very high as teams that do not get those type penalties. The last thing I need to hear is from a Troy fan about them when his team consistently ranks very high in getting them.
When it comes to dirty play, Troy is in a class all by itself, very dirty.
(10-16-2013 10:37 AM)CajunExpress Wrote: All I am saying is check out the Troy record over a few years.
What's your problem man? How did what I said have anything to do, or warrant a bashing of Troy?
RE: Roughing the QB. - mathenis89 - 10-16-2013 11:11 AM
(10-16-2013 11:01 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:28 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:17 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
No doubt the hit on the QB was a tad late, and by that I MEAN a tad. Had a couple of other late hit penalties that were borderline.
Finally Hud and Bustle teams consistently rank very high as teams that do not get those type penalties. The last thing I need to hear is from a Troy fan about them when his team consistently ranks very high in getting them.
When it comes to dirty play, Troy is in a class all by itself, very dirty.
(10-16-2013 10:37 AM)CajunExpress Wrote: All I am saying is check out the Troy record over a few years.
What's your problem man? How did what I said have anything to do, or warrant a bashing of Troy?
Seems hypocritical too, considering ULL players were mouthing off the entire game and shoving players back down after plays were over.
RE: Roughing the QB. - Complacent Cajun - 10-16-2013 11:33 AM
(10-16-2013 11:11 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:(10-16-2013 11:01 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:28 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:17 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
No doubt the hit on the QB was a tad late, and by that I MEAN a tad. Had a couple of other late hit penalties that were borderline.
Finally Hud and Bustle teams consistently rank very high as teams that do not get those type penalties. The last thing I need to hear is from a Troy fan about them when his team consistently ranks very high in getting them.
When it comes to dirty play, Troy is in a class all by itself, very dirty.
(10-16-2013 10:37 AM)CajunExpress Wrote: All I am saying is check out the Troy record over a few years.
What's your problem man? How did what I said have anything to do, or warrant a bashing of Troy?
Seems hypocritical too, considering ULL players were mouthing off the entire game and shoving players back down after plays were over.
Of course I'm bias, but Boyd/Jackson/Andrews seemed to be mouthing off quite a bit themselves. Glad we won the way we did, running right at Boyd and Jackson the entire night.
Re: RE: Roughing the QB. - trojanbrutha - 10-16-2013 12:00 PM
(10-16-2013 06:11 AM)Louisianafanrcajun90 Wrote: Make no doubt about it, we hit WKU QB Doughty late but it made me wonder about the rule. Our player left his feet when Doughty was still in a throwing motion and had the ball. Timed just a second sooner and its a legal sack. I'm all for protecting the QB's and I'm glad Doughty is not seriously injured. I do think we are asking a lot of a young kid that is taught to get that QB. Perhaps they should make it illegal for defensive players to launch themselves?
SBC suspended a Troy DE, after a weekend review, for a similar hit...eerily similar, against south. Cross your fingers they don't suspend him.
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RE: Roughing the QB. - chiefsfan - 10-16-2013 01:18 PM
The way NCAA rules are written, if the defender leaves his feet at all, its going to be a penalty every time.
RE: Roughing the QB. - BamaCajun - 10-16-2013 02:03 PM
(10-16-2013 11:11 AM)mathenis89 Wrote:(10-16-2013 11:01 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:28 AM)CajunExpress Wrote:(10-16-2013 10:17 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: I don't think there should be a separate penalty. Essentially, it's a late hit. I also don't think it should be called unless significant time has passed (enough time for the player to change his direction) or its obvious the defensive player just wanted a piece a QB after the ball was out.
That said, I didn't watch the pay in question, though I did watch most of the game. So I can't answer for that particular play.
No doubt the hit on the QB was a tad late, and by that I MEAN a tad. Had a couple of other late hit penalties that were borderline.
Finally Hud and Bustle teams consistently rank very high as teams that do not get those type penalties. The last thing I need to hear is from a Troy fan about them when his team consistently ranks very high in getting them.
When it comes to dirty play, Troy is in a class all by itself, very dirty.
(10-16-2013 10:37 AM)CajunExpress Wrote: All I am saying is check out the Troy record over a few years.
What's your problem man? How did what I said have anything to do, or warrant a bashing of Troy?
Seems hypocritical too, considering ULL players were mouthing off the entire game and shoving players back down after plays were over.
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RE: Roughing the QB. - TheRevSWT - 10-16-2013 02:10 PM
(10-16-2013 01:18 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: The way NCAA rules are written, if the defender leaves his feet at all, its going to be a penalty every time.
For reals? That's crazy.
RE: Roughing the QB. - Louisianafanrcajun90 - 10-16-2013 08:27 PM
(10-16-2013 01:18 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: The way NCAA rules are written, if the defender leaves his feet at all, its going to be a penalty every time.
I don't think that is a bad rule when it comes to the QB. Turning yourself into a human missile can end real badly for the missile and the target.