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JMU - Whats the Plan - Tom in Lazybrook - 03-24-2013 09:12 PM
Just curious if anyone has anyone has any knowledge as to what JMU's plan is going forward.
They have choices. Here they seem to be
1) Do nothing and stay in the CAA. Hope that the conference can stabilize itself or that another solution not currently on the table presents itself. There are lots of risks with this strategy, most namely that FCS interest will fall back as traditional rivals move up. And that the basketball program will suffer as the basketball product is downgraded. Obviously, there is the hope that CUSA or the MAC will come calling.
2) Prioritize FBS football and try to join the Sun Belt. I've heard rumors that JMU has already turned the Belt down. Oly expenses will increase, and mens basketball would be playing in a lower tier conference.
3) Prioritize Basketball. Persue a conference that focuses on basketball. The problem is that they have to find a solution that gives the football team a home.
It seems to me that JMU has five places to go. The MAC, CUSA, the Belt, the CAA, or the Southern. My guess is that the MAC and CUSA are off the table.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Minutemen429 - 03-24-2013 10:05 PM
The MAC has the ace in the hole UMass to say all sports in or your football is out and JMU or UD would be the most likely candidates to get to 14.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Ned Low - 03-24-2013 10:24 PM
Serious question: why would the MAC not be interested in JMU for all sports? For the matter, why would the A10 not be interested in them for basketball?
Re: JMU - Whats the Plan - hburg - 03-24-2013 10:34 PM
I am hoping JMU finds s home and that our admin are not being a bunch of wasted drunks.
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RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - chess - 03-25-2013 12:11 AM
It seems logical that JMU try to expand with Charlotte and Old Dominion. If they can, Marshall, JMU, Charlotte, and Old Dominion make a nice corner for C-USA East.
I think JMU and William & Mary have some decisions to make on how they want athletics and football to fit into their future.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Louis Kitton - 03-25-2013 12:22 AM
When the CAA loses Old Dominion, Virginia Commonwealth and George Mason......James Madison has to do something.
Travel costs are going to soar for JMU with those Virginia schools out of there. I guess Delaware and Towson are within 3-4 hours yet. William & Mary is 3 hours.
I don't think its inconceivable that the MAC would go out to offer JMU, Delaware and Towson as a group upgrading to FBS. All 3 have been discussed at one time or another as potential MAC members.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Louis Kitton - 03-25-2013 12:23 AM
(03-25-2013 12:11 AM)chess Wrote: It seems logical that JMU try to expand with Charlotte and Old Dominion. If they can, Marshall, JMU, Charlotte, and Old Dominion make a nice corner for C-USA East.
Or a nice corner in the MAC East...
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - chess - 03-25-2013 12:33 AM
nfm
JMU - Whats the Plan - Dukes09 - 03-25-2013 12:49 AM
Who the **** knows anymore?
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Love and Honor - 03-25-2013 08:15 AM
(03-24-2013 10:24 PM)Ned Low Wrote: Serious question: why would the MAC not be interested in JMU for all sports? For the matter, why would the A10 not be interested in them for basketball?
I think that the Big Ten's eastern expansion would keep us in their shadows if we expand that direction, an option not ideal. Should UMass join in full, JMU will probably follow since both of them are good enough schools to add regardless. However, if UMass leaves, we might abandon our eastern strategy and pursue WKU/Missouri State/stAte/ULL like the rumors have stated.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Poliicious - 03-25-2013 08:26 AM
Another factor for JMU to consider is the MAC has divisions for football and Men's & Women's hoops. When they are added, BGSU will move to the West which means JMU will only have 1 team west of Cleveland (Miami) in the MAC East those sports which cuts down on the travel costs quite a bit. Getting the 2nd largest FBS program in VA would be a coup for the MAC
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - JMU2004 - 03-25-2013 08:42 AM
I think we're f'ed......Incompetent administration that can't get out of their own way
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - swampbear - 03-25-2013 08:42 AM
(03-25-2013 12:49 AM)Dukes09 Wrote: Who the **** knows anymore?
Pretty much the attitude down here also......looking at all possible scenarios can make you nuts....
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Louis Kitton - 03-25-2013 08:48 AM
(03-25-2013 08:26 AM)Poliicious Wrote: Another factor for JMU to consider is the MAC has divisions for football and Men's & Women's hoops. When they are added, BGSU will move to the West which means JMU will only have 1 team west of Cleveland (Miami) in the MAC East those sports which cuts down on the travel costs quite a bit. Getting the 2nd largest FBS program in VA would be a coup for the MAC
Yes!
Let's say the MAC decides to go out and add James Madison and Delaware all sports. Bowling Green of course moves to the West and JMU would have 2 bus rides in the conference (Ohio, Delaware).
When UMass was first added the tentative schedule had Bowling Green to the West and no permanent crossovers. Each MAC East program was set to play 6 divisional games with 2 crossovers.
I suppose the MAC could continue to play on with 15 in football with UMass in the East football only. That would be similar to what they are doing with 13 in football right today in scheduling with one division having 7 teams while the other has 6.
Playing the other schools in the MAC East like Buffalo, Kent State, Akron would be less a travel cost thing as those schools are 6+ hours away and more of a "avoiding the directional Michigan schools" thing where there would not be much playing the MAC West schools.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Dukes09 - 03-25-2013 08:52 AM
(03-25-2013 08:42 AM)swampbear Wrote:(03-25-2013 12:49 AM)Dukes09 Wrote: Who the **** knows anymore?
Pretty much the attitude down here also......looking at all possible scenarios can make you nuts....
no, it's more about how endlessly incompetent our athletic director, vp of finance and president are. they fail to grasp the concept of, "sitting still is falling behind".
Here's a business example to parallel our situaiton. Blockbuster was a video rental giant in america. Then the Netflix concept came around. Blockbuster laughed at it and thought the idea and concept was "a niche market". Now Blockbuster is bankrupt.
Our administrators' arrogance and perception about other conferences as being "beneath them" has lead them to turn down advances from CUSA (pre-ecu leaving), MAC (pre-umass joining), the old WAC (that's understandable) and now the SBC (literally the only remaining option for us).
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Dr. Isaly von Yinzer - 03-25-2013 09:10 AM
I am an Ohio U alum and one of my best friends is a JMU alum. I have made that trip a ton of times and the campuses are STRIKINGLY similar and not that far apart (about 4:30 or so). I think JMU would fit very well into the MAC.
Delaware too would fit well in the MAC, IMHO but that is a much further drive.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - mturn017 - 03-25-2013 10:30 AM
(03-25-2013 08:26 AM)Poliicious Wrote: Another factor for JMU to consider is the MAC has divisions for football and Men's & Women's hoops. When they are added, BGSU will move to the West which means JMU will only have 1 team west of Cleveland (Miami) in the MAC East those sports which cuts down on the travel costs quite a bit. Getting the 2nd largest FBS program in VA would be a coup for the MAC
UVA?
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - HP-TBDPITL - 03-25-2013 11:16 AM
The plan seems to be....hope the phone rings.
JMU is sitting behind Delaware...everyone will call Delaware before they will call JMU. MAC, CUSA, Sun Belt...
That's not hating on JMU, but the flagship, market and academic angles all favor Delaware.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - HP-TBDPITL - 03-25-2013 11:18 AM
(03-25-2013 10:30 AM)mturn017 Wrote:(03-25-2013 08:26 AM)Poliicious Wrote: Another factor for JMU to consider is the MAC has divisions for football and Men's & Women's hoops. When they are added, BGSU will move to the West which means JMU will only have 1 team west of Cleveland (Miami) in the MAC East those sports which cuts down on the travel costs quite a bit. Getting the 2nd largest FBS program in VA would be a coup for the MAC
UVA?
Just adding to your point...
VT
UVA
ODU
And Richmond has won a FCS title not too long ago.
RE: JMU - Whats the Plan - Dukes09 - 03-25-2013 11:39 AM
(03-25-2013 11:18 AM)HP-TBDPITL Wrote:(03-25-2013 10:30 AM)mturn017 Wrote:(03-25-2013 08:26 AM)Poliicious Wrote: Another factor for JMU to consider is the MAC has divisions for football and Men's & Women's hoops. When they are added, BGSU will move to the West which means JMU will only have 1 team west of Cleveland (Miami) in the MAC East those sports which cuts down on the travel costs quite a bit. Getting the 2nd largest FBS program in VA would be a coup for the MAC
UVA?
Just adding to your point...
VT
UVA
ODU
And Richmond has won a FCS title not too long ago.
William and Mary is ahead of Richmond in the VA CFB relevance scale. JMU is fourth unless Liberty gets an FBS invite. Richmond is 7th best VA CFB program.