(11-25-2010 03:27 PM)MG61 Wrote:  Just an unsubstantiated rumor at this point. We'll see soon enough as the new coach will be announced Tuesday or Wednesday.

Dan McCarney, Florida Gator DL coach and former Iowa State coach to UNT with a base salary of $585,000 and total package of $950,00 with incentives.

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(11-25-2010 04:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  In four and a half seasons Todd Dodge won 9 games, in 3 games Mike Canales has won 2, beaten Middle Tennessee(who Dodge was 0-4 against), beaten WKU far worse than Dodge ever did and played Troy within a touchdown(a team that blew Dodge's teams out 3 out of 4 times) and yet this guy out of Florida is the answer?

(11-25-2010 04:43 PM)Paul of Troy Wrote:  

(11-25-2010 04:21 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  In four and a half seasons Todd Dodge won 9 games, in 3 games Mike Canales has won 2, beaten Middle Tennessee(who Dodge was 0-4 against), beaten WKU far worse than Dodge ever did and played Troy within a touchdown(a team that blew Dodge's teams out 3 out of 4 times) and yet this guy out of Florida is the answer?

This.

(11-25-2010 06:59 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  I say stick with Canales. I like what he is doing with the Mean Green.

(11-25-2010 07:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Since Iowa State joined in the Big 8 in 1920-whatever only three coaches have had a career winning record there. Some guy in WWII, Earl Bruce, and the current coach. Problem might be more Iowa State than who they've hired.

(11-25-2010 07:38 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote:  

(11-25-2010 07:05 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  Since Iowa State joined in the Big 8 in 1920-whatever only three coaches have had a career winning record there. Some guy in WWII, Earl Bruce, and the current coach. Problem might be more Iowa State than who they've hired.

Just look at what Gene Chizik has done since leaving Iowa State.

(11-25-2010 04:16 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Didn't he washout at Iowa State? Why would they pay so much for that guy? Is he more suited as a coordinator than as a HC?

ULM is paying $150,000 to $175,000 plus incentives...is it all about the amount you pay in salary, or is it about the type of system the coach runs and the recruits they can bring in?

(11-25-2010 10:06 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(11-25-2010 04:16 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Didn't he washout at Iowa State? Why would they pay so much for that guy? Is he more suited as a coordinator than as a HC?

ULM is paying $150,000 to $175,000 plus incentives...is it all about the amount you pay in salary, or is it about the type of system the coach runs and the recruits they can bring in?

Actually it is both, including scheduling. In talking to our coaches, Berry has done a tremendous job of weeding out the low hanging fruit in the ULM program. As an offensive mind, he has the reputation of developing quarterbacks and has done a tremendous job with Browning. ULM is no longer exempt from APR in football, so I don't think you will see Berry take as many chances on certain athletes as Weatherby did over the last few years in Monroe.

Having the money to make a quality HC hire and pay a good staff is the best way to gain improvement in a program percentage wise. We will see what happens with the Berry regime in Monroe over the next few years once staffs see enough of his offense in the SBC.

(11-25-2010 10:06 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(11-25-2010 04:16 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Didn't he washout at Iowa State? Why would they pay so much for that guy? Is he more suited as a coordinator than as a HC?

ULM is paying $150,000 to $175,000 plus incentives...is it all about the amount you pay in salary, or is it about the type of system the coach runs and the recruits they can bring in?

Actually it is both, including scheduling. In talking to our coaches, Berry has done a tremendous job of weeding out the low hanging fruit in the ULM program. As an offensive mind, he has the reputation of developing quarterbacks and has done a tremendous job with Browning. ULM is no longer exempt from APR in football, so I don't think you will see Berry take as many chances on certain athletes as Weatherby did over the last few years in Monroe.

Having the money to make a quality HC hire and pay a good staff is the best way to gain improvement in a program percentage wise. We will see what happens with the Berry regime in Monroe over the next few years once staffs see enough of his offense in the SBC.

(11-26-2010 10:06 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  I personnaly like what Cannales is doing at UNT. You would think that would get him some consideration. Question is: Is it the team rallying around the interim because the head coach got fired or is he getting something out of those players that Dodge could not? Obviously, there is the question of "can he recruit".

As far as Berry goes, only time will tell. He has cleaned out most of the bad apples. We all thought this would be a very rough year, especially with all the Freshmen and RS Freshman that would be starting and playing. Plus, we lost a ton on defense. But it looks like that gamble is paying off and won more than most people predicted. I don't think you are going to see chance taking on recruits from Berry. He appears to be looking for certain types of players with the right characters. Like always, it will be "can we keep the assistants." Too much money to be made elswhere.

Now, if ULL doesn't piss in our wheaties Saturday, hopefully I will be planning my trip somewhere in December!!

(11-26-2010 11:17 AM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(11-26-2010 10:06 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  I personnaly like what Cannales is doing at UNT. You would think that would get him some consideration. Question is: Is it the team rallying around the interim because the head coach got fired or is he getting something out of those players that Dodge could not? Obviously, there is the question of "can he recruit".

As far as Berry goes, only time will tell. He has cleaned out most of the bad apples. We all thought this would be a very rough year, especially with all the Freshmen and RS Freshman that would be starting and playing. Plus, we lost a ton on defense. But it looks like that gamble is paying off and won more than most people predicted. I don't think you are going to see chance taking on recruits from Berry. He appears to be looking for certain types of players with the right characters. Like always, it will be "can we keep the assistants." Too much money to be made elswhere.

Now, if ULL doesn't piss in our wheaties Saturday, hopefully I will be planning my trip somewhere in December!!

I don't know who ULL is, but I know that UL is having a hard time pissing on our own feet, so I think you guys will be in a bowl this year.

(11-26-2010 11:46 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(11-26-2010 11:17 AM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(11-26-2010 10:06 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  I personnaly like what Cannales is doing at UNT. You would think that would get him some consideration. Question is: Is it the team rallying around the interim because the head coach got fired or is he getting something out of those players that Dodge could not? Obviously, there is the question of "can he recruit".

As far as Berry goes, only time will tell. He has cleaned out most of the bad apples. We all thought this would be a very rough year, especially with all the Freshmen and RS Freshman that would be starting and playing. Plus, we lost a ton on defense. But it looks like that gamble is paying off and won more than most people predicted. I don't think you are going to see chance taking on recruits from Berry. He appears to be looking for certain types of players with the right characters. Like always, it will be "can we keep the assistants." Too much money to be made elswhere.

Now, if ULL doesn't piss in our wheaties Saturday, hopefully I will be planning my trip somewhere in December!!

I don't know who ULL is, but I know that UL is having a hard time pissing on our own feet, so I think you guys will be in a bowl this year.

ULL is that school in Lafayette, Louisiana. UL is that school in Louisville, KY

(11-26-2010 11:46 AM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  

(11-26-2010 11:17 AM)cajun4life Wrote:  

(11-26-2010 10:06 AM)InjunJohn Wrote:  I personnaly like what Cannales is doing at UNT. You would think that would get him some consideration. Question is: Is it the team rallying around the interim because the head coach got fired or is he getting something out of those players that Dodge could not? Obviously, there is the question of "can he recruit".

As far as Berry goes, only time will tell. He has cleaned out most of the bad apples. We all thought this would be a very rough year, especially with all the Freshmen and RS Freshman that would be starting and playing. Plus, we lost a ton on defense. But it looks like that gamble is paying off and won more than most people predicted. I don't think you are going to see chance taking on recruits from Berry. He appears to be looking for certain types of players with the right characters. Like always, it will be "can we keep the assistants." Too much money to be made elswhere.

Now, if ULL doesn't piss in our wheaties Saturday, hopefully I will be planning my trip somewhere in December!!

I don't know who ULL is, but I know that UL is having a hard time pissing on our own feet, so I think you guys will be in a bowl this year.

ULL is that school in Lafayette, Louisiana. UL is that school in Louisville, KY

(11-26-2010 09:30 AM)SOT1977 Wrote:  

(11-25-2010 10:06 PM)CajunT Wrote:  

(11-25-2010 04:16 PM)bluephi1914 Wrote:  Didn't he washout at Iowa State? Why would they pay so much for that guy? Is he more suited as a coordinator than as a HC?

ULM is paying $150,000 to $175,000 plus incentives...is it all about the amount you pay in salary, or is it about the type of system the coach runs and the recruits they can bring in?

Actually it is both, including scheduling. In talking to our coaches, Berry has done a tremendous job of weeding out the low hanging fruit in the ULM program. As an offensive mind, he has the reputation of developing quarterbacks and has done a tremendous job with Browning. ULM is no longer exempt from APR in football, so I don't think you will see Berry take as many chances on certain athletes as Weatherby did over the last few years in Monroe.

Having the money to make a quality HC hire and pay a good staff is the best way to gain improvement in a program percentage wise. We will see what happens with the Berry regime in Monroe over the next few years once staffs see enough of his offense in the SBC.

Berry is happy in Monroe, liked the place when he was here the last time. With his contract recently extended another year to 2013 he is intending to stay here at least that long (or so he says). The worry we have is how long his assistants will stay. Our DC, Reffert, is always getting inquiries from other staffs about how he runs that 3-3-5. He's working with a bunch of youngsters this season but he proved the thing worked last year.

It could be said that over the next few years that Berry will make changes in his offense to stay on top of whatever defenses are drawn up by opposing SBC teams, which is what all coaches have to do each season. Right now he works a combination of the spread and the pistol (Nevada lives off the pistol). The pistol is an odd looking offense since it looks like you're running the Statue of Liberty play almost all the time. It drives me crazy to see Browning do a play with his back to the rush but it seems to work.