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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.
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(03-07-2024 09:02 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  I would disagree with you on CUSA having a strong basketball season. This is probably the worst CUSA basketball has been since at least 2012 when we joined the league.

And yet, MT is in the middle of the pack at 7 and 8.
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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
(03-08-2024 03:44 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.

Which conference has the most WBB National Championship banners hanging in the rafters?
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(03-08-2024 03:46 PM)NotANewbie Wrote:  
(03-07-2024 09:02 AM)MT FAN Wrote:  I would disagree with you on CUSA having a strong basketball season. This is probably the worst CUSA basketball has been since at least 2012 when we joined the league.

And yet, MT is in the middle of the pack at 7 and 8.

Those aren't mutually exclusive statements.
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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
(03-08-2024 03:57 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:44 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.

Which conference has the most WBB National Championship banners hanging in the rafters?

Speaking of that, WTH happened to the great WBB program at LTU?
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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
(03-08-2024 05:43 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:57 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:44 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.

Which conference has the most WBB National Championship banners hanging in the rafters?

Speaking of that, WTH happened to the great WBB program at LTU?

TV money from football and the men's tournament got invested into WBB by the big rich schools in the region. Then we made a couple of bad hires. The Big 12 and SEC schools had blown by us on coaching salaries and support staff and facilities and we had let the name brand value slip away.

Life comes at you fast and our margin for error was never going to be big once the money got big enough at the P5 level.
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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
(03-08-2024 05:52 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 05:43 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:57 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:44 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.

Which conference has the most WBB National Championship banners hanging in the rafters?

Speaking of that, WTH happened to the great WBB program at LTU?

TV money from football and the men's tournament got invested into WBB by the big rich schools in the region. Then we made a couple of bad hires. The Big 12 and SEC schools had blown by us on coaching salaries and support staff and facilities and we had let the name brand value slip away.

Life comes at you fast and our margin for error was never going to be big once the money got big enough at the P5 level.

With the huge amounts of money being distributed to the silverspoon conferences, it's miraculous that schools like ours can beat them in anything.
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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
(03-08-2024 05:52 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 05:43 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:57 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:44 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.

Which conference has the most WBB National Championship banners hanging in the rafters?

Speaking of that, WTH happened to the great WBB program at LTU?

TV money from football and the men's tournament got invested into WBB by the big rich schools in the region. Then we made a couple of bad hires. The Big 12 and SEC schools had blown by us on coaching salaries and support staff and facilities and we had let the name brand value slip away.

Life comes at you fast and our margin for error was never going to be big once the money got big enough at the P5 level.
President Dan Reneau played hardball on Kim Mulkey’s contract when she wanted 5 years instead of 4. She got mad and left for Baylor and it’s been downhill ever since. Also, was a group of boosters at the time that didn’t like being known as a women’s basketball school. Whole thing was a self-inflicted mess.
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RE: Optimistic about CUSA going forward...
(03-09-2024 06:24 AM)LATech95 Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 05:52 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 05:43 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:57 PM)inutech Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 03:44 PM)BlueRaiderBoy Wrote:  Crunched NCAA Net numbers on WBB and the MAC and CUSA are a bit closer in rankings. When looking at the top 6 (even though our #1 MT is sitting at 39 and the MAC's #1 Toledo is 65) MAC's avg. is 142 while CUSA is 153. But, the median for total conference shows our (9 squads) score 180. MAC's 12 squads sit at a median score of 237. Can't say that this year we are much better than MAC in WBB.

Which conference has the most WBB National Championship banners hanging in the rafters?

Speaking of that, WTH happened to the great WBB program at LTU?

TV money from football and the men's tournament got invested into WBB by the big rich schools in the region. Then we made a couple of bad hires. The Big 12 and SEC schools had blown by us on coaching salaries and support staff and facilities and we had let the name brand value slip away.

Life comes at you fast and our margin for error was never going to be big once the money got big enough at the P5 level.
President Dan Reneau played hardball on Kim Mulkey’s contract when she wanted 5 years instead of 4. She got mad and left for Baylor and it’s been downhill ever since. Also, was a group of boosters at the time that didn’t like being known as a women’s basketball school. Whole thing was a self-inflicted mess.

What a mistake, I’m sure those people regret it
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(03-08-2024 08:49 AM)theATLDawg Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 08:33 AM)smith79jordan Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 08:20 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  THis conference is a joke and WKU cannot get out fast enough. Winner is going to be a 16 seed coming off last season its all downhill from here. MAC or BUST!

Buddy...I've got news for you about MAC basketball...

Dude you are in third in this joke of. Conference. At least dominate if you are going to be an a hole
He can’t help it.
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(03-08-2024 10:47 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  IMO the MAC is not the league for WKU. FB is now dominating college sports. The SOUTH IS Football.

We need to stay in a Southern Conference!

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My sentiments too, no MAC for me. 05-nono
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(03-09-2024 10:22 AM)Franko Wrote:  
(03-08-2024 10:47 AM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  IMO the MAC is not the league for WKU. FB is now dominating college sports. The SOUTH IS Football.

We need to stay in a Southern Conference!

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My sentiments too, no MAC for me. 05-nono

WKU would be wise not to leave CUSA I feel like. MAC guarantees stability but promotes mediocrity. CUSA has for sure better MBB and Baseball. Football is getting there, don't count out Sam Houston rebounding from last season and making a splash this year the same way Jax St did this previous season. The schools in this conference definitely have aspriations including the FCS move ups. We made the move because we didn't know when the opportunity would come again, and the school has major aspirations to grow its brand and be competitive on a national level in D1 sports. As much as WKU doesn't want to be associated with FCS move ups and CUSA leadership they are surrounded by schools who have big aspirations. I don't see that same level of commitment to grow in the MAC schools. I would much rather play Jax St on a warm mid Oct weeknight than play Akron on a cold wet and dreary November weeknight game. To each their own but from an outsider view I think WKU is in the right place and will find it's way to a better conference than the MAC if they aren't trigger happy to bounce from G5 conference to G5 conference.
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I've changed my tune a bit from a couple or so years ago. Back then, when it looked like the conference was about to crumble with nine schools leaving, I was fine with WKU going to the MAC because it did offer some stability. But after a couple of years, I'm fine with them staying where they are. If they ever do switch conferences, I would rather them go back to the Belt or to the AAC if they were to offer a spot.
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I don't begrudge any school for switching conferences for 1) more revenue, 2) upgraded competition, or 3) association with like-minded and/or regional schools.

CUSA is far from the top of FBS (so says my friend Capt. Obvious) but we're also a long way from the top of the G5. Odds are, we'll lose someone at some point because 1) some conferences pay substantially more, 2) depending on the sport, some conferences offer far stronger competition, and 3) we're spread nearly from coast to coast to coast, with five teams -- Liberty/Delaware, NMSU/UTEP, and FIU -- on extreme fringes far from the rest of the conference. (Again, Capt. Obvious says hi.)

In the G5, only the AAC and MWC represent a massive upgrade in revenue. The SBC, CUSA, and MAC are all close enough that we can get in Internet arguments about which TV package is most attractive. (Even a $1M-$2M difference isn't a lot relative to other conferences.) I'm not speaking of what COULD happen in the next round of media negotiations -- only of where we stand NOW.

With that in mind, if the MWC comes after UTEP or NMSU, or the AAC comes after anyone else, it's a safe bet those teams are gone. Revenue is the biggest driver in realignment. But it should be noted that the AAC could successfully poach teams from the Sun Belt just as easily. But as with CUSA, working in the SBC's favor is that *most* of its schools don't have the intangibles historically sought after by the AAC -- notably, market size and an urban location.

Generally speaking, the MAC does not hold any major advantage in revenue or (overall) competitive strength. But it does have a strong advantage in regionality. WKU and Delaware are the only CUSA schools which fit neatly on the outskirts of that region. MTSU is close, but has far fewer rust belt alumni. But both WKU and MTSU are just as close (or closer) to schools in the heart of CUSA, so the MAC's regional advantage loses steam here. Delaware is the only one of the three who's on an island in CUSA, but the Blue Hens already chose visibility and national reach over regionality when they chose CUSA. It's probably safe to say none of these schools is leaving for the MAC anytime soon.

That brings us to the Sun Belt.

If ever there were a conference which mirrored CUSA, it's the SBC. Whereas we stretch from Delaware to Miami to New Mexico, their footprint is only a big smaller, stretching from north Virginia to southeast Georgia to south-central Texas. Both conferences emphasize football. CUSA has a stronger emphasis on basketball, but the SBC is working to close that gap. The SBC has a stronger emphasis on baseball, but CUSA is working to close that gap. With only a couple of exceptions, most SBC schools are located in smaller, college-focused towns. With only a few exceptions, most CUSA schools are located in smaller, college-focused towns.

Looking at the two conferences from a distance, we're practically twins.

The difference, ultimately, is the number of schools on isolated geographical islands. Whereas CUSA has the five teams mentioned earlier, the Sun Belt has two reasonably tight geographical divisions. Only Texas State (380 mi from LaFayette) is more than 300 miles away from its closest conference neighbor.

This perceived regional advantage is very dependent on each individual school, however. With its cluster of teams in Virginia plus Marshall and App State, the SBC would represent a geographical upgrade for Liberty and Delaware. Likewise, its cluster of teams in the ArkLaTex region would represent a geographical upgrade for La Tech and SHSU.

It's more of a break-even for JSU, KSU, MTSU, and WKU. Obviously, if multiple teams left together, it could shift the dynamic considerably, but on the face of it, none of these teams would gain much more from being *in* the SBC with their geographical neighbors vs scheduling nonconference games *against* their SBC neighbors.

As long as the Belt's membership is stable, and they don't choose to expand beyond their current 14 teams, they don't represent a threat to CUSA. And once CUSA pulls in its 12th member (assuming that's the goal) and achieves stability, we won't represent a threat to the Sun Belt. We're two complimentary conferences, and should offer each other a solid choice of opponents for our nonconference schedules, bolstering our schedule strength and giving our fans some popular games against regional and historical rivals. It's a win-win.

Obviously, the lack of openings above us -- and the scarcity of dominoes left to fall -- is reason for some optimism for the future of CUSA, but it's this potential synergistic relationship with a rival conference which gives me the most hope.

Sure, many of us hate the Belt, and many SBC fans are absolutely consumed by hate for us, but that's not a bad thing. The bottom line is, every time we face a Sun Belt team IN ANY SPORT, there's an added pressure to win. And they feel the same way. ("No one wants to lose to a team from lowly CUSA!") Ultimately, this pushes both conferences away from complacency, much the same way an active, heated rivalry tends to benefit both schools. The more we hate them, the more we feel pressured to beat them. The more they hate us, the more they feel pressured to beat us. The more pressure a school feels to win, the more resources they devote toward that end.

In the end, CUSA may or may not finish on top, but it promises to be fun to watch.
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whupemall, I like what you wrote there. Thanks. Really looking forward to 7/01/2025!
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Because of "REVENUE SCARCITY" I just don't see any G5 going above 14---for a long time--if ever. There is also the lack of "A+" type candidates among fcs that really "move the needle". CUSA will stick at TWELVE.

In fact--IMO you might even see contraction back to 12 being a possibility in the AAC or SBC's case. Depends on what espn is willing to pay--or not pay.

Future revenue scarcity is already becoming evident:

---the latest CFP money negotiation numbers (not final) DO NOT look good for ALL of G5. Many in G5 had counted on their share doubling or more--NOT SO according to the latest reports--it will increase but only by a few hundred thousand (not finalized).** See article/link below.

-- NCAA tourney credits are going to be more difficult as the P4/5 continue to limit most conferences to being ONE BID Leagues. The "Net" system is RIGGED to favor the "big boys".

-- Other factors such as increasing coaches/staff salaries, inflation, declining enrollment (at many schools), travel costs, declining game attendance, etc. are already straining most G5 AD departments.

Because of the above reasons------G5 conferences DO NOT want to split the "pie" Sixteen ways-- and some don't even want to split it fourteen ways.

** https://sports.yahoo.com/will-sec-big-te...35432.html ---- GREAT ARTICLE!!
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(03-12-2024 05:15 PM)TOPSTRAIGHT Wrote:  Because of "REVENUE SCARCITY" I just don't see any G5 going above 14---for a long time--if ever. There is also the lack of "A+" type candidates among fcs that really "move the needle". CUSA will stick at TWELVE.

In fact--IMO you might even see contraction back to 12 being a possibility in the AAC or SBC's case. Depends on what espn is willing to pay--or not pay.

Future revenue scarcity is already becoming evident:

---the latest CFP money negotiation numbers (not final) DO NOT look good for ALL of G5. Many in G5 had counted on their share doubling or more--NOT SO according to the latest reports--it will increase but only by a few hundred thousand (not finalized).** See article/link below.

-- NCAA tourney credits are going to be more difficult as the P4/5 continue to limit most conferences to being ONE BID Leagues. The "Net" system is RIGGED to favor the "big boys".

This. A million times this.

Just in the last couple days, I've read at least 5-6 articles about what the SEC and Big Ten are trying to do with the CFP and NCAA Tourney and the implications of each.

It doesn't even look good for the ACC and Big XII, let alone the G5.

I believe it was TCU's president or AD who likened the situation to the NFL giving the Dallas Cowboys an automatic playoff bid and home-field advantage merely because they have more fans.

I used to think that no matter what happened in football, no one would be foolish enough to muck with March Madness. But we all see now that basketball isn't exempt from the greed and stupidity. And that removes our strongest buffer against a possible "breakaway" by the P2.

If the P2 get their way, they'll poach the ACC and B12 of their best teams and will have no further use for them.

Depending on what's left, the ACC and B12 could either merge (which would really get them nowhere) or would each absorb the 2PAC and top teams from the MWC and AAC, and create a de facto "Div. I-AA" of major national brands who aren't quite strong or popular enough for the P2. It's also possible some of the weaker teams from the P2 would be let go. (Vandy, for example, would really be out of place at this semi-pro level -- even more than they are in the current SEC -- but would fit in exceptionally well in the new "I-AA".)

The question is, would this second tier compete directly with the P2, would it compete directly with the remaining G5, or would it stand alone?

The ACC and B12 clearly want to have P3/P4 status, but unfortunately, they don't get to make that decision. The P2 hold all the cards. I wouldn't be surprised if, after another round of poaching pulls their remaining marquee teams into the P2, the ACC and B12 are viewed as "G7" conferences.

Ultimately, our single best hope is that if this nightmare scenario does continue to unfold, the second tier will include us, and not be above us.

Regardless, for the remaining G5 conferences, revenue will dictate the size and scope of any post-poaching realignment. Would *any* G5 (or G7) conference command a $5M-$8M deal from ESPN, CBS, or FOX? Especially with their biggest market teams sucked away?
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BEST BOWL Winning % Top Ten (two from CUSA)

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Not fair putting a 10 game min.
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Biggest takeaway from that graphic...how tf has Army only played in 10 bowls?

So, invading your thread once again bc I'm doing a lot of procrastinating these days and there aren't a ton of good discussions going on around the boards. My take on WKU/MAC...I understand the logic, but the thought of the Hilltoppers moving to that fairly insular conference still seems strange to me. I know there are a lot of factors re: what I'm "used to" that are biasing that...but I have a hard time imagining longterm interest in those rivalries matching what you'll be able to build/maintain in CUSA or whatever else the future holds. Just my weightless thoughts...
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