BG missed front end of a key 1 & 1 and we get a lane violation. Can’t make these things up.

And Coit closes it out with 2 missed FTs...

Do not want to get to negative, but it just feels like NIU men’s hoops in just cursed. For the past 20 years we just cannot maintain any kind of consistency and whatever can go wrong does. I would estimate that we have lost 90% of games the past several years that are close and a 50/50 shot to win. Always a turnover, a missed bunny or crucial front end of a 1 on 1. Just f$%%ing brutal. I have no words right now but will somehow keep some faith because that is what i do. The team did scratch and claw to get back into the game today.

(01-13-2024 06:14 PM)ChicagoHuskie Wrote:  Do not want to get to negative, but it just feels like NIU men’s hoops in just cursed. For the past 20 years we just cannot maintain any kind of consistency and whatever can go wrong does. I would estimate that we have lost 90% of games the past several years that are close and a 50/50 shot to win. Always a turnover, a missed bunny or crucial front end of a 1 on 1. Just f$%%ing brutal. I have no words right now but will somehow keep some faith because that is what i do. The team did scratch and claw to get back into the game today.

Agreed. They took that punch to the face to start the 2nd, hung in and actually won the 2nd half (by a point) all while having (again...) 3 guys foul out.

They just have too many guys playing down the stretch who shouldn't be playing down the stretch.

And a guy in Gebrewhit who is shockingly bad and undisciplined.

Coit missed two FTs at the end. McPherson missed a (albeit contested) layup under 2 minutes after Amos blocked a 3 point attempt and would have...iirc..pulled the Huskies to within 6 or 7 points at the time. That's 4 points. We lost by 11. That doesn't erase the deficit but 7 points is way closer than 11 and changes things. And I'm sure I could find a dozen other missed opportunities.

Personally, I'm over moral victories but, considering the lineup, they played hard. Especially when their 2 (only) best players had off 1st halfs.

Right now, Coit and Amos have to be perfect. And that's hard to make as an expectation.

We were down the entire game. We never led and watching the first 5 mins of the game you could tell this wasn't gonna be a win.

With the injuries, we needed Lovings-Watts, Phil, and maybe someone else to step up and they haven't. Watts has played a bunch of mins and we are getting almost no offense from him and he fouls a lot. Phil is in the dog house, this was the most I've seen him play in a while and he didn't score much. Our two available bigs we got 0 points from and one of them (Durosinmi) fouled out after 5 mins of total play.

We can't rely on Coit to score 30 points every game while other players, outside of Amos, don't produce.

We also got outrebounded 42-29.

(01-13-2024 06:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We were down the entire game. We never led and watching the first 5 mins of the game you could tell this wasn't gonna be a win.

With the injuries, we needed Lovings-Watts, Phil, and maybe someone else to step up and they haven't. Watts has played a bunch of mins and we are getting almost no offense from him and he fouls a lot. Phil is in the dog house, this was the most I've seen him play in a while and he didn't score much. Our two available bigs we got 0 points from and one of them (Durosinmi) fouled out after 5 mins of total play.

We can't rely on Coit to score 30 points every game while other players, outside of Amos, don't produce.

We also got outrebounded 42-29.

In the past two games, Duro has played 12 minutes and committed 10 fouls.

Honestly...its kind of impressive.

Coach Burno is not very good as a leader or coach it seems maybe that will change. The talent on the team seams to be more in all of our heads than actually what it is! Coit can score but he gives up almost probably if you include turnovers as much as he scores. We’re the worst team in the MAC which is true and stinks but Tuesday is a new day!

I spent most of the time at the football toss game on the north end of the convo. I was pretending to be Phil Horvath.

(01-13-2024 06:46 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 06:42 PM)epasnoopy Wrote:  We were down the entire game. We never led and watching the first 5 mins of the game you could tell this wasn't gonna be a win.

With the injuries, we needed Lovings-Watts, Phil, and maybe someone else to step up and they haven't. Watts has played a bunch of mins and we are getting almost no offense from him and he fouls a lot. Phil is in the dog house, this was the most I've seen him play in a while and he didn't score much. Our two available bigs we got 0 points from and one of them (Durosinmi) fouled out after 5 mins of total play.

We can't rely on Coit to score 30 points every game while other players, outside of Amos, don't produce.

We also got outrebounded 42-29.

In the past two games, Duro has played 12 minutes and committed 10 fouls.

Honestly...its kind of impressive.

It was impressive he fouled out in 7 minutes at WMU with no points and 1 rebound.
He out did himself against BGSU by fouling out in 5 minutes, no points no rebounds!

Impressive coaching career of BGSU Todd Simon. This is his first year and starts off 12-4 (BGSU 11-20 last season).
43 years old, prior to BGSU 7 years as head coach of Southern Utah going 65 - 28 in his last 3 years! He spent many years as head coach as a high school coach with an impressive 35-1 record his last season!

One bright spot at the game was the presence of former Huskies Shawn Thrower, Dennis Douglas, Brad Waller, and Kenny Battle. And Rodney Davis doing color on the radio broadcast. All Coach John McDougal guys

(01-13-2024 01:12 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 12:11 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 03:45 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 08:47 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  Has Burno EVER had success as a head coach anywhere? Bueller? Just asking, as assistant coach flunky should translate to success as head coach, right?

Moronic thinking considering how many successful coaches started their careers as assistant coaches during which time they learn a system, how to teach it and coach it, how to recruit, how to manage myriad of duties off the court, etc. Being an assistant "flunky" as you describe it, is no guarantee of success but head coaches are not born as head coaches.

Moronic idiotic thinking considering probably all college head coaches started as assistant coaches believing an assistant coach will therefore be a successful head coach. Civility went out the window with your very first word. So how do you think Burno is doing!
"head coaches are not born as head coaches." Idiotic statement. Successful head coaches have inate qualities that can't be taught. 23 pages of fire Frazier is a clue.

You undermine your original post by admitting "all college head coaches started as assistant coaches."
Never said anything to imply defending Burno, simply pointed out your illogical thinking that Burno's lack of prior head coaching guaranteed failure.
Saying that head coaches are not born as such is not idiotic, but a fact. If having "inate (cq) qualities" was a major rationale to becoming a successful head coach then why bother noting someone's resume with prior schools worked at and head coaches someone worked for. Amazing that you believe serving as an assistant under head coaches who utilize certain offensive or defensive schemes has no value.
For the record, I'm not happy with the state of our basketball programs (men or women) but I'm curious as to whether you would believe hiring someone with prior head coaching success at the Division II, III, juco, or high school level would be preferable.

You are extremely dishonest. I NEVER said, suggested, intimated, implied or even hinted "lack of prior head coaching guaranteed failure." NOR did EVER say, suggest, intimate, imply or hint "serving as an assistant ... has no value". For simple clarification for the mentally challenged here is EXACTLY what I said: 'Has Burno EVER had success as a head coach anywhere? Bueller? Just asking, as assistant coach flunky should translate to success as head coach, right?'. THAT IS ALL, FOLKS. For further clarification for the mentally challenged, the first part was a simple yes or no question. It doesn't require parsing, reading into it, or analysis. The 2nd part is basic truth that NO ONE would disagree with - being an assistant coach doesn't not indicate success as a head coach. Now HTF you came up with your quotes above from my 2 sentences is baffling, astounding, mind boggling.

(01-14-2024 07:46 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 01:12 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-13-2024 12:11 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 03:45 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(01-11-2024 08:47 AM)El Duderino Wrote:  Has Burno EVER had success as a head coach anywhere? Bueller? Just asking, as assistant coach flunky should translate to success as head coach, right?

Moronic thinking considering how many successful coaches started their careers as assistant coaches during which time they learn a system, how to teach it and coach it, how to recruit, how to manage myriad of duties off the court, etc. Being an assistant "flunky" as you describe it, is no guarantee of success but head coaches are not born as head coaches.

Moronic idiotic thinking considering probably all college head coaches started as assistant coaches believing an assistant coach will therefore be a successful head coach. Civility went out the window with your very first word. So how do you think Burno is doing!
"head coaches are not born as head coaches." Idiotic statement. Successful head coaches have inate qualities that can't be taught. 23 pages of fire Frazier is a clue.

You undermine your original post by admitting "all college head coaches started as assistant coaches."
Never said anything to imply defending Burno, simply pointed out your illogical thinking that Burno's lack of prior head coaching guaranteed failure.
Saying that head coaches are not born as such is not idiotic, but a fact. If having "inate (cq) qualities" was a major rationale to becoming a successful head coach then why bother noting someone's resume with prior schools worked at and head coaches someone worked for. Amazing that you believe serving as an assistant under head coaches who utilize certain offensive or defensive schemes has no value.
For the record, I'm not happy with the state of our basketball programs (men or women) but I'm curious as to whether you would believe hiring someone with prior head coaching success at the Division II, III, juco, or high school level would be preferable.

You are extremely dishonest. I NEVER said, suggested, intimated, implied or even hinted "lack of prior head coaching guaranteed failure." NOR did EVER say, suggest, intimate, imply or hint "serving as an assistant ... has no value". For simple clarification for the mentally challenged here is EXACTLY what I said: 'Has Burno EVER had success as a head coach anywhere? Bueller? Just asking, as assistant coach flunky should translate to success as head coach, right?'. THAT IS ALL, FOLKS. For further clarification for the mentally challenged, the first part was a simple yes or no question. It doesn't require parsing, reading into it, or analysis. The 2nd part is basic truth that NO ONE would disagree with - being an assistant coach doesn't not indicate success as a head coach. Now HTF you came up with your quotes above from my 2 sentences is baffling, astounding, mind boggling.

Can y'all chill? It's just Huskie basketball. No one cares about that. Not even the program itself.

(01-14-2024 06:47 PM)MPython Wrote:  One bright spot at the game was the presence of former Huskies Shawn Thrower, Dennis Douglas, Brad Waller, and Kenny Battle. And Rodney Davis doing color on the radio broadcast. All Coach John McDougal guys

I couldn't go cuz of a family commitment, but if I knew those guys were going to be there, man. I would have gone!

(01-14-2024 07:46 PM)El Duderino Wrote:  ..... the first part was a simple yes or no question. It doesn't require parsing, reading into it, or analysis.
...... being an assistant coach doesn't not indicate success as a head coach.

There is no value in discussing anything with someone as closeminded and believing they are superior as you.
1) -- What is intended when the simple yes / no answer to a question is no? The idea is clearly that no prior head coaching success is a detriment.
2) -- Most children learn not to use a double negative "being an assistant doesn't not indicate....)