Imagine if JMU misses out on a bowl because the SBC as a whole went crazy in OOC play and got 10-11 eligible teams

It’s wild.

(11-20-2023 12:55 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Imagine if JMU misses out on a bowl because the SBC as a whole went crazy in OOC play and got 10-11 eligible teams

It’s wild.

That wouldn't be a bad thing for any of us. (Well, except JMU) The Sun Belt would get tons of press (and $)

They changed the rule a few years ago to where a 5-7 team could go to a bowl if there weren't enough eligible teams. Those teams were chosen in order by graduation rate or something IIRC. Would those teams go before JMU since in theory the Dukes aren't eligible and the other 5-7 teams are by current rule in that situation?

(11-20-2023 12:59 PM)monarx Wrote:  They changed the rule a few years ago to where a 5-7 team could go to a bowl if there weren't enough eligible teams. Those teams were chosen in order by graduation rate or something IIRC. Would those teams go before JMU since in theory the Dukes aren't eligible and the other 5-7 teams are by current rule in that situation?

JMU and Jacksonville State have precedence over the 5-7 teams. If 82 teams can't reach 6-6, they will be picked first. Then the 5-7 teams by APR

(11-20-2023 01:02 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(11-20-2023 12:59 PM)monarx Wrote:  They changed the rule a few years ago to where a 5-7 team could go to a bowl if there weren't enough eligible teams. Those teams were chosen in order by graduation rate or something IIRC. Would those teams go before JMU since in theory the Dukes aren't eligible and the other 5-7 teams are by current rule in that situation?

JMU and Jacksonville State have precedence over the 5-7 teams. If 82 teams can't reach 6-6, they will be picked first. Then the 5-7 teams by APR

Thanks. Thats fair. As much as it would hurt the SBC this year, Id be OK with teams needing to have 7 wins to go to a bowl. .500 seems like a low bar (though Im hoping like heck for the Monarchs to hit that this year). I suspect JMU will makes its way in this year somehow.

(11-19-2023 11:47 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 11:42 AM)HighlandsApp Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 11:22 AM)rileylives Wrote:  By my count there are 66 total bowl eligible teams with 82 slots. 16 eligible slots remain.

For JMU, New Mexico State and Jacksonville State to nab a birth, these remaining 5-6 teams must lose.

Virginia Tech
Syracuse
Navy
USF
Rice
TCU
BYU
UCF
Illinois
Minnesota
Nebraska
Army
NIU
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Utah State
Colorado State
Cal
Washington State
Florida
South Carolina
Mississippi State
ODU
Marshall
Louisiana

New Mexico State is already bowl eligible at 9-3. Jerry Kill is one of the best coaches in the country and he sure has Freeze number embarrassed him last year in a bowl game and straight up sent him to the woodshed where he belongs yesterday.

Are they not one of the transition teams?

They are a former Sun Belt member.

(11-19-2023 01:58 PM)balanced_view Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 10:17 AM)rokamortis Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 09:42 AM)PetroCajun Wrote:  

(11-19-2023 09:24 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  The extra practice time is valuable. Especially as a 6-6 team.

I get that, but our university administration doesn't have nearly as high of standards for football as ya'll (App State). They would see going to a bowl, even at 6-6, as great success for Cajuns football.

I’m surprised by this. They heavily invested in Napier and crew with a clear goal of conference championships, why wouldn’t they continue that investment?

Dont take what your reading to heart, we have some fans that are not happy and the Admin is a easy target. To post that they dont care about winning is on brand for some right now. just let it be.

In my mind if UL admin didn't care it would seem strange to spend so much on stadium renovations but I'm not a UL fan nor really know the innerworkings of how the Cajuns do things.

(11-18-2023 09:49 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If ODU and Marshall win next week, and JMU is allowed, the entire East division has a chance to go bowling

Vegas says its will happen when considering the three in isolation.
- ODU is -2 at home against GaSt (Edit - Thanks mturn for the correction! - you better bookmark that), who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention.
- Marshall is -2 at home against Ark St, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention. With that said, Marshall has 1 win since September, and only 1 win against a team currently eligible, and Ark St was just up 77-24 on Tx St (prior to what I assume was a TxSt TD against backups), so I question the -2.
- Vegas says that 13 of the 24 teams needing a win for bowl eligibility are dogs. JMU needs 10 to lose. 7 of those 24 are double digit dogs and 4 more are getting >=6.5 points.

Anyone interested in the full view of JMU's chances of a bowl game via not enough deserving teams (not our waiver/legal thread) should check out
https://csnbbs.com/thread-981521.html

(11-20-2023 04:01 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:49 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If ODU and Marshall win next week, and JMU is allowed, the entire East division has a chance to go bowling

Vegas says its will happen when considering the three in isolation.
- ODU is -2 at home against GaSo, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention.
- Marshall is -2 at home against Ark St, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention. With that said, Marshall has 1 win since September, and only 1 win against a team currently eligible, and Ark St was just up 77-24 on Tx St (prior to what I assume was a TxSt TD against backups), so I question the -2.
- Vegas says that 13 of the 24 teams needing a win for bowl eligibility are dogs. JMU needs 10 to lose. 7 are double digit dogs and 4 more that are getting >=6.5 points.

Anyone interested in the full view of JMU's chances of a bowl game via not enough deserving teams (there is no talk of the waiver/legal side) should check out
https://csnbbs.com/thread-981521.html

We played backups and the redshirt crew for basically the entire 4th quarter against Texas State. It was just hard to tell because we somehow outscored the Bobcats 21-14 in a stretch in there without running a single offensive play for 17 minutes of game clock.

(11-20-2023 04:04 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-20-2023 04:01 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:49 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If ODU and Marshall win next week, and JMU is allowed, the entire East division has a chance to go bowling

Vegas says its will happen when considering the three in isolation.
- ODU is -2 at home against GaSo, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention.
- Marshall is -2 at home against Ark St, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention. With that said, Marshall has 1 win since September, and only 1 win against a team currently eligible, and Ark St was just up 77-24 on Tx St (prior to what I assume was a TxSt TD against backups), so I question the -2.
- Vegas says that 13 of the 24 teams needing a win for bowl eligibility are dogs. JMU needs 10 to lose. 7 are double digit dogs and 4 more that are getting >=6.5 points.

Anyone interested in the full view of JMU's chances of a bowl game via not enough deserving teams (there is no talk of the waiver/legal side) should check out
https://csnbbs.com/thread-981521.html

We played backups and the redshirt crew for basically the entire 4th quarter against Texas State. It was just hard to tell because we somehow outscored the Bobcats 21-14 in a stretch in there without running a single offensive play for 17 minutes of game clock.

It was 28-14 without running a single offensive play. There were the two pick-6's, the scoop & score, and the KO return for a TD.

(11-20-2023 04:01 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:49 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If ODU and Marshall win next week, and JMU is allowed, the entire East division has a chance to go bowling

Vegas says its will happen when considering the three in isolation.
- ODU is -2 at home against GaSo, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention.
- Marshall is -2 at home against Ark St, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention. With that said, Marshall has 1 win since September, and only 1 win against a team currently eligible, and Ark St was just up 77-24 on Tx St (prior to what I assume was a TxSt TD against backups), so I question the -2.
- Vegas says that 13 of the 24 teams needing a win for bowl eligibility are dogs. JMU needs 10 to lose. 7 of those 24 are double digit dogs and 4 more are getting >=6.5 points.

Anyone interested in the full view of JMU's chances of a bowl game via not enough deserving teams (there is no talk of the waiver/legal side) should check out
https://csnbbs.com/thread-981521.html

State not Southern!

(11-20-2023 04:11 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(11-20-2023 04:01 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:49 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If ODU and Marshall win next week, and JMU is allowed, the entire East division has a chance to go bowling

Vegas says its will happen when considering the three in isolation.
- ODU is -2 at home against GaSo, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention.
- Marshall is -2 at home against Ark St, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention. With that said, Marshall has 1 win since September, and only 1 win against a team currently eligible, and Ark St was just up 77-24 on Tx St (prior to what I assume was a TxSt TD against backups), so I question the -2.
- Vegas says that 13 of the 24 teams needing a win for bowl eligibility are dogs. JMU needs 10 to lose. 7 of those 24 are double digit dogs and 4 more are getting >=6.5 points.

Anyone interested in the full view of JMU's chances of a bowl game via not enough deserving teams (there is no talk of the waiver/legal side) should check out
https://csnbbs.com/thread-981521.html

State not Southern!

Just a typo. Simple slip of multiple fingers and hands.

Was pointed out on the AState board that Army has 2 FCS Wins this year. So even with a win over Navy, the best they can do is go into the same pool as JMU and Jacksonville State for otherwise ineligible teams that can fill bowl spots.

(11-20-2023 04:21 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-20-2023 04:11 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(11-20-2023 04:01 PM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  

(11-18-2023 09:49 PM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  If ODU and Marshall win next week, and JMU is allowed, the entire East division has a chance to go bowling

Vegas says its will happen when considering the three in isolation.
- ODU is -2 at home against GaSo, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention.
- Marshall is -2 at home against Ark St, who is already bowl eligible but out of CCG contention. With that said, Marshall has 1 win since September, and only 1 win against a team currently eligible, and Ark St was just up 77-24 on Tx St (prior to what I assume was a TxSt TD against backups), so I question the -2.
- Vegas says that 13 of the 24 teams needing a win for bowl eligibility are dogs. JMU needs 10 to lose. 7 of those 24 are double digit dogs and 4 more are getting >=6.5 points.

Anyone interested in the full view of JMU's chances of a bowl game via not enough deserving teams (there is no talk of the waiver/legal side) should check out
https://csnbbs.com/thread-981521.html

State not Southern!

Just a typo. Simple slip of multiple fingers and hands.

Perfectly understandable, I have a third leg and the damn thing is always getting in the way.

Quote:The Sun Belt could have 12 of its 14 teams, including James Madison, in a bowl. Trying to place 12 Sun Belt teams in the available bowls isn’t easy, and that's why one source told me they wouldn’t shocked if a pair of Sun Belt teams may have to face other each in a bowl game.

(11-20-2023 06:26 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

Quote:The Sun Belt could have 12 of its 14 teams, including James Madison, in a bowl. Trying to place 12 Sun Belt teams in the available bowls isn’t easy, and that's why one source told me they wouldn’t shocked if a pair of Sun Belt teams may have to face other each in a bowl game.

So do we count it as a win or loss in our bowl record?

This is also why the SBC needs to try and improve bowl standings a lot. We need wider access with some high profile matchups like the AAC or MWC or MAC against at least 1 P5 school.

(11-20-2023 06:58 PM)Troy_Fan_15 Wrote:  

(11-20-2023 06:26 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

Quote:The Sun Belt could have 12 of its 14 teams, including James Madison, in a bowl. Trying to place 12 Sun Belt teams in the available bowls isn’t easy, and that's why one source told me they wouldn’t shocked if a pair of Sun Belt teams may have to face other each in a bowl game.

So do we count it as a win or loss in our bowl record?

Yes.

So if I sacrifice MU not making a bowl, can we start talking about JMU basketball and let the impossible dream die?

(11-21-2023 01:41 AM)Herdfan1 Wrote:  So if I sacrifice MU not making a bowl, can we start talking about JMU basketball and let the impossible dream die?

I'm okay with this.