(11-14-2023 10:26 PM)HuskieBowWow Wrote:  If we build up a nice lead against Kent it would be nice to see Hampton get some playing time. I really want to see what he can do.

We have seen enough of Hampton last year and this year to know what he is. Hopefully, Hammock has seen it also and finds a good alternative.

(11-15-2023 09:41 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-14-2023 10:26 PM)HuskieBowWow Wrote:  If we build up a nice lead against Kent it would be nice to see Hampton get some playing time. I really want to see what he can do.

We have seen enough of Hampton last year and this year to know what he is. Hopefully, Hammock has seen it also and finds a good alternative.

There is a 0% chance Hammock goes into next year with any of the QBs on the roster as the de facto starter for 2024.

I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

None of the ESPN Sportscenter top 10 plays involved any of the MAC football games last night. The #1 play was a soccer goal by a community college.

The punt return for TD by Pardridge?

The 50+ yd TD that won Toledo the game last night with less than 2 mins left?

(11-15-2023 09:47 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 09:41 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  

(11-14-2023 10:26 PM)HuskieBowWow Wrote:  If we build up a nice lead against Kent it would be nice to see Hampton get some playing time. I really want to see what he can do.

We have seen enough of Hampton last year and this year to know what he is. Hopefully, Hammock has seen it also and finds a good alternative.

There is a 0% chance Hammock goes into next year with any of the QBs on the roster as the de facto starter for 2024.

Correct

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

Yup, the fumbles are a Rocky thing, but his looseness with the arm puts him in bad spots. His arm is sufficient. His trigger stinks.

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

True a nice ball, but where and when to throw is what QBing is all about. He pre-determines his throws, he doesn't play QB. He is not processing the info quickly enough. Rocky does it as well but not as bad as Hampton. Watch the QB School on You Tube, JT O'Connell (10 year NFL vet QB) gives a graduate school course in QBing.

(11-15-2023 01:32 PM)epicbret Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

Yup, the fumbles are a Rocky thing, but his looseness with the arm puts him in bad spots. His arm is sufficient. His trigger stinks.

In terms of game experience though, he's more like a freshman or sophomore. He might still be able to figure out when to pull the trigger with a bit more experience. But I think we need someone that is capable of running the ball too and Hampton is not it.

(11-15-2023 01:53 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 01:32 PM)epicbret Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

Yup, the fumbles are a Rocky thing, but his looseness with the arm puts him in bad spots. His arm is sufficient. His trigger stinks.

In terms of game experience though, he's more like a freshman or sophomore. He might still be able to figure out when to pull the trigger with a bit more experience. But I think we need someone that is capable of running the ball too and Hampton is not it.

I really hope whatever transfer they get is more of a threat running than Rocky or Hampton is. I am more than fine being a run heavy offense, but pair the philosophy with a more mobile QB and open up yourself to a more creative running game than turning around and handing it to the back 65% of plays.

(11-15-2023 01:53 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 01:32 PM)epicbret Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

Yup, the fumbles are a Rocky thing, but his looseness with the arm puts him in bad spots. His arm is sufficient. His trigger stinks.

In terms of game experience though, he's more like a freshman or sophomore. He might still be able to figure out when to pull the trigger with a bit more experience. But I think we need someone that is capable of running the ball too and Hampton is not it.

Agree on both.

Again, would love to see Hampton figure it out, but current state, he's not great.

Had a great time at the game on Tuesday night. I know it is a tough subject on this board but the Maction games I really enjoy. Had a tailgate of 20+ starting at 2 PM and the weather was perfect. When the schedule comes out for next year I encourage all of you to carve out the time to make at east one of the Maction games, I do not think you will regret it. The team needs more support for these games, but as always the fans who do show up (I applaud you) bring terrific enthusiasm.

I went to the game but only because I am a die hard. I couldn't convince anyone else because they had work or family obligations. I don't blame them either when we all work the next day. You have to leave early enough or be stuck in traffic. I met two younger WMU fans (probably in their mid-to-late 20s) who drove from south side of Chicago and they didn't make it until 15 mins after the game started. They enjoyed having beer at the stadium and mentioned the state of Michigan had banned the sale of beer in college stadiums until very recently.

The other downside of all these weeknight games we have played is the best coverage ESPN has given us is ESPNU. We've had zero MACtion games on ESPN or ESPN2 which get anywhere from 3-6x more viewers.

(11-15-2023 02:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 01:53 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 01:32 PM)epicbret Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 10:25 AM)epicbret Wrote:  I want Hampton to succeed. Very local kid, but he's been all the same turnovers as Rocky minus the occasional success.

Need to land a transfer and a recruit.

Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

Yup, the fumbles are a Rocky thing, but his looseness with the arm puts him in bad spots. His arm is sufficient. His trigger stinks.

In terms of game experience though, he's more like a freshman or sophomore. He might still be able to figure out when to pull the trigger with a bit more experience. But I think we need someone that is capable of running the ball too and Hampton is not it.

I really hope whatever transfer they get is more of a threat running than Rocky or Hampton is. I am more than fine being a run heavy offense, but pair the philosophy with a more mobile QB and open up yourself to a more creative running game than turning around and handing it to the back 65% of plays.

I agree with the dual threat QB. Most defenses in the MAC (and most college defenses) can't handle a QB who can do both even at an average level. Rocky makes some amazing runs once in a while, but he also makes some bad decisions on which lane to run.

(11-16-2023 09:54 AM)NIU17 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 02:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 01:53 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 01:32 PM)epicbret Wrote:  

(11-15-2023 11:31 AM)BigChilla Wrote:  Not as many fumbles. But I agree he is prone to turnovers through the air.

I personally think he throws a nice ball - if he was just more careful with the football he could even have been the starter this season after Rocky hurt his thumb and rushed back.

But he’s a little too loose with it, so he’s going to have to accept the competition or transfer

Yup, the fumbles are a Rocky thing, but his looseness with the arm puts him in bad spots. His arm is sufficient. His trigger stinks.

In terms of game experience though, he's more like a freshman or sophomore. He might still be able to figure out when to pull the trigger with a bit more experience. But I think we need someone that is capable of running the ball too and Hampton is not it.

I really hope whatever transfer they get is more of a threat running than Rocky or Hampton is. I am more than fine being a run heavy offense, but pair the philosophy with a more mobile QB and open up yourself to a more creative running game than turning around and handing it to the back 65% of plays.

I agree with the dual threat QB. Most defenses in the MAC (and most college defenses) can't handle a QB who can do both even at an average level. Rocky makes some amazing runs once in a while, but he also makes some bad decisions on which lane to run.

This is definitely my view. Look how good the near run exclusive wildcat has worked with Lynch, Brown and Rudolph this year. If that’s built in as an option on any down with a strong runner who is also a capable passer at QB, our offense will be really hard to stop, certainly in MAC play.

Our zone blocking works so well for it. Great for the 3rd & 8 type plays we have struggled on too, often space opens up to tuck and run for the easy first at this level.

Getting the right QB is so crucial. Hammock generally hasn’t seemed as big on running QBs, hopefully he agrees now and can get the right guy.

BG at WMU on ESPN u. Western coach must be so disappointed - attendance in Waldo looks like Huskie Stadium last week. Judging by the score, they didn’t bring any juice this week either.

(11-21-2023 08:22 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  BG at WMU on ESPN u. Western coach must be so disappointed - attendance in Waldo looks like Huskie Stadium last week. Judging by the score, they didn’t bring any juice this week either.

He needs fans to get his guys going I guess. What a tool. He really lost his team last few weeks.