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(12-12-2023 02:47 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(12-12-2023 02:11 PM)gdunn Wrote:  USM has hired Chip Long at OC and Clay Bignell at DC.

Long played with Hall at UNA and overlapped with Hall at Tulane... Bignell coached with Long at ND...

So next season we should be HC hunting.

I like the Bignell hire. He’s working his way up the ladder, has been around a lot of good defenses, and has had success as a DC on the FBS level.

Long has a stellar resume’, but going from OC at Notre Dame to quality control specialist at Louisville in 4 years raises a lot of alarms.

Well, congrats on your impending hire of a new AD, HC and staff plus rebuild... Reminds me of that actor in 90s, once a series hired that guy you knew it was over...

But hey who knows, USM just might be what he needs. But as a Fritz fan and a long time GT fan, I feel your pain
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Bob Chesney is officially on campus and ready to roll. Fantastic welcome press conference yesterday to introduce him. I was very impressed by him. Now just looking forward to see an announcement for the staff. Sounds like a good mix of existing from Holy Cross and other FBS assistants coming in. No way to tell how on the field will go, but off the field he is a breath of fresh air so far. Already has a fan/donor meet & greet on the books for later this week.




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(12-12-2023 02:12 PM)Trojanbybirth Wrote:  ^^ It's true you can hire disaster (Uncle Fester). In Troy's history, thankfully, it has been rare. Troy has had 25 coaches and only 8 of them had a losing winning percentage. Two tenures were labeled as no coach and one had a winning percentage and the other had a losing. XHCJS would talk about the culture of Troy football and that it is important to have an institution that wants to win. I think we have that at Troy. I think all Sunbelt schools have it.
Without a doubt, Jon Sumrall is a fantastic coach and I expect great things from him in the future. That being said however, Tulane may not have all the ingredients to win a Natty like he prophesied in is first presser.
Between Troy and Tulane, I think Troy has the better chance at being a consistent winner.

25 HCs? Since 1909? That’s 114 years of FB at Troy, or an average of about 4.5 years per coach.

I don’t know whether that’s good, bad or just normal. It would be interesting to run the numbers on all the existing SBC members to see what the statistical mean is.
12-13-2023 02:51 PM
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(12-13-2023 02:51 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-12-2023 02:12 PM)Trojanbybirth Wrote:  ^^ It's true you can hire disaster (Uncle Fester). In Troy's history, thankfully, it has been rare. Troy has had 25 coaches and only 8 of them had a losing winning percentage. Two tenures were labeled as no coach and one had a winning percentage and the other had a losing. XHCJS would talk about the culture of Troy football and that it is important to have an institution that wants to win. I think we have that at Troy. I think all Sunbelt schools have it.
Without a doubt, Jon Sumrall is a fantastic coach and I expect great things from him in the future. That being said however, Tulane may not have all the ingredients to win a Natty like he prophesied in is first presser.
Between Troy and Tulane, I think Troy has the better chance at being a consistent winner.

25 HCs? Since 1909? That’s 114 years of FB at Troy, or an average of about 4.5 years per coach.

I don’t know whether that’s good, bad or just normal. It would be interesting to run the numbers on all the existing SBC members to see what the statistical mean is.

Probably normal. For us we're on our 4th coach in 9 years in the Belt. Which is a high turnover IMO consider we've had 12 coaches since 51 years and 4 within the last 9. We'll have our 13th coach in 2025..
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(12-13-2023 02:51 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-12-2023 02:12 PM)Trojanbybirth Wrote:  ^^ It's true you can hire disaster (Uncle Fester). In Troy's history, thankfully, it has been rare. Troy has had 25 coaches and only 8 of them had a losing winning percentage. Two tenures were labeled as no coach and one had a winning percentage and the other had a losing. XHCJS would talk about the culture of Troy football and that it is important to have an institution that wants to win. I think we have that at Troy. I think all Sunbelt schools have it.
Without a doubt, Jon Sumrall is a fantastic coach and I expect great things from him in the future. That being said however, Tulane may not have all the ingredients to win a Natty like he prophesied in is first presser.
Between Troy and Tulane, I think Troy has the better chance at being a consistent winner.

25 HCs? Since 1909? That’s 114 years of FB at Troy, or an average of about 4.5 years per coach.

I don’t know whether that’s good, bad or just normal. It would be interesting to run the numbers on all the existing SBC members to see what the statistical mean is.

Well South is pretty easy to figure out. Joey Jones was 2009-2017 and Steve Campbell was 2018-2020. Kane Wommack has been coach 2021-present but since he’s still here we don’t know his end date yet. So Joey’s 9 years plus Campbell’s 3 years is a 6 year average.
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Texas State's RB coach was let go, or left, (still don't know which) about 2 weeks ago. Rumors flying they are trying to bring Barrick Nealy on board as the new RB coach.
Georgia Southern folks might remember that name.
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(12-13-2023 02:51 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  
(12-12-2023 02:12 PM)Trojanbybirth Wrote:  ^^ It's true you can hire disaster (Uncle Fester). In Troy's history, thankfully, it has been rare. Troy has had 25 coaches and only 8 of them had a losing winning percentage. Two tenures were labeled as no coach and one had a winning percentage and the other had a losing. XHCJS would talk about the culture of Troy football and that it is important to have an institution that wants to win. I think we have that at Troy. I think all Sunbelt schools have it.
Without a doubt, Jon Sumrall is a fantastic coach and I expect great things from him in the future. That being said however, Tulane may not have all the ingredients to win a Natty like he prophesied in is first presser.
Between Troy and Tulane, I think Troy has the better chance at being a consistent winner.

25 HCs? Since 1909? That’s 114 years of FB at Troy, or an average of about 4.5 years per coach.

I don’t know whether that’s good, bad or just normal. It would be interesting to run the numbers on all the existing SBC members to see what the statistical mean is.

22 coaches since 1928. 93 seasons (1943/44 went unplayed) means on average a new coach every 4.23 years. Before 1943, there were 7 coaches, for an average of 2 years. If we only count post-WW2, it’s an average of 4.875. If we only count D1, it’s an average of 6.5 years. Not counting Drinkwitz or Brown (single year in/out and the only ones in our D1 history to do so), it’s 8.33 years.

4 coaches had losing records when they left. 3 were during our inaugural and NAIA years (Eggers 1928, Hoover 1945, Broome 1956-58) and 1 during our early FCS years (Mike Working 1980-82).
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Rumor is that Troy has a new HC. Troyfans has changed back to cardinal from black. There hasn't been much chatter on who it is though. Word is it will be announced tomorrow.
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App lost their TE coach to Duke.
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(12-29-2023 11:54 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  App lost their TE coach to Duke.
So, that's 3 SBC coaches to Duke? What a crock.
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After a disappointing season, Kane Wommack parts ways with 4 assistant coaches: OL, TE, WR, and RB.

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Dang ^ that's a shake-up....USA fans - am curious from your perspective, are these the right moves?
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(12-29-2023 02:53 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Dang ^ that's a shake-up....USA fans - am curious from your perspective, are these the right moves?

Some are a little surprised at the WR and RB coaches getting let go. Maybe LB coach. But not at all at the OL coach. We were too inconsistent. We whipped a 10-win Big 12 championship participant on the road and then lost at home to Central Michigan. Inconsistency is on the coaches and I’m hoping we see more consistency next year. There’s no reason why South shouldn’t be in contention for division titles every year and Coach Wommack has a plan to get us there. After seeing the previous coach flounder, unable to make any changes, it’s slightly refreshing to see. I don’t wish lost jobs on anyone, but Coach Wommack doesn’t want to settle for mediocrity.
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(12-29-2023 02:53 PM)bcp_jmu Wrote:  Dang ^ that's a shake-up....USA fans - am curious from your perspective, are these the right moves?

We sure as #&!! hope so. This really isn't a shock to some, but CKW is serious about building a strong program.
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(12-29-2023 12:53 PM)CatMom Wrote:  
(12-29-2023 11:54 AM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  App lost their TE coach to Duke.
So, that's 3 SBC coaches to Duke? What a crock.

JMU took 2 from Duke. Does that balance us out at all? haha
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