As a track athlete myself, I kind of like stadiums that have the track around the field. It's unique & shows support for the non-revenue sports. Can't please everyone I guess & football's the popular sport.

Our track is basically right across from our stadium & seems like it takes up a lot of unnecessary space - the center is an empty field.

(11-08-2023 04:12 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  As a track athlete myself, I kind of like stadiums that have the track around the field. It's unique & shows support for the non-revenue sports. Can't please everyone I guess & football's the popular sport.

Our track is basically right across from our stadium & seems like it takes up a lot of unnecessary space - the center is an empty field.

Our new track will be east of the stadium in a space not currently used by anything. At least that's my understanding.

(11-08-2023 09:36 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
No one has suggested what these added seats will cost, and does Eastern have the resources? Also, not that is an impossible engineering feat, but the entrances to the visiting team have to be considered.

What would it cost? The cost of doing business if you want to be big time.

(11-08-2023 04:12 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  As a track athlete myself, I kind of like stadiums that have the track around the field. It's unique & shows support for the non-revenue sports. Can't please everyone I guess & football's the popular sport.

Our track is basically right across from our stadium & seems like it takes up a lot of unnecessary space - the center is an empty field.

Your point is well taken Bronco.

That said, if I had a dollar for every visiting or viewing fan that commented about the "high school" look of our field, I would be pretty well off. I think the ONLY other MAC school with a track surrounding the football field is Buffalo. The LA coliseum got rid of theirs many years ago, I guess tracks around the gridiron have gone the way of Nehru jackets and leisure suits. Totally out of fashion.

(11-08-2023 06:16 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 09:36 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
No one has suggested what these added seats will cost, and does Eastern have the resources? Also, not that is an impossible engineering feat, but the entrances to the visiting team have to be considered.

What would it cost? The cost of doing business if you want to be big time.

Maybe they could put up hedges or something. Saw that in the SEC.

(11-08-2023 07:33 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 06:16 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 09:36 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
No one has suggested what these added seats will cost, and does Eastern have the resources? Also, not that is an impossible engineering feat, but the entrances to the visiting team have to be considered.

What would it cost? The cost of doing business if you want to be big time.

Maybe they could put up hedges or something. Saw that in the SEC.

Between the hedges--the factory version of Sanford Stadium. Seriously, gotta do something, that is a vast area and why not reward the fans by putting them close to the action?

(11-08-2023 07:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 07:33 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 06:16 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 09:36 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
No one has suggested what these added seats will cost, and does Eastern have the resources? Also, not that is an impossible engineering feat, but the entrances to the visiting team have to be considered.

What would it cost? The cost of doing business if you want to be big time.

Maybe they could put up hedges or something. Saw that in the SEC.

Between the hedges--the factory version of Sanford Stadium. Seriously, gotta do something, that is a vast area and why not reward the fans by putting them close to the action?

????

The field isn't moving. If someone is 15 rows up next week they would still be 15 rows up.after the track is removed.

We can add a few hundred field level seats but that doesn't affect the existing seats.

(11-08-2023 09:18 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 07:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 07:33 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 06:16 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 09:36 AM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
No one has suggested what these added seats will cost, and does Eastern have the resources? Also, not that is an impossible engineering feat, but the entrances to the visiting team have to be considered.

What would it cost? The cost of doing business if you want to be big time.

Maybe they could put up hedges or something. Saw that in the SEC.

Between the hedges--the factory version of Sanford Stadium. Seriously, gotta do something, that is a vast area and why not reward the fans by putting them close to the action?

????

The field isn't moving. If someone is 15 rows up next week they would still be 15 rows up.after the track is removed.

We can add a few hundred field level seats but that doesn't affect the existing seats.

Why are you suddenly confused? Yes, the field is not moving, yes you would add field level seating where the current track now sits. It is a very large gap so I would surmise it would add at LEAST 1,000 seats, probably more to both sides of the field and ALSO behind the endzones. OMG it would almost looks like a real D1 college football stadium!

Try to visualize what a vast area of blank space where the track is on all sides of the stadium. If you don't have field level seating, visitors would think "why is the football field so far away?"

https://emueagles.com/images/2021/12/27/...&mode=crop

(11-09-2023 07:33 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 09:18 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 07:45 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 07:33 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-08-2023 06:16 PM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  What would it cost? The cost of doing business if you want to be big time.

Maybe they could put up hedges or something. Saw that in the SEC.

Between the hedges--the factory version of Sanford Stadium. Seriously, gotta do something, that is a vast area and why not reward the fans by putting them close to the action?

????

The field isn't moving. If someone is 15 rows up next week they would still be 15 rows up.after the track is removed.

We can add a few hundred field level seats but that doesn't affect the existing seats.

Why are you suddenly confused? Yes, the field is not moving, yes you would add field level seating where the current track now sits. It is a very large gap so I would surmise it would add at LEAST 1,000 seats, probably more to both sides of the field and ALSO behind the endzones. OMG it would almost looks like a real D1 college football stadium!

First, no to end zone seating. That would cannibalize home side attendance.

Now, we have essentially a horseshoe (or wishbone?) stadium. We can make use of the end zones on a game by game basis as we do now.

Additional sideline seating is TBD. A number of FBS stadiums have successfully dealt with removing a track.

The sidelines will look 100% better without a RED track. Howard has a BLUE track which doesn't look bad.

(11-09-2023 07:52 AM)Bob Wickersham Wrote:  Try to visualize what a vast area of blank space where the track is on all sides of the stadium. If you don't have field level seating, visitors would think "why is the football field so far away?"

https://emueagles.com/images/2021/12/27/...&mode=crop

BTW, the track area looks a lot different during the game with players, coaches and staff, equipment, etc.

https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Maybe the best example of what can be done.

Hard Rock Stadium in Miami has stands far removed from the field. Think it might have been for soccer.

They built an "inner wall" which eats up a fair amount of turf around the playing field.

EMU could easily built a temporary or perm. Inner wall on each side to eat up say 6 - 8 feet on each side.

P.S. could EMU host big time soccer at Rynearson after the track is gone.

(11-10-2023 11:27 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Maybe the best example of what can be done.

Hard Rock Stadium in Miami has stands far removed from the field. Think it might have been for soccer.

They built an "inner wall" which eats up a fair amount of turf around the playing field.

EMU could easily built a temporary or perm. Inner wall on each side to eat up say 6 - 8 feet on each side.

P.S. could EMU host big time soccer at Rynearson after the track is gone.

A good possibility I might be wrong. But isn't the only way to add additional seating at field level is to lower the field? That would be really expensive proposition? You would have to have some ability to raise each row of seats behind to have a view in front of you? Maybe the current 1st row of seats are high enough to do that already? It just seems like that's what I remember other stadiums with tracks around them needed to do?

(11-10-2023 02:46 PM)Perryshorts1 Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 11:27 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Maybe the best example of what can be done.

Hard Rock Stadium in Miami has stands far removed from the field. Think it might have been for soccer.

They built an "inner wall" which eats up a fair amount of turf around the playing field.

EMU could easily built a temporary or perm. Inner wall on each side to eat up say 6 - 8 feet on each side.

P.S. could EMU host big time soccer at Rynearson after the track is gone.

A good possibility I might be wrong. But isn't the only way to add additional seating at field level is to lower the field? That would be really expensive proposition? You would have to have some ability to raise each row of seats behind to have a view in front of you? Maybe the current 1st row of seats are high enough to do that already? It just seems like that's what I remember other stadiums with tracks around them needed to do?

The first row is elevated about 8 feet above the field. There's room to extend it a couple of rows with a wider aisle at the bottom.

(11-10-2023 02:53 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 02:46 PM)Perryshorts1 Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 11:27 AM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Maybe the best example of what can be done.

Hard Rock Stadium in Miami has stands far removed from the field. Think it might have been for soccer.

They built an "inner wall" which eats up a fair amount of turf around the playing field.

EMU could easily built a temporary or perm. Inner wall on each side to eat up say 6 - 8 feet on each side.

P.S. could EMU host big time soccer at Rynearson after the track is gone.

A good possibility I might be wrong. But isn't the only way to add additional seating at field level is to lower the field? That would be really expensive proposition? You would have to have some ability to raise each row of seats behind to have a view in front of you? Maybe the current 1st row of seats are high enough to do that already? It just seems like that's what I remember other stadiums with tracks around them needed to do?

The first row is elevated about 8 feet above the field. There's room to extend it a couple of rows with a wider aisle at the bottom.

Yes. These seats are called "dream seats" in NFL stadium. The field was not dropped. Yes, it would be expensive and maybe risky. Who wants to risk flooding, ponding, etc.

People who buys these seats STAND during the game to see.

At a MAC school could be 3 rows of bleachers between the existing wall and a temporary inner wall. These seats might be desirable for family and friends of players. "Great catch, son."

Some fans want to be at mid-field15 rows up. Some want to be near the players. Does a girl friend want to be 15 rows up to see the blocking angles? Esp. If the player is a QB.

In the Hard Rock photo the space appears to be unused on both sidelines but used behind the goal lines.

https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Story of Ohio stadium (OSU). They wanted to drop their field 14 feet but had to deal with the water table.

Ohio Stadium is near a river as is Rynearson.

(11-10-2023 04:51 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Story of Ohio stadium (OSU). They wanted to drop their field 14 feet but had to deal with the water table.

Ohio Stadium is near a river as is Rynearson.

Actually it's call Owens drain. And underground Creek

(11-10-2023 06:34 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 04:51 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Story of Ohio stadium (OSU). They wanted to drop their field 14 feet but had to deal with the water table.

Ohio Stadium is near a river as is Rynearson.

Actually it's call Owens drain. And underground Creek

???? I don't understand.

(11-12-2023 12:56 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 06:34 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 04:51 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Story of Ohio stadium (OSU). They wanted to drop their field 14 feet but had to deal with the water table.

Ohio Stadium is near a river as is Rynearson.

Actually it's call Owens drain. And underground Creek

???? I don't understand.

There is a creek under the stadium that have to be rerouted and it's called Owens drain. It's one of the reasons they couldn't build the convo behind the rec/im. People are talking about lowering the field it's one of the reasons they can't.

(11-12-2023 08:29 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-12-2023 12:56 AM)emu steve Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 06:34 PM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(11-10-2023 04:51 PM)emu steve Wrote:  https://footballstadiumdigest.com/wp-con...ch16-5.jpg

Story of Ohio stadium (OSU). They wanted to drop their field 14 feet but had to deal with the water table.

Ohio Stadium is near a river as is Rynearson.

Actually it's call Owens drain. And underground Creek

???? I don't understand.

There is a creek under the stadium that have to be rerouted and it's called Owens drain. It's one of the reasons they couldn't build the convo behind the rec/im. People are talking about lowering the field it's one of the reasons they can't.

Okay. Good info.