(10-28-2023 03:44 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 03:35 PM)Broncodan Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 03:33 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Every position on the team and on the coaching staff needs to be reevaluated. Can't lose to a lowly program like WMU and stay the course.

Lowly program??

How many MAC championship games and NY6 bowl games have you been to in the last 10 years?

Until EMU wins a MAC championship, you can’t call us “lowly”

I said what I said. LOWLY! WMU arrogance gets you nowhere.

I know! What a weird response from BroncoDan?!?!?!

(10-28-2023 03:44 PM)EMUGLORYDAYSthe90s Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 03:38 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 03:33 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  Every position on the team and on the coaching staff needs to be reevaluated. Can't lose to a lowly program like WMU and stay the course.

I agree with your sentiment. This was a really bad loss. I know posters on here pointed out WMU is better than their 2-6 record, but they are still 2-6- a “lowly team” as you say. To be dominated by such a team shows something is wrong.

Ramy, bring on basketball! This football season has been really embarrassing! Getting blown out by 24 points against a 2-6 team! CC has been here a decade now...

This is an outright disappointment so far for sure. A disastrous follow up to last years peak. But I will NEVER complain about Coach Creighton or what he has done for EMU football and the university.

Nonetheless, it looks like we will have to wait for next year to see how the Football team turns out then. So, I am with you, Glory. Bring on the Basketball!!!

(10-28-2023 03:52 PM)RamyEMU Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 03:43 PM)knagy17 Wrote:  Bulletin board material for our boys next year. WMU planted their flag midfield and caused another scuffle after the game

What d*****bags. Excuse my language.

WMU are assh0les.

TEN penalties! Is this a Creighton team? I've never maintained we need to be penalty clean, but unsportsmanlike conduct and personal fouls are 15-yard infractions, this team does not have the talent to overcome as we have seen in the past two weeks.

(10-28-2023 03:43 PM)knagy17 Wrote:  Bulletin board material for our boys next year. WMU planted their flag midfield and caused another scuffle after the game

Right from the beginning of the game, WMU came out and punched EMU in the mouth.


WMU was crisp on offense and defense.

I am beginning to think that the coaching turn over has really impacted this team and season. I saw WMU at Toledo and WMU should have won that game. I gained a lot of respect for this coach Taylor, based on the two times I have seen WMU play they looked very much in synchronicity, usually in the correct position and overall well coached.

You have got to like WMU going forward when this guy brings more talent to kazoo.


I do love our LBs but our DL gets gashed on first downs giving the offense short yardage for line to gain. Of course it doesn’t help our defense when the offense goes continuously 3 and out.

I believe this is CCs second worst team in his EMU tenure.

I was disappointed in all of our penalties: seemed like every special teams play had a holding call or unsportsmanlike penalty. Offensive holding in our end zone by Sooley who hasn’t played well in a few games and of course our QB holds the ball too long and takes sacks in the end zone.

It’s like CC is starting an entire rebuild next season. Really disappointed on how the coaches and team played today.

(10-28-2023 04:23 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 03:43 PM)knagy17 Wrote:  Bulletin board material for our boys next year. WMU planted their flag midfield and caused another scuffle after the game

Right from the beginning of the game, WMU came out and punched EMU in the mouth.


WMU was crisp on offense and defense.

I am beginning to think that the coaching turn over has really impacted this team and season. I saw WMU at Toledo and WMU should have won that game. I gained a lot of respect for this coach Taylor, based on the two times I have seen WMU play they looked very much in synchronicity, usually in the correct position and overall well coached.

You have got to like WMU going forward when this guy brings more talent to kazoo.


I do love our LBs but our DL gets gashed on first downs giving the offense short yardage for line to gain. Of course it doesn’t help our defense when the offense goes continuously 3 and out.

I believe this is CCs second worst team in his EMU tenure.

I was disappointed in all of our penalties: seemed like every special teams play had a holding call or unsportsmanlike penalty. Offensive holding in our end zone by Sooley who hasn’t played well in a few games and of course our QB holds the ball too long and takes sacks in the end zone.

It’s like CC is starting an entire rebuild next season. Really disappointed on how the coaches and team played today.

This clearly is Coach's worst team since his first two seasons. Even the 5-7 2017 team had more offensive firepower with just one receiver (Sergio Bailey) and two running backs (Shaq and Ericksen) that would ride the pine today. They did, however, have a rifle armed QB, unlike this year. Both had adequate defenses, this year's team simply has ZERO margin for error, yet errors quite often. It has, however, benefited from an incredibly soft schedule that to date, masked its deficiencies.

Creighton got absolutely slapped in the face today. Not only will he NOT celebrate winning the Michigan MAC trophy, this team clearly won't see a bowl invite DESPITE drawing the two worst MAC East teams in crossover games and unlike WMU and CMU only playing one payday game. A wake-up call, to be sure.

Dear Friends,
Again, from the last game comments, I agree with the criticisms. What I have said over and over again is that Creighton is too conservative in his play calling. Any coach with half a brain, doesn't keep calling the same play over and over when the yardage gained is minimal at best. Why give the ball to Samson on many short yardage situations, when everyone in the stadium knows he is going to get the call.
Why can't we run reverses, flea flickers, power sweeps to the wide side of the field, etc?

(10-28-2023 05:38 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Again, from the last game comments, I agree with the criticisms. What I have said over and over again is that Creighton is too conservative in his play calling. Any coach with half a brain, doesn't keep calling the same play over and over when the yardage gained is minimal at best. Why give the ball to Samson on many short yardage situations, when everyone in the stadium knows he is going to get the call.
Why can't we run reverses, flea flickers, power sweeps to the wide side of the field, etc?

I got to the game late today. That said, you make a good point.

On our fourth down conversion attempts, the WMU defensive linemen were in a four-point stance with their chests near the ground, as the low man wins in such situations where the opponent runs straight at you for short yardage. They did indeed know what was coming and were ready for it.

I also don't quite understand why we don't run the option or sweeps with a speedy back like Jackson.

(10-28-2023 06:02 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 05:38 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Again, from the last game comments, I agree with the criticisms. What I have said over and over again is that Creighton is too conservative in his play calling. Any coach with half a brain, doesn't keep calling the same play over and over when the yardage gained is minimal at best. Why give the ball to Samson on many short yardage situations, when everyone in the stadium knows he is going to get the call.
Why can't we run reverses, flea flickers, power sweeps to the wide side of the field, etc?

I got to the game late today. That said, you make a good point.

On our fourth down conversion attempts, the WMU defensive linemen were in a four-point stance with their chests near the ground, as the low man wins in such situations where the opponent runs straight at you for short yardage. They did indeed know what was coming and were ready for it.

I also don't quite understand why we don't run the option or sweeps with a speedy back like Jackson.

The vanilla offense needs to go. If you don't have the talent to overpower people, then you need to get creative.

Worst beat down of a EMU team I have seen in the more recent CC era. Hey coach time to bring in a new crew of QBs the current backups are inadequate to win. Outside of his interception Smith had a better game but his interception and getting sacked in the end zone sigh much yet to learn. Penalties have cost us points and games ALL year. How many lining up offsides do we need to get before we don't do it? Four turnovers that isn't EMU football. This whole season has been a disappointment and hasn't been up to standard. I don't see a bowl game for this team. Just painful to watch this team implode in different ways each week. Lots of soul searching in the off season for staff and players. Thanks to Ken for his hospitality towards Chris and me. Much appreciated. By the way refs have cost us this season and this crew was a disgrace. Sorry but it needs to be said.

(10-28-2023 04:16 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  TEN penalties! Is this a Creighton team? I've never maintained we need to be penalty clean, but unsportsmanlike conduct and personal fouls are 15-yard infractions, this team does not have the talent to overcome as we have seen in the past two weeks.

Yes - is this the standard? Typically a team with so many penalties lacks discipline or lacks talent or lacks talent and discipline.


I love coach Creighton and he can coach here at least a few more seasons but I’m beginning to think he’s burned out.

(10-28-2023 06:07 PM)TheWoodenNickle Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 06:02 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 05:38 PM)Ken Barna Wrote:  Dear Friends,
Again, from the last game comments, I agree with the criticisms. What I have said over and over again is that Creighton is too conservative in his play calling. Any coach with half a brain, doesn't keep calling the same play over and over when the yardage gained is minimal at best. Why give the ball to Samson on many short yardage situations, when everyone in the stadium knows he is going to get the call.
Why can't we run reverses, flea flickers, power sweeps to the wide side of the field, etc?

I got to the game late today. That said, you make a good point.

On our fourth down conversion attempts, the WMU defensive linemen were in a four-point stance with their chests near the ground, as the low man wins in such situations where the opponent runs straight at you for short yardage. They did indeed know what was coming and were ready for it.

I also don't quite understand why we don't run the option or sweeps with a speedy back like Jackson.

The vanilla offense needs to go. If you don't have the talent to overpower people, then you need to get creative.

Nickle, I am with you and Sir Ken.

Remember that seemingly silly INT Powell threw in the end zone last year against SJSU in the Potato Bowl when the game was ours?

I WAS ABSOLUTELY GIDDY ABOUT IT! Creighton, for the first time, was playing to actually WIN a game, instead of NOT losing it. His 0-6 record in OT and history of one score losses made me ill.

That said, one question was answered today. Austin Smith is not very good, but we did see today what we have on the bench behind him. Five years ago, Coach surprisingly started Preston Hutchinson against WMU and unexpectedly and uncharacteristically "stole" a game against a more talented opponent. Ike and Cam'Ron are obviously NOT Hutch, not even close.

Time to consider a change at the offensive coordinator/QB coach.

(10-28-2023 06:37 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Time to consider a change at the offensive coordinator/QB coach.

Agree with many of the comments. So many areas to address for next season.
1. Offensive line this year has underperformed (I understand they are a mash unit but no one csn say they dominated a game).

2. QB. We don't have a QB that gives us a competitive advantage to win. If we do win its likely because our defense or Special Teams played excellent. I would seriously bring in 2 portal guys

3. Linebackers. We lose our aces next year in Sparacio and Kline. Behind them it's brutal.

4. Offensive coordinator. Our schemes thus year have been awful. EMU will likely be the LAST in FBS for offense. This is with a 10th year head coach. It's laughable. How you don't get a creative, smart guy in to do this is abysmal.

This loss feels different to me It's not a normal loss and I have a feeling this one will get people asking questions

(10-28-2023 06:37 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Time to consider a change at the offensive coordinator/QB coach.

Regarding the staff, I noticed at the season ticket holders event in July that most of the staff was quite young. Not many of them are over 30. Inexperience could be a factor.

Coach Creighton stated the game was lost earlier in the week


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uS_1KQ7UjU...e=youtu.be

(10-28-2023 08:11 PM)steve4840 Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 06:37 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Time to consider a change at the offensive coordinator/QB coach.

Agree with many of the comments. So many areas to address for next season.
1. Offensive line this year has underperformed (I understand they are a mash unit but no one csn say they dominated a game).

2. QB. We don't have a QB that gives us a competitive advantage to win. If we do win its likely because our defense or Special Teams played excellent. I would seriously bring in 2 portal guys

3. Linebackers. We lose our aces next year in Sparacio and Kline. Behind them it's brutal.

4. Offensive coordinator. Our schemes thus year have been awful. EMU will likely be the LAST in FBS for offense. This is with a 10th year head coach. It's laughable. How you don't get a creative, smart guy in to do this is abysmal.

This loss feels different to me It's not a normal loss and I have a feeling this one will get people asking questions

Agree Steve - this loss felt different. It looked like the entire team was not ready, lacked intensity, and played like they were going thru the motions like they want the season to be over.


Not at all impressed with some OL and all three QBs on the roster.


This game definitely felt different - like even the coaches are not tied together working on a common goal - hard to explain

(10-28-2023 06:37 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Time to consider a change at the offensive coordinator/QB coach.

Don't count on it.

(10-29-2023 12:32 AM)EagleHawk Wrote:  

(10-28-2023 06:37 PM)emu79 Wrote:  Time to consider a change at the offensive coordinator/QB coach.

Don't count on it.

Oh I not saying CC will do so but that he should. He got rid of his first defensive coordinator and brought in a new one and that changed things overnight. Time to do the same on offense.

https://x.com/thevannzee/status/17183465...64848?s=20