(10-02-2023 09:30 AM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Man, you guys should have been around when it was BAD!

Oh I was.....this group Saturday night gave me those feelings, they were that bad.

Did anyone else see where the play clock had expired prior to the 55 yard FG to win the game? There is a clear shot of it where you can see and of course they didn’t catch that.

I remember an AState game many moons ago where the officials marked off 15 yards for a holding penalty and it took a near act of god to get the officials to realize holding is a 10 yard penalty.

Many of the worst horror stories exist in the period of time when Video Review had not been approved by the SBC yet, or was in its first couple years. There were many situations were clearly bad calls were not correctable, or worse, were unable to be corrected because the school was using a 2 camera set up to broadcast a football game ala 1950's baseball, so there was no video of the play to show it was wrong.

(10-02-2023 12:36 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Did anyone else see where the play clock had expired prior to the 55 yard FG to win the game? There is a clear shot of it where you can see and of course they didn’t catch that.

If you read the rules on the play clock, its not about when the play clock hits zero, its when the back judge looks up to see the play clock hits zero, and then looks back at the field to see the ball hasn't been snapped yet.

As a result, you get a fair amount of plays where the ball was snapped just after the clock hit zero and no call was made.

The refs at the GS-CCU game were terrible too.

(10-01-2023 12:04 PM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  I know that we all have our horror stories about the quality of officials that the SBC sends to our games, but the group last night for the ULM-App St game has been the worst I have seen as a collective group in a long time.

This group had no control over the game at all. They allowed chirping and extra curricular stuff to go on way too long. I saw two handed shoves after plays. Players locked up and blocking way out of the play and no official coming in to break it up. Not saying one side or the other were choirboys, but the officials just seemed to not care.

One blatant PI was not called with a receiver being grabbed and turned. Another possible one that I will be very generous and say he thought was uncatchable. We probably got away with an offensive pass interference. Couple of hits that I have seen called numerous times for out of bounds. Think we got away with one.

As far as reviews goes, a TD run where the runner's foot appeared to hit the sideline wasn't looked at. A fumble was ruled possessed and done (we got it) but I am not sure it was ever possessed because no sooner had the player dropped down it seemed the ball came back out and another defender scooped it up and was off to the races. And there were a couple of hits that were pretty high for both teams that I was expecting reviews for targeting but nothing ever happened.

I am positive that App St fans have plays also singled out as well. I think both sides can agree that was a sorry bunch in stripes.

That crew was really bad. It seemed like the refs were fixed on one or two calls repeatedly but let everything else go.

Lots of PI not called in our game. Once the TX ST guy hugged our WR, chest to chest, holding his arms down. The ball sails over his head and no flag. I don't think they called PI outside of the Endzone all day, so TX ST fans can probably call out some similar ones against us as well.

(10-02-2023 12:51 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(10-02-2023 12:36 PM)Arrowhead Wrote:  Did anyone else see where the play clock had expired prior to the 55 yard FG to win the game? There is a clear shot of it where you can see and of course they didn’t catch that.

If you read the rules on the play clock, its not about when the play clock hits zero, its when the back judge looks up to see the play clock hits zero, and then looks back at the field to see the ball hasn't been snapped yet.

As a result, you get a fair amount of plays where the ball was snapped just after the clock hit zero and no call was made.

but there are play clocks at both ends of the field. He shouldn't have to turn his head. I wasn't watching the play clock on the field, just hoping he would miss so don't know if the TV clock was off from the field clock.

WE WIN THE GAME! Time to appeal and have the game outcome overturned!!!

LOL...in all seriousness, yes the playclock had hit zero but in reality you always have about 0.5 - just under 1 second after to get the ball snapped. In this case, the snap happened pretty quickly after the playclock hit zero. That said, I fully believe if the roles were reversed, that whistle would have blown before the "0" lights fully charged.

(10-02-2023 08:23 AM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  

(10-01-2023 10:26 PM)T-Dog Wrote:  

(10-01-2023 12:04 PM)InjunJohn86 Wrote:  As far as reviews goes, a TD run where the runner's foot appeared to hit the sideline wasn't looked at.

I looked at it. I don't see how it would be overturned on replay. White cleat next to a white sideline and no down the line shot. It's very close.

The game was very chippy. Multiple late hits both ways, after plays and after a player stepped out. There was once where two players shoved each other well after a whistle on a kickoff and not only was nothing called, the refs didn't even run in to break it up like most crews do. That spoke to me about a lack of willingness to control the game.

also, I don't know what Sun Belt crew did App/ECU two weeks ago, but they didn't call OPI/DPI once either way, so it was open season out there. At least they were consistent.

The three times they did video review worked fine, even though all of them went against App with two overturns.

I don't disagree with you on that play. I doubt there was an angle that might have overturned the call either way it was called. I was just shocked that they didn't take a look. There was a play where an App St player was being tackled (spun around) and definitely got a blow to the head. I would have sworn it would have been looked at. I didn't think it was targeting because of the spin and him going down. There was also a hit delivered high by an App St player that I thought would be looked at (didn't think it was targeting either from my brief look at replay).

The umpire for that crew is particularly worthless. He can't move.

This was an ESPN+ game which means fewer cameras on site so there's fewer views or NO views depending on location on the field where the questionable play takes place. Wayne Gentry's crew does the best they can with camera locations but there are no extra cameras unless the game is on ESPNU or ESPN2 or ESPN itself.

I didn't really have any issue with our crew on Saturday. There was one PI call I thought was garbage in the moment and I thought our guy played the ball really well. My buddy thought our guy climbed the receiver's back to play the ball so thought it was a good call. The replay shown in the stadium was garbage and I haven't gone back to watch it so tough to say.

Either way though, I'm definitely happy with a game where a couple days later there's just one questionable call that comes to mind.