(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

Cincinnati is ranked #300. We're way ahead of several notable schools. Shows all the bull**** that's been going on.

2023 National college rankings

People were saying no way Wisconsin was #20 US in the world ranking list I posted. They're #11 on this one.

Schools Dumber Than Memphis. Dumber than Memphis.

132-Memphis
137-Oregon State
138-UNLV
142-West Virginia
146-Penn State
147-Gonzaga
149-Buffalo
150-Oregon
152-Tennessee
158-Clemson
159-Colorado
171-Nebraska
176-Purdue
187-Oklahoma
191-Kansas
201-Kentucky
208-Houston
213-UAB
215-Texas Tech
218-Ole Miss
240-MTSU
247-Hawaii
253-Louisville
257-Auburn
264-Wichita State
270-Depaul
292-Miss State
300-Cincinnati
302-North Texas
315-Alabama
323-Miami
346-Arkansas
358-Boise State
392-Tulsa

A lot of people from a lot of those schools on this list, have ragged on us over the years for our academics.

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Very important to recognize these universities who serve rural and lower economic populations. That is in their mission in many cases.

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Have to agree, I'm impressed with their methodology. It does away with elitism and focuses on the real world.

Good stuff. Thanks for posting TripleA

This isn't a ranking based on who is smart or not.

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(08-29-2023 09:08 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Very important to recognize these universities who serve rural and lower economic populations. That is in their mission in many cases.

I've argued this for a very long time. We get a lot of flak over our admissions but we serve this exact population and that matters a great deal where the real world operates

(08-29-2023 09:08 AM)Sea Pirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Very important to recognize these universities who serve rural and lower economic populations. That is in their mission in many cases.

Furthermore; diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) is vigorously and virtuously trumpeted by the same academic leadership at schools whose high marks are earned in large part through highly selective admission policies (excepting admissions for legacy kids when their parents donate large sums and/or obtain fame).

(08-29-2023 09:10 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Have to agree, I'm impressed with their methodology. It does away with elitism and focuses on the real world.

Good stuff. Thanks for posting TripleA

You can thank our ex-President, Dr. Rudd, who made it his objective not to necessarily only improve our academic prowess, but to make it better known, along with publicizing what our university mission is, which is to serve our community and its population.

For that purpose, our tuition is low, our admission rate is 95%, and our resultant graduation rate is much lower than some expensive land grant university, which hurt us in the typical rankings. Also, sitting in the middle of a big city, our on student campus population is much lower than land grant schools sitting in some rural cow pasture, so that hurt us, as well. And our number of married students, many with kids, is also much higher.

Those old school rankings are designed to make the wealthy, more exclusive schools look as good as possible. For years, our admin didn't even bother to send in filings to those rankings, thus another major factor in our bad academic rep.

Dr. Rudd changed all that by submitting the forms. We climbed a bit, also became an R1 research U, and improved our rep through these types of efforts.

But from personal experience many years ago, I know the education I received there was excellent. But nobody else outside Memphis knew it.

This rankings are full of ****. I am an UTSA alum and no way UTSA is ranked at 107. How the hell can anyone explain ASU ranked above Brown or UT RGV ranked ahead of it's flagship university.

#33. Arizona State University
#43. Brown University
#60. UT - Rio Grande Valley
#76. Sam Houston State University
#87. UT - Austin

(08-29-2023 09:25 AM)Mogambo Wrote:  This rankings are full of ****. I am an UTSA alum and no way UTSA is ranked at 107. How the hell can anyone explain ASU ranked above Brown or UT RGV ranked ahead of it's flagship university.

#33. Arizona State University
#43. Brown University
#60. UT - Rio Grande Valley
#76. Sam Houston State University
#87. UT - Austin

Read the thread title and tweet verbiage. It is a ranking of universities that "serve the non-wealthy." Not your typical USNWR ranking.

There is more than one way to rank a university. Including its mission should be an important factor. Not all universities serve the same purpose.

(08-29-2023 09:25 AM)Mogambo Wrote:  This rankings are full of ****. I am an UTSA alum and no way UTSA is ranked at 107. How the hell can anyone explain ASU ranked above Brown or UT RGV ranked ahead of it's flagship university.

#33. Arizona State University
#43. Brown University
#60. UT - Rio Grande Valley
#76. Sam Houston State University
#87. UT - Austin

UTSA graduates some of the best civil engineers I’ve ever worked with.

(08-29-2023 09:25 AM)Mogambo Wrote:  This rankings are full of ****. I am an UTSA alum and no way UTSA is ranked at 107. How the hell can anyone explain ASU ranked above Brown or UT RGV ranked ahead of it's flagship university.

#33. Arizona State University
#43. Brown University
#60. UT - Rio Grande Valley
#76. Sam Houston State University
#87. UT - Austin

There is a link to the methodology posted on the same page as the rankings. Give it a look, it's very balanced and practical

(08-29-2023 09:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 09:10 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Have to agree, I'm impressed with their methodology. It does away with elitism and focuses on the real world.

Good stuff. Thanks for posting TripleA

You can thank our ex-President, Dr. Rudd, who made it his objective not to necessarily only improve our academic prowess, but to make it better known, along with publicizing what our university mission is, which is to serve our community and its population.

For that purpose, our tuition is low, our admission rate is 95%, and our resultant graduation rate is much lower than some expensive land grant university, which hurt us in the typical rankings. Also, sitting in the middle of a big city, our on student campus population is much lower than land grant schools sitting in some rural cow pasture, so that hurt us, as well. And our number of married students, many with kids, is also much higher.

Those old school rankings are designed to make the wealthy, more exclusive schools look as good as possible. For years, our admin didn't even bother to send in filings to those rankings, thus another major factor in our bad academic rep.

Dr. Rudd changed all that by submitting the forms. We climbed a bit, also became an R1 research U, and improved our rep through these types of efforts.

But from personal experience many years ago, I know the education I received there was excellent. But nobody else outside Memphis knew it.

Memphis and East Carolina are very similar in their respective mission's.

Question about R1, I recently had a very informal conversation with someone on campus about ECU pursuing R1. I was told that the majority of the PhD professors that primarily teach would drop dramatically because they would have to focus primarily on research and publishing partly because of the need to continually pursue grants. Have you gotten any feedback on this since Memphis moved up a category in the research world?

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

I am sort of surprised (I've not looked at the methodology) that Rice is ranked so high. Combining this with the various purely academic rankings and USNews indicates to me that we're doing a lot right.

(08-29-2023 09:32 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 09:25 AM)Mogambo Wrote:  This rankings are full of ****. I am an UTSA alum and no way UTSA is ranked at 107. How the hell can anyone explain ASU ranked above Brown or UT RGV ranked ahead of it's flagship university.

#33. Arizona State University
#43. Brown University
#60. UT - Rio Grande Valley
#76. Sam Houston State University
#87. UT - Austin

UTSA graduates some of the best civil engineers I’ve ever worked with.

I hope you get to work with my son some day.

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

One of the reasons, I am dearly in love with my alma mater (FAU) is that I, a poor recent immigrant, had really no other option for higher education to have any chance of advancing in this life. Where I am today, I have only myself and my school to thank. My kids are enrolled there. Of course, 2023 is different from 1992 but I hope they appreciate the opportunities good ole FAU still gives them. Once an Owl, Owl for life.

(08-29-2023 09:51 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 09:20 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 09:10 AM)PuddlePirate Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 08:00 AM)NoQuarterBrigade Wrote:  

(08-29-2023 06:37 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

An actual fair ranking for a change. In the top 150:

#46 FAU
#53 USF
#86 ECU
#95 Rice
#107 UTSA
#122 Charlotte
#132 Memphis

Have to agree, I'm impressed with their methodology. It does away with elitism and focuses on the real world.

Good stuff. Thanks for posting TripleA

You can thank our ex-President, Dr. Rudd, who made it his objective not to necessarily only improve our academic prowess, but to make it better known, along with publicizing what our university mission is, which is to serve our community and its population.

For that purpose, our tuition is low, our admission rate is 95%, and our resultant graduation rate is much lower than some expensive land grant university, which hurt us in the typical rankings. Also, sitting in the middle of a big city, our on student campus population is much lower than land grant schools sitting in some rural cow pasture, so that hurt us, as well. And our number of married students, many with kids, is also much higher.

Those old school rankings are designed to make the wealthy, more exclusive schools look as good as possible. For years, our admin didn't even bother to send in filings to those rankings, thus another major factor in our bad academic rep.

Dr. Rudd changed all that by submitting the forms. We climbed a bit, also became an R1 research U, and improved our rep through these types of efforts.

But from personal experience many years ago, I know the education I received there was excellent. But nobody else outside Memphis knew it.

Memphis and East Carolina are very similar in their respective mission's.

Question about R1, I recently had a very informal conversation with someone on campus about ECU pursuing R1. I was told that the majority of the PhD professors that primarily teach would drop dramatically because they would have to focus primarily on research and publishing partly because of the need to continually pursue grants. Have you gotten any feedback on this since Memphis moved up a category in the research world?

No, the peeps I talk to are tied into the sports side, not the academic and research side.