So after I eat dinner, I expect to come back here and find one of you breaking the news that the Big XII is adding more PAC-12 schools. Don’t let me down, guys! :-)

Not really anything decided yet . . . at least reportedly.

Pac-12 Presidents Reportedly Considering Apple-Streaming Media Rights Deal

(08-01-2023 07:13 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  Not really anything decided yet . . . at least reportedly.

Pac-12 Presidents Reportedly Considering Apple-Streaming Media Rights Deal

BY hasn't finished his dinner yet, unlike some people!

One of the real possibilities...and real risks...of the "subscription" model is that you could end up with a wildly uneven revenue distribution depending on how the subs are managed. Schools with a LARGE subscription base could end up with a large revenue stream while "small market" teams could end up with a small revenue stream. You might have to end up doing something like MLB where smaller market teams are subsidized by the larger market programs.

So, conceivably Washington, Oregon, Arizona State, Utah, and Stanford win big while Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, and even Arizona end up on the short end.

My magic 8-ball says Arizona by tomorrow

(08-01-2023 09:25 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  One of the real possibilities...and real risks...of the "subscription" model is that you could end up with a wildly uneven revenue distribution depending on how the subs are managed. Schools with a LARGE subscription base could end up with a large revenue stream while "small market" teams could end up with a small revenue stream. You might have to end up doing something like MLB where smaller market teams are subsidized by the larger market programs.

So, conceivably Washington, Oregon, Arizona State, Utah, and Stanford win big while Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, and even Arizona end up on the short end.

I don't think that's how it works Jerry.

(08-01-2023 09:25 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  One of the real possibilities...and real risks...of the "subscription" model is that you could end up with a wildly uneven revenue distribution depending on how the subs are managed. Schools with a LARGE subscription base could end up with a large revenue stream while "small market" teams could end up with a small revenue stream. You might have to end up doing something like MLB where smaller market teams are subsidized by the larger market programs.

So, conceivably Washington, Oregon, Arizona State, Utah, and Stanford win big while Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, and even Arizona end up on the short end.

Does it work like that?... Don't ALL OF THE RIGHTS (money) go to the Conference? The Conference then distributes the money to the teams.

Similar to our Tier3 rights with ESPN+

So.... the AZ Board meeting was a nothing burger?

I think most of you all need to turn off the twitter feeds and just sit back and wait for some real news to come out.

This site could get real tedious if the kids on here keep posting every click-bait tweet made by the clueless media types.

(08-02-2023 07:28 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  So.... the AZ Board meeting was a nothing burger?

I think most of you all need to turn off the twitter feeds and just sit back and wait for some real news to come out.

This site could get real tedious if the kids on here keep posting every click-bait tweet made by the clueless media types.

Lighten up Francis. How do you know the ABOR meeting was for nothing? Source? Here's the thing, many of us have come from active boards. Repeat...ACTIVE team and conference boards. This one was all but dead until the four new adds. If you don't like the posts then don't read through the threads or make a comment that doesn't add to the discussion. This is what this site is for - discussion and engagement. Carry-on.

(08-02-2023 07:25 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(08-01-2023 09:25 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  One of the real possibilities...and real risks...of the "subscription" model is that you could end up with a wildly uneven revenue distribution depending on how the subs are managed. Schools with a LARGE subscription base could end up with a large revenue stream while "small market" teams could end up with a small revenue stream. You might have to end up doing something like MLB where smaller market teams are subsidized by the larger market programs.

So, conceivably Washington, Oregon, Arizona State, Utah, and Stanford win big while Washington State, Oregon State, Cal, and even Arizona end up on the short end.

Does it work like that?... Don't ALL OF THE RIGHTS (money) go to the Conference? The Conference then distributes the money to the teams.

Similar to our Tier3 rights with ESPN+

I think we're in a new territory here. And, like I said, I think it's HOW the thing is defined. If it's defined as a "Conference Network" then that's one thing. But if it's defined as individual schools selling subscriptions, it might be something different.

Up to this point, it's been about averages: the "larger" schools bringing up smaller schools. But this seems...different. If the University of Washington just sells more subscriptions than Washington State...by a wide margin here...does that get shared through "the Conference" or does UW benefit more from that? A "Conference Network" subscription would throw all those subs into a common pot. But Apple could easily sell, not a subscription to a "Conference Network" (i.e. "The Big Ten Network") but just "UW" content. The short-coming of a "Conference Network" is that, perhaps the UW fan doesn't want to watch "Arizona vs. Utah," but they have to because that's "what's on." But an on-line subscription could allow a UW fan to stream UW content regardless on time, day, etc...

Even "ESPN+" still is a corporate entity. But what if ESPN+ allowed you to specify exactly which team you wanted to buy an option for? Instead of a blanket $10/month (or whatever ESPN+ goes for these days) you could pay $5 to specifically get "Your Team's" sub-package? And you don't care that ESPN+ is streaming "Appalachia State vs. Marshall" or "James Madison vs. Southern Mississippi" or any of the other gazillion small games out there...

If AppleTV is the primary buyer of the PAC content, they can choose to parcel that out in new ways. And it might make SENSE for the University of Washington to stay in the PAC because they would get compensated at a higher rate via subscriptions while Washington State still gets more than the next lower conference...but not at UW rates.

It's a brave new world.

(08-02-2023 09:01 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-02-2023 07:28 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  So.... the AZ Board meeting was a nothing burger?

I think most of you all need to turn off the twitter feeds and just sit back and wait for some real news to come out.

This site could get real tedious if the kids on here keep posting every click-bait tweet made by the clueless media types.

Lighten up Francis. How do you know the ABOR meeting was for nothing? Source? Here's the thing, many of us have come from active boards. Repeat...ACTIVE team and conference boards.

so... you're confirming nothing so far? Active rumors, is not "active"....

I was invited to come to this board and participate in the new conference, but if it's going to be filled with crybaby posts like your last one, then I'll likely skip out and go back to the OSU active boards and leave this fantasy world behind.

I simply asked for more facts and less gossip

Francis

"The Arizona board of regents, which oversees Arizona and ASU, met later Tuesday, but no decision was expected after the meeting."
Pete Thamel and Heather Dinich Aug 1,

there it is.... nothing was expected = nothing burger for a "Tuesday of Champions" thread.

(08-02-2023 10:52 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(08-02-2023 09:01 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-02-2023 07:28 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  So.... the AZ Board meeting was a nothing burger?

I think most of you all need to turn off the twitter feeds and just sit back and wait for some real news to come out.

This site could get real tedious if the kids on here keep posting every click-bait tweet made by the clueless media types.

Lighten up Francis. How do you know the ABOR meeting was for nothing? Source? Here's the thing, many of us have come from active boards. Repeat...ACTIVE team and conference boards.

so... you're confirming nothing so far? Active rumors, is not "active"....

I was invited to come to this board and participate in the new conference, but if it's going to be filled with crybaby posts like your last one, then I'll likely skip out and go back to the OSU active boards and leave this fantasy world behind.

I simply asked for more facts and less gossip

Francis

I think at this point you aren’t going to get “facts” until one of the schools makes an official announcement. Until then, all we have to go off of are “insiders” and their “sources.” You can either enjoy that speculation while we wait or not. I for one enjoy the “gossip” until announcements are made. Otherwise, these boards would be dead with not much to talk about. But that’s just me.

Go Pokes!

(08-02-2023 10:52 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  

(08-02-2023 09:01 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  

(08-02-2023 07:28 AM)CaliforniaCowboy Wrote:  So.... the AZ Board meeting was a nothing burger?

I think most of you all need to turn off the twitter feeds and just sit back and wait for some real news to come out.

This site could get real tedious if the kids on here keep posting every click-bait tweet made by the clueless media types.

Lighten up Francis. How do you know the ABOR meeting was for nothing? Source? Here's the thing, many of us have come from active boards. Repeat...ACTIVE team and conference boards.

so... you're confirming nothing so far? Active rumors, is not "active"....

I was invited to come to this board and participate in the new conference, but if it's going to be filled with crybaby posts like your last one, then I'll likely skip out and go back to the OSU active boards and leave this fantasy world behind.

I simply asked for more facts and less gossip

Francis

I'm speaking only for myself here, but I'm excited about the possibility of adding on another PAC-12 school or two (or three or more - who knows at this point). I'm enjoying reading whatever information that sources like Brett McMurphy, who are usually more reliable, can give us even if some of it just turns out to be rumor. Facts are better than rumors when talking about this topic, I agree with that sentiment, but I also like it when some of these reporters who are talking to people with some knowledge of the meetings give us a little bit of their own theories if there is at least some amount of evidence to support it. For example, Jason Creer said in response to a question on 365 Sports that he thinks, at this moment, Arizona is leaning toward joining the Big 12 based on what he knew at the time of that interview. He did also say that doesn't mean it's a foregone conclusion; he described it as being a fluid situation. So as long as someone can back up a theory with some sort of evidence to support it, I'm good with it even if that person doesn't have all of the facts but brings a modicum of insider perspective.

If schools in the same conference end up with vastly different revenue streams that is typically not good. Look at MLB and the same teams being top dogs year after year. As soon as a lower revenue teams gets good it loses it players after a few years.

The NFL does it best.

If it was such a good deal CO would not have walked and the others would have announced "We are in!"

(08-01-2023 07:45 PM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(08-01-2023 07:13 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  Not really anything decided yet . . . at least reportedly.

Pac-12 Presidents Reportedly Considering Apple-Streaming Media Rights Deal

BY hasn't finished his dinner yet, unlike some people!

Guess I should've eaten slower so they'd have more time.

The B1G is ready to eat again

(08-02-2023 03:03 PM)Endeavor. Wrote:  The B1G is ready to eat again

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Your links aren't working for me, but I read over at Yahoo that sources say the Big 10 is looking into possibly adding Oregon, Washington, Cal, and Stanford, which would pretty much take care of the Pacific Northwest and the Bay Area. Imagine Big 10 conference matchups such as Rutgers versus Washington, or how about Maryland versus Stanford? These sound more like bowl games than conference games. Crazy times we're living in.