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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
(07-01-2023 07:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(07-01-2023 07:08 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  This has no reflection on, or ramification for, anyone. It certainly does not reflect on the PAC 12 at all.

how does it not reflect on the pac 12?

the mwc exit fees double to nearly 35million if sdsu did not give a notice by yesterday.. and would have started the exit timer (1 year) ... you will have to negotiate to leave sooner. it will be close to 50 million if sdsu plans to join before the 2025 season (note the 1 year period can not touch any part of the next season, which starts july 1st, even if 1 day is included you have to include the whole year.. so after today, you have to stay 2023 & 2024 seasons to not require Renegotiating the exit fee to be higher)
--- this is why sdsu asked the mwc for an 1 month extension that the MWC declined

All reports say the pac 12 wants to add sdsu in few weeks.. but dont want to commit to it till the tv deal is done .. they have internal info (what the tv deal will generally look like) .. good leadership would have had everything planned out

this 100% has bad reflection for the pac 12 ..

if they add sdsu in a few weeks that would be horrendous decision making from the pac 12, theyd have cost sdsu close to 35million becuase they couldnt decide 1 month earlier.. you are bringing in sdsu to succed, 35mill is huge sum for sdsu.. why sdsu was hoping for an extension. you are hurting a team you want to succeed

this feels exactly like last year when the big 12 teams were begging the pac 12 for an invite.. and could make a timely decisions and are now paying for that!

USC blocked the PAC Commissioners expansion recommendation by coaxing others to table for one year, then within a year screwed all their 90 year partners. Cutthroat, but that's not on the conference Admin.
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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
(07-01-2023 02:48 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  Am surprised no one noticed SDSU's decision today to stay with the MWC. SDSU, who is slated to head to the PAC 12, had until June 30th to declare they would leave the conf in a yr. Thus....pay like 15 mill to exit the MWC. After that date the exit fee goes up to 34 mill.
Does that make sense? SDSU and the PAC 12 have been having talks all along and it is almost a foregone conclusion they will get an invite. So.....why waste 20 mill? Another scenario is SDSU may NOT be such a shoe in for the PAC 12. That would be a surprise.
What could be in the back of the BOT's heads that would make them throw away all that $$?

SDSU made it plain to the Pac that their cost to leave MWC doubled after June 30. No Pac-12 contract signed, no invite to SDSU. Were they supposed to leave the MWC and go independent in hopes that the new contract would be big enough and that they'd really get an invite?

I can't blame them for deciding to stay. Would you resign your job because another employer was interested in hiring you, says they'll pay you much more money, but there is no job offer yet?
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(07-02-2023 08:44 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  
(07-01-2023 02:48 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  Am surprised no one noticed SDSU's decision today to stay with the MWC. SDSU, who is slated to head to the PAC 12, had until June 30th to declare they would leave the conf in a yr. Thus....pay like 15 mill to exit the MWC. After that date the exit fee goes up to 34 mill.
Does that make sense? SDSU and the PAC 12 have been having talks all along and it is almost a foregone conclusion they will get an invite. So.....why waste 20 mill? Another scenario is SDSU may NOT be such a shoe in for the PAC 12. That would be a surprise.
What could be in the back of the BOT's heads that would make them throw away all that $$?

SDSU made it plain to the Pac that their cost to leave MWC doubled after June 30. No Pac-12 contract signed, no invite to SDSU. Were they supposed to leave the MWC and go independent in hopes that the new contract would be big enough and that they'd really get an invite?

I can't blame them for deciding to stay. Would you resign your job because another employer was interested in hiring you, says they'll pay you much more money, but there is no job offer yet?
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You ask the wrong question....

"I can't blame them for deciding to stay. Would you resign your job because another employer was interested in hiring you, says they'll pay you much more money, but there is no job offer yet?"

The question should be...Is it worth waiting for an invite to the P5 if there is an, (almost), assured spot? Or rather be an indy, like UConn for a yr or 2 and seek out one of those west coast conf's out there for all the other sports?
OR-----Spend 20 mill more $$'s to continue to be in a conf you are always going to try and leave, anyway?....and if all reports are correct....are PAC 12 bound.

I gotta tell ya.....UConn is looking pretty desirable to a few P5 conf's. Much more than they were when they were in the AAC. My point is....SDSU wouldn't be doing themselves too much of a dis-service if they left the conf and hung out as indy for awhile.
Don't like their move here. Seems very stupid economically. But....haha....it ain't my $$.
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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.
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(07-03-2023 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.

Pretty sure they would know what the new contract would be before invite came. Let’s look at numbers.
SDSU makes about 4 million in TV money from MWC and about 8 million total yearly.

Assuming the PAC TV contract comes in at 25 million, the total payout yearly would probably be 38-40 million. If SDSU gets 15 million tv and 7 million more from the Conference that’s 22 million, half what other make.

That would be 14 million more per year + you are in a P5 conference with Stanford and Cal.

That would still be a no brainer even if you pay MWC 25 million to leave.
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(07-03-2023 09:54 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.

Pretty sure they would know what the new contract would be before invite came. Let’s look at numbers.
SDSU makes about 4 million in TV money from MWC and about 8 million total yearly.

Assuming the PAC TV contract comes in at 25 million, the total payout yearly would probably be 38-40 million. If SDSU gets 15 million tv and 7 million more from the Conference that’s 22 million, half what other make.

That would be 14 million more per year + you are in a P5 conference with Stanford and Cal.

That would still be a no brainer even if you pay MWC 25 million to leave.

That $25M guess assumes no one leaves the PAC. It might be closer to $20-22M even with a GOR & at that number there isn't a willingness for several legacy schools to sign a GOR. So number erodes further. I think that is the delay. There is no set of agreement principles that satisfy all of the players at an acceptable media value. And without some firm knowledge of conference members, the media value could vary wildly based upon unknowns that SDSU can't control or even quantify a membership value upon. This is especially critical considering the MWC will withhold SDSU's revenue shares during it's last year in the MWC.
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(07-03-2023 10:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 09:54 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.

Pretty sure they would know what the new contract would be before invite came. Let’s look at numbers.
SDSU makes about 4 million in TV money from MWC and about 8 million total yearly.

Assuming the PAC TV contract comes in at 25 million, the total payout yearly would probably be 38-40 million. If SDSU gets 15 million tv and 7 million more from the Conference that’s 22 million, half what other make.

That would be 14 million more per year + you are in a P5 conference with Stanford and Cal.

That would still be a no brainer even if you pay MWC 25 million to leave.

That $25M guess assumes no one leaves the PAC. It might be closer to $20-22M even with a GOR & at that number there isn't a willingness for several legacy schools to sign a GOR. So number erodes further. I think that is the delay. There is no set of agreement principles that satisfy all of the players at an acceptable media value. And without some firm knowledge of conference members, the media value could vary wildly based upon unknowns that SDSU can't control or even quantify a membership value upon. This is especially critical considering the MWC will withhold SDSU's revenue shares during it's last year in the MWC.

Where are they going to go? Big12? If Zona and Colorado leave it won’t affect deal much, just like they won’t increase Big12 money.

The schools the PAC can’t lose are Oregon, Washington and Stanford those three are their anchors. Now you may think well Oregon and Washington are going to BigTen. But that isn’t happening now.

So more likely they sign a short contract that expires before BigTen and Big12 and sign the GOR for that short period.

We still have no clue what their money will be but I think 20-25 tv is likely and a I showed that’s still a better deal for SDSU.

I mean really you told any of our schools hey, we will give you 20 million total per year from conference and join a P5 even if more left or stay where you are at 8 million per year and it’s a no- brainer.

If the invite comes, which I think it will SDSU is gone, just like any of our schools would.
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(07-03-2023 10:30 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 10:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 09:54 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.

Pretty sure they would know what the new contract would be before invite came. Let’s look at numbers.
SDSU makes about 4 million in TV money from MWC and about 8 million total yearly.

Assuming the PAC TV contract comes in at 25 million, the total payout yearly would probably be 38-40 million. If SDSU gets 15 million tv and 7 million more from the Conference that’s 22 million, half what other make.

That would be 14 million more per year + you are in a P5 conference with Stanford and Cal.

That would still be a no brainer even if you pay MWC 25 million to leave.

That $25M guess assumes no one leaves the PAC. It might be closer to $20-22M even with a GOR & at that number there isn't a willingness for several legacy schools to sign a GOR. So number erodes further. I think that is the delay. There is no set of agreement principles that satisfy all of the players at an acceptable media value. And without some firm knowledge of conference members, the media value could vary wildly based upon unknowns that SDSU can't control or even quantify a membership value upon. This is especially critical considering the MWC will withhold SDSU's revenue shares during it's last year in the MWC.

Where are they going to go? Big12? If Zona and Colorado leave it won’t affect deal much, just like they won’t increase Big12 money.

The schools the PAC can’t lose are Oregon, Washington and Stanford those three are their anchors. Now you may think well Oregon and Washington are going to BigTen. But that isn’t happening now.

So more likely they sign a short contract that expires before BigTen and Big12 and sign the GOR for that short period.

We still have no clue what their money will be but I think 20-25 tv is likely and a I showed that’s still a better deal for SDSU.

I mean really you told any of our schools hey, we will give you 20 million total per year from conference and join a P5 even if more left or stay where you are at 8 million per year and it’s a no- brainer.

If the invite comes, which I think it will SDSU is gone, just like any of our schools would.

Agree, I think SDSU is gone eventually but not before they know the media contract value, how much it affects that value if any other PAC legacy schools leave, the GOR terms & length of the contract. And apparently even the current PAC schools don't know at this point.
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Almost all agree SDSU will go if invited. Plus.....there have been numerous, serious, talks between them and the PAC 12. It is inconceivable they both do not know what is up these days. These meetings were high level and often. I would think SDSU would have gone indy for a year or 2 until they got their invite..(which should be soon. Not in a yr or 2).
How can they just piss away 20 million dollars? REALLY----who can do that? That is what they are doing if they go to the PAC 12.
Would like to know how that decision went down in the board room. Are SDSU fans upset over this? Is there an actual worry on the part of SDSU that they wont get invited? If that were the case, that would be knowing something on the inside the public doesn't know.
I expect something big to happen this month.
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I was really trying to avoid this topic.
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There is a realignment board for such topics.
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(07-03-2023 04:03 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  There is a realignment board for such topics.

lol i love your mindset on this...
you okay any pro news regarding smu to the pac 12.. and anything that hints that smu isnt moving, you move the realignment board or off-topic
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(07-01-2023 02:48 PM)seurat92 Wrote:  Am surprised no one noticed SDSU's decision today to stay with the MWC. SDSU, who is slated to head to the PAC 12, had until June 30th to declare they would leave the conf in a yr. Thus....pay like 15 mill to exit the MWC. After that date the exit fee goes up to 34 mill.
Does that make sense? SDSU and the PAC 12 have been having talks all along and it is almost a foregone conclusion they will get an invite. So.....why waste 20 mill? Another scenario is SDSU may NOT be such a shoe in for the PAC 12. That would be a surprise.
What could be in the back of the BOT's heads that would make them throw away all that $$?

Or it may be they simply dont join until 2025.
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(07-03-2023 10:30 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 10:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 09:54 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.

Pretty sure they would know what the new contract would be before invite came. Let’s look at numbers.
SDSU makes about 4 million in TV money from MWC and about 8 million total yearly.

Assuming the PAC TV contract comes in at 25 million, the total payout yearly would probably be 38-40 million. If SDSU gets 15 million tv and 7 million more from the Conference that’s 22 million, half what other make.

That would be 14 million more per year + you are in a P5 conference with Stanford and Cal.

That would still be a no brainer even if you pay MWC 25 million to leave.

That $25M guess assumes no one leaves the PAC. It might be closer to $20-22M even with a GOR & at that number there isn't a willingness for several legacy schools to sign a GOR. So number erodes further. I think that is the delay. There is no set of agreement principles that satisfy all of the players at an acceptable media value. And without some firm knowledge of conference members, the media value could vary wildly based upon unknowns that SDSU can't control or even quantify a membership value upon. This is especially critical considering the MWC will withhold SDSU's revenue shares during it's last year in the MWC.

Where are they going to go? Big12? If Zona and Colorado leave it won’t affect deal much, just like they won’t increase Big12 money.

The schools the PAC can’t lose are Oregon, Washington and Stanford those three are their anchors. Now you may think well Oregon and Washington are going to BigTen. But that isn’t happening now.

So more likely they sign a short contract that expires before BigTen and Big12 and sign the GOR for that short period.

We still have no clue what their money will be but I think 20-25 tv is likely and a I showed that’s still a better deal for SDSU.

I mean really you told any of our schools hey, we will give you 20 million total per year from conference and join a P5 even if more left or stay where you are at 8 million per year and it’s a no- brainer.

If the invite comes, which I think it will SDSU is gone, just like any of our schools would.

You never know. Realignment may be forced upon the Big10 if Washington and Oregon begin to cozy up to the BIG12.

The damn begins to crack if Colorado leaves, despite a decent media deal. As members leave, the media money disappears.

The BIG12 would secure quite the coup if the BIG10 sat out. Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and Arizona would be huge for that conference. It would put them on equal footing with the SEC and Big10 after losing UT and OU.
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(07-03-2023 04:45 PM)Ourland Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 10:30 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 10:23 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 09:54 AM)Cubanbull1 Wrote:  
(07-03-2023 07:22 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Let's say SDSU really does have an unofficial commitment from the PAC to be made official upon completion of the new PAC media deal. But actually that commitment comes with no guarantee of what the payout will be? And that payout will likely be a substantial discount to that paid the legacy schools. Should SDSU risk the obligation/restrictions of their exit fees not knowing how many years it will take to recover those forfeited revenues? And even worse what if there's no guarantee that some of the legacy schools won't bolt themselves in the near future, further threatening the PAC revenue stream?

That senario doesn't bode well for leaving the MWC - just too many unknowns for SDSU to forfeit even $16M much less double that amount. I think there will long be a PAC but I think it's makeup will over time be radically different with every member school that finds an out, taking it over the next few years.

Pretty sure they would know what the new contract would be before invite came. Let’s look at numbers.
SDSU makes about 4 million in TV money from MWC and about 8 million total yearly.

Assuming the PAC TV contract comes in at 25 million, the total payout yearly would probably be 38-40 million. If SDSU gets 15 million tv and 7 million more from the Conference that’s 22 million, half what other make.

That would be 14 million more per year + you are in a P5 conference with Stanford and Cal.

That would still be a no brainer even if you pay MWC 25 million to leave.

That $25M guess assumes no one leaves the PAC. It might be closer to $20-22M even with a GOR & at that number there isn't a willingness for several legacy schools to sign a GOR. So number erodes further. I think that is the delay. There is no set of agreement principles that satisfy all of the players at an acceptable media value. And without some firm knowledge of conference members, the media value could vary wildly based upon unknowns that SDSU can't control or even quantify a membership value upon. This is especially critical considering the MWC will withhold SDSU's revenue shares during it's last year in the MWC.

Where are they going to go? Big12? If Zona and Colorado leave it won’t affect deal much, just like they won’t increase Big12 money.

The schools the PAC can’t lose are Oregon, Washington and Stanford those three are their anchors. Now you may think well Oregon and Washington are going to BigTen. But that isn’t happening now.

So more likely they sign a short contract that expires before BigTen and Big12 and sign the GOR for that short period.

We still have no clue what their money will be but I think 20-25 tv is likely and a I showed that’s still a better deal for SDSU.

I mean really you told any of our schools hey, we will give you 20 million total per year from conference and join a P5 even if more left or stay where you are at 8 million per year and it’s a no- brainer.

If the invite comes, which I think it will SDSU is gone, just like any of our schools would.

You never know. Realignment may be forced upon the Big10 if Washington and Oregon begin to cozy up to the BIG12.

The damn begins to crack if Colorado leaves, despite a decent media deal. As members leave, the media money disappears.

The BIG12 would secure quite the coup if the BIG10 sat out. Oregon, Washington, Colorado, and Arizona would be huge for that conference. It would put them on equal footing with the SEC and Big10 after losing UT and OU.

Not going to happen Oregon and Washington aren’t going to Big12 they will wait for a BigTen invite. Colorado and Arizona are the only two you hear might go and they are both bottom dwellers in the PAC, their move wouldn’t change situation for either league.
Can’t wait for PAC to finish their media deal, so we can move on from all this nonsense.
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interesting twist in sdsu saga

MWC is somehow trying to seek retailation against the SDSU by withholding 6.6mil in distribution
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...stribution

long story short--- when sdsu asked for a 1month extension to see if it was possible...the MWC took that at letter on resignation that they are leaving.. despite SDSU clarifying in numerous letters that it wasnt a letter of resignation. the MWC refused the clarification and says it was a letter of resignation..
despite sdsu sending another letter on the 30th that they arent leaving...the mwc refuses to acknowledge it and says they own the league 17mil and leaving on the 24th, they are going to withhold sdsu's distribution this year (6.6m) as its 1st installment..

all of it is likely a ploy to punish sdsu for trying to leave.. mwc notes they will meet sometime this month to decide if they want to re-add sdsu.. (likely with some fiancial penalty)

pac12/mwc legitimately have horrendous leadership
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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
Translation: You’re out on July 1, 2024, and you owe us $17 million.

I can only imagine the ecstasy the other fanbases in MWC are going through tonight.
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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
(07-03-2023 08:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  interesting twist in sdsu saga

MWC is somehow trying to seek retailation against the SDSU by withholding 6.6mil in distribution
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...stribution

long story short--- when sdsu asked for a 1month extension to see if it was possible...the MWC took that at letter on resignation that they are leaving.. despite SDSU clarifying in numerous letters that it wasnt a letter of resignation. the MWC refused the clarification and says it was a letter of resignation..
despite sdsu sending another letter on the 30th that they arent leaving...the mwc refuses to acknowledge it and says they own the league 17mil and leaving on the 24th, they are going to withhold sdsu's distribution this year (6.6m) as its 1st installment..

all of it is likely a ploy to punish sdsu for trying to leave.. mwc notes they will meet sometime this month to decide if they want to re-add sdsu.. (likely with some fiancial penalty)

pac12/mwc legitimately have horrendous leadership
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That is almost too amazing for words.
MWC refuses to acknowledge SDSU decided to stay in the MWC.
They say they will figure it all out in a MWC meeting in mid-July.(giving SDSU that month they asked for a few weeks go)
Does anyone else think this is good for SDSU? If they are, as it stands now---the way the MWC says, they will have to pay 15/16 mill to exit The only prob with that, if, it is a prob is that SDSU has to say they are leaving the conf. But...LOL....they already said they would stay...but...again...the MWC wont accept that.

Do you realize how stupid that is as far as the MWC goes?
Now, THEY are pissing away 20 mill.
If SDSU stays, they will now have to pay 34 mill to the MWC when they leave.
The MWC, if I read this correctly, is telling SDSU, they owe 15/16 mill to them for already leaving, from a non sequitur statement about asking for an extra month to decide. The MWC is shunning lots of $$ that will most likley come their way when SDSU goes PAC 12.
Now.....I wonder what went on behind closed MWC ,doors that had them come to this conclusion.
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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
(07-03-2023 08:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  interesting twist in sdsu saga

MWC is somehow trying to seek retailation against the SDSU by withholding 6.6mil in distribution
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...stribution

long story short--- when sdsu asked for a 1month extension to see if it was possible...the MWC took that at letter on resignation that they are leaving.. despite SDSU clarifying in numerous letters that it wasnt a letter of resignation. the MWC refused the clarification and says it was a letter of resignation..
despite sdsu sending another letter on the 30th that they arent leaving...the mwc refuses to acknowledge it and says they own the league 17mil and leaving on the 24th, they are going to withhold sdsu's distribution this year (6.6m) as its 1st installment..

all of it is likely a ploy to punish sdsu for trying to leave.. mwc notes they will meet sometime this month to decide if they want to re-add sdsu.. (likely with some fiancial penalty)

pac12/mwc legitimately have horrendous leadership

If you ask me, it's unprofessional on her behalf. She could have simply stated 'no' to the request and moved on. It's childish.
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RE: Totally ignored by board and has big repercussions. SDSU.
(07-03-2023 08:27 PM)pesik Wrote:  interesting twist in sdsu saga

MWC is somehow trying to seek retailation against the SDSU by withholding 6.6mil in distribution
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/spo...stribution

long story short--- when sdsu asked for a 1month extension to see if it was possible...the MWC took that at letter on resignation that they are leaving.. despite SDSU clarifying in numerous letters that it wasnt a letter of resignation. the MWC refused the clarification and says it was a letter of resignation..
despite sdsu sending another letter on the 30th that they arent leaving...the mwc refuses to acknowledge it and says they own the league 17mil and leaving on the 24th, they are going to withhold sdsu's distribution this year (6.6m) as its 1st installment..

all of it is likely a ploy to punish sdsu for trying to leave.. mwc notes they will meet sometime this month to decide if they want to re-add sdsu.. (likely with some fiancial penalty)

pac12/mwc legitimately have horrendous leadership

This is a cover for both. By the time the league meets July 17. Basically they are giving SDSU until then to get PAC offer and leave for 17 million. I bet by then the PAC gets them in
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