Quote:But even if ACC presidents approve this new plan in the weeks ahead, UM’s athletic director Dan Radavokich said implementation won’t happen this fall.

It’s “not going to happen for the ‘23 season,” he said. “It’s going to be the ‘24 season” because that’s the year the playoff expands from four to 12 teams.

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(05-22-2023 03:54 PM)green Wrote:  

Quote:But even if ACC presidents approve this new plan in the weeks ahead, UM’s athletic director Dan Radavokich said implementation won’t happen this fall.

It’s “not going to happen for the ‘23 season,” he said. “It’s going to be the ‘24 season” because that’s the year the playoff expands from four to 12 teams.

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I’m surprised it wouid even happen that quick.

https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status...4027400222

EARN YOUR KEEP

So it will start in the 2024 football season or the 24-25 basketball season (2025 football)?

(05-24-2023 12:21 PM)green Wrote:  

Step in right direction

I'll be that guy: Still won't mean anything if someone wants to leave

29-30% of ACC distributions come from Football and Basketball Bowls and Tournaments.

For the 21 FY that would be $170 M to split up.

64 BB
106 FB

Lets say half of each is equally distributed.

That leaves 32 M for BB and 53 M for FB.

How about

35% for the number one
15% % each for the two and three
7.5 % for 4, 5 and 6
5% for 7

Below that - nuthin'

Using the past 5 football seasons as a running averages

Clemson would have drawn 80 Million or an averages $16 m a year
Pitt would have drawn 34 M or 3.2 a year
Clemson and Pitt are the only two programs to rank in the "top 7" so to speak for five years.

NC State would have drawn 20 M or an average of 4 M per year.
UNC and Miami would have drawn 16 M or 3.2 M per year.
Louisville would have drawn $14.5 M or $2.9 m per year.

An even distribution of the football bowl money is 7.57 M. If only half is used for a bonus everyone starts at $3.8 M a year.

So when that is plugged in -

1. Clemson $19.8 m per year
2. Pitt $10.6 M per year
3. NC State 7.8 M per year
4. UNC, WF, and Miami 7 M per year (notice they actually lose a tish)
7. Louisville 6.7 M (mostly held harmless)
8. UVa and Syracuse $6.2 M - a million dollar annual hit
10. BC 5.6 M a year - a two million annual hit
11. Duke and FSU - these two together in football? $5.4 M
13. GT and VT - $4.6 M a three million annual hit.

When you run the same kind of table for basketball, UVa, Duke, UNC, FSU, and Miami will make some money and Pitt, GT, and BC are solidly dinged.

Going back to tv ratings and this table or a similar one...
https://twitter.com/TJAltimore/status/15...78118?s=20

I wonder if they paid each equally a base amount for the tv deal...then at end of each year pay bonuses to those generating larger ratings than the others.

Would this bonus structure for tv ratings plus "keep what you kill $" would that get the programs that care the most alot closer to SEC/B10...within competitive shouting distance anyways...

(05-25-2023 06:51 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Going back to tv ratings and this table or a similar one...
https://twitter.com/TJAltimore/status/15...78118?s=20

I wonder if they paid each equally a base amount for the tv deal...then at end of each year pay bonuses to those generating larger ratings than the others.

Would this bonus structure for tv ratings plus "keep what you kill $" would that get the programs that care the most alot closer to SEC/B10...within competitive shouting distance anyways...

The problem with basing it on TV ratings is that the network you're on is just as big a factor as your own performance (maybe even your brand). Schools which are always on ACCN or ESPNU wouldn't stand a chance against those frequently on ABC or ESPN.

(05-25-2023 09:22 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 06:51 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Going back to tv ratings and this table or a similar one...
https://twitter.com/TJAltimore/status/15...78118?s=20

I wonder if they paid each equally a base amount for the tv deal...then at end of each year pay bonuses to those generating larger ratings than the others.

Would this bonus structure for tv ratings plus "keep what you kill $" would that get the programs that care the most alot closer to SEC/B10...within competitive shouting distance anyways...

The problem with basing it on TV ratings is that the network you're on is just as big a factor as your own performance (maybe even your brand). Schools which are always on ACCN or ESPNU wouldn't stand a chance against those frequently on ABC or ESPN.

This is in part why performance based is the best/most fair way of unequal revenue distributing.

(05-25-2023 06:51 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Going back to tv ratings and this table or a similar one...
https://twitter.com/TJAltimore/status/15...78118?s=20

I wonder if they paid each equally a base amount for the tv deal...then at end of each year pay bonuses to those generating larger ratings than the others.

Would this bonus structure for tv ratings plus "keep what you kill $" would that get the programs that care the most alot closer to SEC/B10...within competitive shouting distance anyways...

Thanks for sharing. I see that SU gets pretty solid ratings for a program that some folks are always trying to jettison out of the ACC in their conference realignment scenarios.

(05-25-2023 12:27 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 06:51 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Going back to tv ratings and this table or a similar one...
https://twitter.com/TJAltimore/status/15...78118?s=20

I wonder if they paid each equally a base amount for the tv deal...then at end of each year pay bonuses to those generating larger ratings than the others.

Would this bonus structure for tv ratings plus "keep what you kill $" would that get the programs that care the most alot closer to SEC/B10...within competitive shouting distance anyways...

Thanks for sharing. I see that SU gets pretty solid ratings for a program that some folks are always trying to jettison out of the ACC in their conference realignment scenarios.

That’s the “yankees bad” crowd who wish the ACC stayed at 8 and who fawn over the ACCT of the 70s.

(05-25-2023 09:22 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-25-2023 06:51 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  Going back to tv ratings and this table or a similar one...
https://twitter.com/TJAltimore/status/15...78118?s=20

I wonder if they paid each equally a base amount for the tv deal...then at end of each year pay bonuses to those generating larger ratings than the others.

Would this bonus structure for tv ratings plus "keep what you kill $" would that get the programs that care the most alot closer to SEC/B10...within competitive shouting distance anyways...

The problem with basing it on TV ratings is that the network you're on is just as big a factor as your own performance (maybe even your brand). Schools which are always on ACCN or ESPNU wouldn't stand a chance against those frequently on ABC or ESPN.

Winning and losing solves a good bit of that....Take UL basketball last year, we were relegated down to ACCN or worse for more games than usual by the time conference season came around.....And in reverse, during our good years in football we were boosted into primetime spots/channels They've got the system in place to help reward you if you're in the midst of a good season...

If my basketball team wants back in the primetime lime light, have to win games, attendance back up to normal, etc, and ESPN will reward us.

Dgrace welcome to my world

(05-26-2023 08:23 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Dgrace welcome to my world

Basketball ... "Not great Bob"

Another year of that mess, and we're going to apologize to the rest of the world for a 6 month bourbon shortage.....because we'll be keeping it all for ourselves...

Won't mean much in a few years if ESPN doesn't fix the albatross of a contract.

(05-26-2023 08:37 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(05-26-2023 08:23 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Dgrace welcome to my world

Basketball ... "Not great Bob"

Another year of that mess, and we're going to apologize to the rest of the world for a 6 month bourbon shortage.....because we'll be keeping it all for ourselves...

I feel like all the good will Leonard Hamilton built up was torpedoed last year. I wonder how long it take to rebuild again?