(02-28-2023 08:21 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(02-28-2023 08:00 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(02-27-2023 09:19 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Using the guesstimated tv distribution of $616m/15 = $41.1m per team. If FSU got their value at 15% ACC revenue (as claimed), they get $616m x 0.15 = 92.4m. So if you think about it, giving FSU $70m starting off would be a bargain, the $2m yearly escalators should keep pace with the SEC.

According to some, FSU and Clemson combined are worth about 25% of the conference value. $616 x 0.25 = $154m

I’ve also heard FSU, Clemson and Miami are roughly worth 33% of the conference value. $616m x 0.33 = $203.28m

If the above is true, everybody else’s average worth is approximately 5.58, $616 x 0.0558 = $34.37. It’s really not too far off from what everybody is making now.

Yeah, not sure some of us are going to just casually accept "falling into the rest of" group.... Some of us match or do better than Miami in tv numbers and attendance in 2 main sports.

Danny…give it up.
Louisville will never be a full partner in The ACC.

UL not receiving the same check as FSU?

(02-28-2023 12:24 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  

(02-28-2023 08:21 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(02-28-2023 08:00 AM)dgrace4cards Wrote:  

(02-27-2023 09:19 PM)Garrettabc Wrote:  Using the guesstimated tv distribution of $616m/15 = $41.1m per team. If FSU got their value at 15% ACC revenue (as claimed), they get $616m x 0.15 = 92.4m. So if you think about it, giving FSU $70m starting off would be a bargain, the $2m yearly escalators should keep pace with the SEC.

According to some, FSU and Clemson combined are worth about 25% of the conference value. $616 x 0.25 = $154m

I’ve also heard FSU, Clemson and Miami are roughly worth 33% of the conference value. $616m x 0.33 = $203.28m

If the above is true, everybody else’s average worth is approximately 5.58, $616 x 0.0558 = $34.37. It’s really not too far off from what everybody is making now.

Yeah, not sure some of us are going to just casually accept "falling into the rest of" group.... Some of us match or do better than Miami in tv numbers and attendance in 2 main sports.

Danny…give it up.
Louisville will never be a full partner in The ACC.

UL not receiving the same check as FSU?

I didn't say that....

I would put Tier 1 deserving revenue: FSU, Clem (and honestly thats just because of 1 decade of football success), and probably UNC
Tier 2: UL, Mia, VTech, GTech
Tier 3: UVA, Cuse, NC St, Pitt
Tier 4 (Carp) Duke, BC, Wake

What we know for sure:

The media revenue for UVA: $28.5M
ACCN revenue for GT: $9M

Scenario 1:
Let's assume the payout from both ACCN and non ACCN component grows at historical 4.1%

2021-2022 $28.50
2022-2023 $29.67
2023-2024 $30.88
2024-2025 $32.15
2025-2026 $33.47
2026-2027 $34.84
2027-2028 $36.27
2028-2029 $37.76
2029-2030 $39.31
2030-2031 $40.92
Six Year Average 25/26-30/31 $37.09
seven year average 23/24-29/30 $34.95

Scenario 2:
Let's assume the payout from non ACCN grows at 4.1% and ACCN grows at 10%

2021-2022 $28.50
2022-2023 $30.20
2023-2024 $32.02
2024-2025 $33.98
2025-2026 $36.08
2026-2027 $38.33
2027-2028 $40.76
2028-2029 $43.
2029-2030 $46.19
2030-2031 $49.22
Six Year Average 25/26-30/31 $42.32
seven year average 23/24-29/30 $38.68

You see the scenario 2 is better but not that different from the scenario 1.

Now for comparison:

The NB12 is reported to earn $31.7M on average for six year 25/26-30/31 while ACC schools are getting $37M or $42.3M.
The B1G is reported to earn $71.4M on average for seven year 23/24-29/30 while ACC schools are getting $35M or $38.7M.

I have to say 1) the ACC is still better than the NB12 but 2) the B1G is in a different league.

(02-26-2023 09:49 PM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(02-13-2023 12:18 PM)random asian guy Wrote:  For comparison,

2020-2021
SEC: $833M for 14 members
BIG: $678.8M for 14 members
ACC: $578.3M for 15 members
B12: $356M for 10 members
P12: $343.5M for 12 mebers

2021-2022
SEC: $802M for 14 members
BIG: ???
ACC: ???
B12: $426M for 10 members
P12: ???

I think the $600M would be a floor for the ACC. Likely somewhere around $650M.

2020-2021
SEC: $833M for 14 members
BIG: $678.8M for 14 members
ACC: $578.3M for 15 members
B12: $356M for 10 members
P12: $343.5M for 12 mebers

2021-2022
SEC: $802M for 14 members
BIG: ???
ACC: 616M for 14 members
B12: $426M for 10 members
P12: ???

My 616M was pretty close...1M shy of 617M