Lol…lib silence…

(01-09-2023 10:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  Lol…lib silence…

commie tommie doesn't punch the clock until ~6 a.m., CST ... he'll figure out how the left will spin this one ~8ish...

'nole will come with some pandering bs in an attempt to keep his supposed seesaw 'balanced'

the rest are fk'd...

regardless, it'll be swept under another libtard rug ... these evil mothertruckers don't give two shites...

There should absolutely be a strong investigation of this.

One differentiator that seems to be in play is that Biden personnel seemingly reported the breach themselves. And from reports, have seemingly cooperated with what investigation is in place.

If Biden obstructed on the same level as Trump apparently has done so, there should be no difference in the treatment thereof.

Giggles.

Muh Nukleer secrets…



Y’all figured this out yet?





Suckers

Democracy is dying! Lulz

(01-09-2023 10:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  Lol…lib silence…

Talking points haven't been distributed yet. NPC's are waiting to hear what they think about this.

I guess the "Special Investigator" of Trump can be dropped now. Both cases are dead.

(01-09-2023 11:55 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  There should absolutely be a strong investigation of this.

One differentiator that seems to be in play is that Biden personnel seemingly reported the breach themselves. And from reports, have seemingly cooperated with what investigation is in place.

If Biden obstructed on the same level as Trump apparently has done so, there should be no difference in the treatment thereof.

We also just don't have enough information yet. Who took the documents there?, who left them there?, etc.

And by all means, search any place you like...just do it through the courts as was done with trump. Although since this was reported to the NA and the documents were immediately returned, there's likely no need for a subpoena...at least at this point.

If Biden or anyone else broke any laws or didn't follow proper procedures, by all means, they need held accountable.

In the mean time, a trump-appointed guy is heading the investigation.

Biden didn't get that office until 2018. He was just a citizen.

(01-10-2023 07:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 11:55 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  There should absolutely be a strong investigation of this.

One differentiator that seems to be in play is that Biden personnel seemingly reported the breach themselves. And from reports, have seemingly cooperated with what investigation is in place.

If Biden obstructed on the same level as Trump apparently has done so, there should be no difference in the treatment thereof.

We also just don't have enough information yet. Who took the documents there?, who left them there?, etc.

And by all means, search any place you like...just do it through the courts as was done with trump. Although since this was reported to the NA and the documents were immediately returned, there's likely no need for a subpoena...at least at this point.

If Biden or anyone else broke any laws or didn't follow proper procedures, by all means, they need held accountable.

In the mean time, a trump-appointed guy is heading the investigation.

Are you familiar with the phrase "The best defense is a good offense"?

Nice goodwill move of self reporting: See we are telling on ourselves so if we find more things like this, you can rest assured we will report them.... Wink Wink


Obstruction or not, a law broken like this is a law broken - no?


I could give a rats arse about the theatre on either side of this. The DOJ had better make sure that Biden does not have any more than just the self disclosed.

BE CONSISTENT. I don't even care what that ends up being as long as it is reasonably similar in response.

(01-09-2023 06:39 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  What you wanna bet we are going see some hypocrisy around here on this one?

Not from me, if he broke the law he should be held accountable... and by the standards that the average American would be held. We know that won't happen, unfortunately.

All of this and Trump's stuff will quietly vanish. Already accomplished their goal there.

(01-10-2023 09:11 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  All of this and Trump's stuff will quietly vanish. Already accomplished their goal there.

I really hadn't heard much about it since October/November-ish... Weird...

So it’s been leaked what Trump had at his Mar-a-Lago home. When will it be leaked what Biden had? When will we see the pictures of the folders?
Biden also of course was not president. So he had these documents obviously illegally.
Now that the house is lost to the Republicans, is it time to start getting rid of Biden before the avalanche of investigations begin?

Without knowing the particulars, including why the documents we're there, why they were classified, what information was in those documents, and the level of classification... There does seem to be one significant difference between Trump and Biden here. Trump resisted efforts by the national archives to retrieve the documents and in fact claim they belong to him. Biden's lawyers revealed the discovery of those documents and took measures to return them.

(01-10-2023 08:01 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 07:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 11:55 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  There should absolutely be a strong investigation of this.

One differentiator that seems to be in play is that Biden personnel seemingly reported the breach themselves. And from reports, have seemingly cooperated with what investigation is in place.

If Biden obstructed on the same level as Trump apparently has done so, there should be no difference in the treatment thereof.

We also just don't have enough information yet. Who took the documents there?, who left them there?, etc.

And by all means, search any place you like...just do it through the courts as was done with trump. Although since this was reported to the NA and the documents were immediately returned, there's likely no need for a subpoena...at least at this point.

If Biden or anyone else broke any laws or didn't follow proper procedures, by all means, they need held accountable.

In the mean time, a trump-appointed guy is heading the investigation.

Are you familiar with the phrase "The best defense is a good offense"?

Nice goodwill move of self reporting: See we are telling on ourselves so if we find more things like this, you can rest assured we will report them.... Wink Wink


Obstruction or not, a law broken like this is a law broken - no?


I could give a rats arse about the theatre on either side of this. The DOJ had better make sure that Biden does not have any more than just the self disclosed.

BE CONSISTENT. I don't even care what that ends up being as long as it is reasonably similar in response.

The issue of the level of charging, if at all, is addressed in DOJ guidelines. It basically says, on the issue of charging the crime of keeping documents that are subject to national defense secrets, the decision to charge, and the level of charge, is affected by the level of cooperation by the party.

Trump blew off subpoenas, had his attorney tell a falsehood when finally turning over a small portion of the documents, resisted every effort to allow a search of the 'document bunker', and generally obstructed the effort at every turn to get the documents.

Biden's staff seems to have self-reported, and there is no indication of obstruction of follow up or continued looks into the matter. If you are aware that Biden's staff has obstructed this in a similar manner, please do tell.

So, from the perspective of charging, or obtaining a warrant, there do seem to be some not so minor differences.

If Biden and his staff obstruct in the same manner, by all means move against them in the same manner.

If the quantity of items of appropriate documents are at question, by all means move against them in the same manner.

(01-10-2023 09:28 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 08:01 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(01-10-2023 07:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-09-2023 11:55 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  There should absolutely be a strong investigation of this.

One differentiator that seems to be in play is that Biden personnel seemingly reported the breach themselves. And from reports, have seemingly cooperated with what investigation is in place.

If Biden obstructed on the same level as Trump apparently has done so, there should be no difference in the treatment thereof.

We also just don't have enough information yet. Who took the documents there?, who left them there?, etc.

And by all means, search any place you like...just do it through the courts as was done with trump. Although since this was reported to the NA and the documents were immediately returned, there's likely no need for a subpoena...at least at this point.

If Biden or anyone else broke any laws or didn't follow proper procedures, by all means, they need held accountable.

In the mean time, a trump-appointed guy is heading the investigation.

Are you familiar with the phrase "The best defense is a good offense"?

Nice goodwill move of self reporting: See we are telling on ourselves so if we find more things like this, you can rest assured we will report them.... Wink Wink


Obstruction or not, a law broken like this is a law broken - no?


I could give a rats arse about the theatre on either side of this. The DOJ had better make sure that Biden does not have any more than just the self disclosed.

BE CONSISTENT. I don't even care what that ends up being as long as it is reasonably similar in response.

The issue of the level of charging, if at all, is addressed in DOJ guidelines. It basically says, on the issue of charging the crime of keeping documents that are subject to national defense secrets, the decision to charge, and the level of charge, is affected by the level of cooperation by the party.

Trump blew off subpoenas, had his attorney tell a falsehood when finally turning over a small portion of the documents, resisted every effort to allow a search of the 'document bunker', and generally obstructed the effort at every turn to get the documents.

Biden's staff seems to have self-reported, and there is no indication of obstruction of follow up or continued looks into the matter. If you are aware that Biden's staff has obstructed this in a similar manner, please do tell.

So, from the perspective of charging, or obtaining a warrant, there do seem to be some not so minor differences.

This. A lot of what got Trump in trouble is how he reacted after the national archives requested the return of their documents.

Doubt that Jill's underwear drawer will be searched.

(01-09-2023 10:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  Lol…lib silence…

Lol you guys are so desperate for some red meat