Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
The Mouse cutting ESPN?
Author Message
Golden Jedi Knight Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,891
Joined: Jan 2004
Reputation: 218
I Root For: UCF
Location:
Post: #21
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-27-2022 04:29 PM)AlwaysSunny Wrote:  
(12-23-2022 07:52 PM)Golden Jedi Knight Wrote:  I'm annoyed that Disney+ keeps putting woke references into several of their newer programs. Sometimes, they seem to be more subtle about it, but the far left political messaging is there. They need to knock it off with their phony virtue signaling.

Can you explain what these "woke" references are? Because usually when people use that word it's just a way of saying something else without actually saying it.

For one thing, I don't think most people want to see a reference to gay and lesbian couples in so many shows and movies, particularly in those geared for young children such as the "Lightyear" movie or the "Big Hero Six" show where Baymax meets a man buying tampons for himself in a store. If you've seen the video of the shareholder meeting when one of the Disney execs openly said she wants to push a "gay agenda," (her words, not mine) then you know what's been pushed by Disney, and if I know the company as well as I think I do (I was a Cast Member years ago), they may be cutting back on the wokeness now but will increase the push again whenever they feel the time is right. Never mind that a wide diversity of people are members of religions such as Christianity, Judaism, and Islam that don't agree with the left's position on issues like marriage, abortion, and other topics. Not even all atheists, gay or lesbian or bisexual people, and other groups agree with the left on all this. The left does crap to manipulate more people, particularly younger ones who are more impressionable, into joining their political side.

You can call me names and hate me for saying all this if you want, I don't care. A society that brushes aside the concept of a nuclear family of having a mom and a dad at home teaching kids values that will help them become contributing members of society, insists that we live under an intersectional system in which how you get treated depends on your skin color/sexual preference/gender more than on your merit, and demands, not asks, but demands that everyone celebrate Pride Month or whatever other dates they want to add to what is basically a left-wing liturgical calendar . . . oh, and make sure you use the right pronouns no matter how devoid of any sense of reality they are . . . and try to eliminate any sort of debate about it is a dying society.

I understand people don't like talking politics on a sports board or other places, but as long as institutions are having players wear BLM shirts or make DEI announcements in pre-game (like what happened at UCF home football games this season shortly before kickoff) or whatever, then politics in sports are unavoidable. The word "politics" refers to the public; it's more than just about which politicians you like best. You can't dodge talking about controversial subjects affecting your community all the time. Having said that, I think we should tell these institutions to stop pushing radical political views and go back to figuring out what unifies sports fans, movie fans, etc. instead of what divides them.

Does this answer your question, AlwaysSunny?
(This post was last modified: 12-28-2022 10:10 PM by Golden Jedi Knight.)
12-28-2022 10:08 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Helicopter Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 429
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 68
I Root For: UC
Location:
Post: #22
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
I'm long Disney as long as they stay away from the knucklehead stuff they should dominate streaming. My prediction is they buoy their struggling streaming service for a few more flat years then buyout Netflix, Warner Brothers or merge with Sony. Worst case scenario they drop streaming and license their IP which (like Sony) is a cash cow.

Disney is a $150 billion dollar company with most of their valuation related to IP and physical assets.

The only companies that could theoretically compete with them in streaming is Amazon, Apple and Microsoft and they have an uphill battle regarding content which might not be worth it to detract from their core businesses.
12-29-2022 12:39 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Pony94 Online
Moderator
*

Posts: 25,696
Joined: Apr 2004
Reputation: 1184
I Root For: SMU
Location: Bee Cave, TX
Post: #23
The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-29-2022 12:39 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  I'm long Disney as long as they stay away from the knucklehead stuff they should dominate streaming. My prediction is they buoy their struggling streaming service for a few more flat years then buyout Netflix, Warner Brothers or merge with Sony. Worst case scenario they drop streaming and license their IP which (like Sony) is a cash cow.

Disney is a $150 billion dollar company with most of their valuation related to IP and physical assets.

The only companies that could theoretically compete with them in streaming is Amazon, Apple and Microsoft and they have an uphill battle regarding content which might not be worth it to detract from their core businesses.


Listening to an analyst call right now, begging Apple to stop spending money on streaming TV. “Basically pissing $6 billion away each year”
12-29-2022 12:46 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Helicopter Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 429
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 68
I Root For: UC
Location:
Post: #24
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-29-2022 12:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(12-29-2022 12:39 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  I'm long Disney as long as they stay away from the knucklehead stuff they should dominate streaming. My prediction is they buoy their struggling streaming service for a few more flat years then buyout Netflix, Warner Brothers or merge with Sony. Worst case scenario they drop streaming and license their IP which (like Sony) is a cash cow.

Disney is a $150 billion dollar company with most of their valuation related to IP and physical assets.

The only companies that could theoretically compete with them in streaming is Amazon, Apple and Microsoft and they have an uphill battle regarding content which might not be worth it to detract from their core businesses.


Listening to an analyst call right now, begging Apple to stop spending money on streaming TV. “Basically pissing $6 billion away each year”

My fear is they listen to these analysts.
12-29-2022 01:36 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
TodgeRodge Online
All American
*

Posts: 4,938
Joined: Jun 2010
Reputation: 264
I Root For: Todge
Location: Westlake
Post: #25
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-29-2022 12:39 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  I'm long Disney as long as they stay away from the knucklehead stuff they should dominate streaming. My prediction is they buoy their struggling streaming service for a few more flat years then buyout Netflix, Warner Brothers or merge with Sony. Worst case scenario they drop streaming and license their IP which (like Sony) is a cash cow.

Disney is a $150 billion dollar company with most of their valuation related to IP and physical assets.

The only companies that could theoretically compete with them in streaming is Amazon, Apple and Microsoft and they have an uphill battle regarding content which might not be worth it to detract from their core businesses.

this makes no sense

they already own 67% of HULU and are about to have the other 33% "put" on them unless they can work a deal with comcrap

Netflix is valued currently at $130 billion so there is no chance that Disney could swallow that

Sony is worth $96 billion and most of the company would make no sense to merge with a company like Disney and I do not see Sony looking to break things up or Japanese management wanting anything to do with Disney management

I doubt that Discovery Warner Brothers would survive a merger with Disney on anti trust concerns even if they wanted to do a deal
12-29-2022 02:09 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ghostofclt! Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,448
Joined: Oct 2018
Reputation: 7474
I Root For: Charlotte
Location: n/a
Post: #26
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-29-2022 12:46 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(12-29-2022 12:39 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  I'm long Disney as long as they stay away from the knucklehead stuff they should dominate streaming. My prediction is they buoy their struggling streaming service for a few more flat years then buyout Netflix, Warner Brothers or merge with Sony. Worst case scenario they drop streaming and license their IP which (like Sony) is a cash cow.

Disney is a $150 billion dollar company with most of their valuation related to IP and physical assets.

The only companies that could theoretically compete with them in streaming is Amazon, Apple and Microsoft and they have an uphill battle regarding content which might not be worth it to detract from their core businesses.


Listening to an analyst call right now, begging Apple to stop spending money on streaming TV. “Basically pissing $6 billion away each year”

clt’s hot taek

YTTV becomes your live tv option
Netflix, hbo max, peacock become premium options
12-30-2022 12:34 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Helicopter Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 429
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 68
I Root For: UC
Location:
Post: #27
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-29-2022 02:09 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(12-29-2022 12:39 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  I'm long Disney as long as they stay away from the knucklehead stuff they should dominate streaming. My prediction is they buoy their struggling streaming service for a few more flat years then buyout Netflix, Warner Brothers or merge with Sony. Worst case scenario they drop streaming and license their IP which (like Sony) is a cash cow.

Disney is a $150 billion dollar company with most of their valuation related to IP and physical assets.

The only companies that could theoretically compete with them in streaming is Amazon, Apple and Microsoft and they have an uphill battle regarding content which might not be worth it to detract from their core businesses.

this makes no sense

they already own 67% of HULU and are about to have the other 33% "put" on them unless they can work a deal with comcrap

Netflix is valued currently at $130 billion so there is no chance that Disney could swallow that

Sony is worth $96 billion and most of the company would make no sense to merge with a company like Disney and I do not see Sony looking to break things up or Japanese management wanting anything to do with Disney management

I doubt that Discovery Warner Brothers would survive a merger with Disney on anti trust concerns even if they wanted to do a deal

Netflix is dead. Once subscribers trend in the opposite direction it's all over. Only thing lasting is IP. Netflix will be worth 1/10th of what it is today in a few years.
12-30-2022 11:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tiger1983 Offline
BBA
*

Posts: 35,435
Joined: Apr 2006
Reputation: 2072
I Root For: Tigers - GTG!
Location: The enemy’s lair

DonatorsDonatorsDonators
Post: #28
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
The struggling business model may have an impact on sports media deals.

One way to increase profitability is decreasing cost.
12-30-2022 02:34 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Helicopter Offline
2nd String
*

Posts: 429
Joined: Feb 2019
Reputation: 68
I Root For: UC
Location:
Post: #29
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-30-2022 02:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The struggling business model may have an impact on sports media deals.

One way to increase profitability is decreasing cost.

I read something fascinating about Netflix and HBO decision models recently. Apparently, big budget ("prestige series") shows aren't worth the risk. Conversely, low budget chick flick shlock, think Emily in Paris and the slew of feel good christmas movies make bank.

As for sports. Their value is intrinsically tied to their "live" nature. One of if not the last possible successful ad delivery systems. That's why I'm long live streaming models like Twitch, etc. Advertisers are discovering this so time will tell.
12-30-2022 02:46 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ghostofclt! Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,448
Joined: Oct 2018
Reputation: 7474
I Root For: Charlotte
Location: n/a
Post: #30
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-30-2022 02:46 PM)Helicopter Wrote:  
(12-30-2022 02:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The struggling business model may have an impact on sports media deals.

One way to increase profitability is decreasing cost.

I read something fascinating about Netflix and HBO decision models recently. Apparently, big budget ("prestige series") shows aren't worth the risk. Conversely, low budget chick flick shlock, think Emily in Paris and the slew of feel good christmas movies make bank.

As for sports. Their value is intrinsically tied to their "live" nature. One of if not the last possible successful ad delivery systems. That's why I'm long live streaming models like Twitch, etc. Advertisers are discovering this so time will tell.

clt says we need more in the sharknado series
12-30-2022 03:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Nugget49er Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,386
Joined: May 2012
Reputation: 1102
I Root For: Charlotte 49ers
Location: CLT
Post: #31
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-30-2022 02:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  One way to increase profitability is decreasing cost.

That Macro Econ course really paid off!
12-30-2022 04:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ghostofclt! Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,448
Joined: Oct 2018
Reputation: 7474
I Root For: Charlotte
Location: n/a
Post: #32
RE: The Mouse cutting ESPN?
(12-30-2022 04:45 PM)Nugget49er Wrote:  
(12-30-2022 02:34 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  One way to increase profitability is decreasing cost.

That Macro Econ course really paid off!

clt says forget about unt to decrease cost
12-30-2022 06:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.